TV: Scientists warning of mass die-off along California coast — Official: Seafloor littered with dead fish, washing up “as far as I could see” — Toxin has spread all up and down West Coast — Experts: “Very, very unusual… Really extraordinary” (VIDEO)

Published: June 2nd, 2015 at 11:59 pm ET


KSBW, May 29, 2015 (emphasis added): Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary: Mass die-off could happen — “We are beginning with continuing coverage of that algae bloom in the Monterey Bay. Scientists say they’re seeing the highest levels of red tide in more than a decade, and they’re worried it will have grave impacts on marine life… [It] spreads all up and down the West Coast. Researchers in Santa Cruz have already recorded a mass die-off of anchovies and they expected more species could follow.”

KSBW, May 29, 2015: Scientists with the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary are predicting a mass die-off on the Central Coast… Up and down the West Coast, a large algal bloom of Pseudo-nitzschia is growing rapidly.

Chris Scholin, Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute (MBARI), May 28, 2015: Very Toxic Algal Bloom in Monterey Bay — I wanted to let you know we have been following a very big bloom of Pseudo-nitzschia over the past couple of weeks here in the bay, and the amount of associated domoic acid is really extraordinary… Yesterday I noticed anchovies washing up on the beach in front of MBARI as far as I could see. There’s also lines of fish scales (anchovy?) marking the high tide line… One of the staff went snorkeling off the beach here, and saw the seafloor littered with anchovies… keep an eye out for seizuring sealions, sick birds, maybe sick otters… We think this is a very large event… Don’t eat shellfish or forage fish from MB — very nasty right now!!!

KSBW, May 29, 2015: “New tonight… researchers say a large algae bloom has taken over the Monterey Bay“… Jim Birch, MBARI: “We’re seeing these really high domoic acid levels in both locations, which is very, very unusual“… “Scientists with MBARI say the toxins from the algae bloom are going to have a chain reaction on marine animals, and they’ve already seen more dead seabirds on Central Coast beaches… It has started to really grow in the last few days.

KSBW, May 29, 2015: Raphael Kudela, a researcher at [UCSC] said the bloom… is being found from Washington to Santa Barbara… reports of dead seabirds are already coming in.

Monterey Herald, May 28, 2015: A mysterious neurotoxin… returned with a vengeance… “This is an unusual one,” said Raphael Kudela… “We haven’t seen a bloom this big in 15 years.”… why the toxin periodically blooms in Monterey Bay is still a marine mystery… scientists are getting closer to pinning down the reason for the blooms, with human impacts among the range of possibilities… Domoic acid is also suspected in a recent spate of bird deaths.

UC Santa Cruz, June 2, 2015: The toxin was first detected in early May, and by the end of the month researchers had detected some of the highest concentrations of domoic acid ever observed in Monterey Bay. “It’s a pretty massive bloom. The domoic acid levels are extremely high right now… the event is occurring as far north as Washington state. So it appears this will be one of the most toxic and spatially largest events we’ve had in at least a decade,” said Raphael Kudela, [UCSC] professor of ocean sciences.

MBARI, Jun 1, 2015: Researchers measured some of the highest concentrations of harmful algae and their toxin ever observed in Monterey Bay… During a normal [bloom] 1,000 nanograms per liter would be considered high… [It’s] reached 10 to 30 times this level. On May 27, 2015, very high levels… were found in dead anchovies… The researchers do not know if the anchovies died because of domoic acid poisoning.

Watch: KSBW’s broadcast | San Diego 6 News broadcast

Published: June 2nd, 2015 at 11:59 pm ET


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348 comments to TV: Scientists warning of mass die-off along California coast — Official: Seafloor littered with dead fish, washing up “as far as I could see” — Toxin has spread all up and down West Coast — Experts: “Very, very unusual… Really extraordinary” (VIDEO)

  • irhologram

    Jade Helm or gas remediation?
    Video Report: "A ten-day US Army urban military training exercise has begun in Flint, Michigan with explosions rocking neighborhoods and scaring residents who had no idea what was actually happening.
    "With less than three hours between a city press release and the beginning of the exercise, residents were left in the dark about the urban military training until the last possible moment. Most had no idea what was happening as their homes shook from the force of the simulated explosions.
    “It was like a big huge explosion, it shook my whole house, it shook the ground.”
    Follow up…
    ""On Wednesday, military officials and Flint leaders held a media availability, but Lorenz (Flint spokesperson) later called TV5 and said the officials from the army didn’t wanted their faces shown during our broadcast. The concern: terrorists may try to find them and harm them.""
    (Am I reading this correctly? The army is hiding their faces from concerned citizens of Flint?)
    "Flint Police also explained the reasoning behind the delay in notification on Tuesday.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Jade Helm 15? Thought that was supposed to be only in Southwestern U.S. States.

      But makes you wonder, eh?

      In violation of Posse Comitatus?

      Do we even have that protection any longer?

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        From Wikipedia (some have argued it is unconstitutional, but don't the citizens need some protection)?

        "This article is about the Posse Comitatus Act in the United States. For other uses of posse comitatus, see Posse comitatus.
        Posse Comitatus Act Great Seal of the United States
        Other short titles
        Knott Amendment
        Enacted by the 45th United States Congress
        Effective June 18, 1878
        Statutes at Large 20 Stat. 152
        U.S.C. sections created 18 U.S.C. § 1385
        Legislative history

        Passed the House on May 18, 1878 (130–117)
        Passed the Senate on June 7, 1878 (29–21) with amendment
        House agreed to Senate amendment on June 15, 1878 ()
        Signed into law by President Rutherford B. Hayes on
        June 18, 1878

        Major amendments
        1956, 1981

        The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878 by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using its military personnel to act as domestic law enforcement personnel. It was passed as an amendment to an army appropriation bill following the end of Reconstruction, and was subsequently updated in 1956 and 1981."

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        When it hits the fan, and it's going to hit soon, martial law is going to be preferable to the alternative.

        Mankind has never seen, in all our history, what is about to take place.

        • jamesofthecommons

          Sorry, but martial law is not preferable to any situation, since martial law is within it's self a mortal danger, and one that could be rejected by the people,''as if that matters to the powers that be.'' The Fukishima meltdowns and subsequent results have hapend are hapining, and are matters beyond human choosing. A declaration of martial law whould be a choice for still more death, destruction and organized injustice. Trust me , you, would rather be free to take your own chances in the event of global catastrophy, then to have your survival left up to the military industrial complex, whom during martial law will be sure to sacrifice the needs of the common people for the benifit of the elite. You have to ask yourself if it is prudent to desire martial law, when doing so would be essentialy the surrendering of our lives and freedom to the very people responcible for Fukishima ?

  • irhologram

    "“Yesterday was a unique situation,” said Chief James Tolbert. “For whatever reason the timetable was moved up. And we put it out as soon as we could. We did put it out before there was any type of explosives.” (2 1/2 hours notice.)
    "Officials do say they will release more information following the exercises, but specifics will be kept secret so tactics aren’t passed to our enemies.
    (Is Flint Michigan the enemy? Who is the enemy?)
    "The U.S. Army is paying for the overtime incurred by the Flint Police Department."
    In the viral Washington Times report, an anonymous Department of Defense official revealed their belief that a DoD Directive outlining military support to civilian authorities was literally the latest step towards the President using military force against the American people.

    Read Directive No. 3025.18 – “Defense Support of Civil Authorities”…

    “This appears to be the latest step in the administration’s decision to use force within the United States against its citizens,” said the defense official.


  • irhologram

    This is a "What if?" Remember the unexplained booms heard REPEATEDLY for years now worldwide, as well as in Flint, MI? (Bearing in mind I don't think our nuclear peril exists in a vacuum.)
    Explained in 2013 by PD destruction of unexplored ordinance. "Johnson declined to say where, exactly, the range is, but said it's "far removed from anybody's home."" Resident:…"it's a weird sound, it's almost like thunder but it's not."
    Blogger Comment: C1TYofFL1NT
    Mar 30, 2013
    Flint Police Capt. T.P. Johnson: "declined to say where, exactly, the range is, but said it's far removed from anybody's home." #BravoSierra (East of Dort Highway / Less than 1/4 mile Coldwater isn't a residential neighborhood?) It's also across the street from a huge fuel storage facility. "About 15 of our employees attended an explosives safety training and demonstration on Feb. 26 that was conducted by the Flint Police Department," said TSA spokesman Jon Allen. Thanks for telling us about Feb. 26 Now how about you explain "November 9, 2011 at 9:33am" Any other "classified information" The Flint Police need to disclose?…


    • irhologram

      Sorry…unexploded ordinance. The point is Such an obvious cover story for something… Flint police are setting off ground shaking, huge explosions almost weekly, at a place they won't reveal, even though exploding old ordinance is already handled by the state of Michigan. There is no way there are that many Vietnam War grenades or any way that the city of Flint hosts that many meth labs!

      No one is disturbed by time and a half checks from the Army paid to Flint police department set off ground shaking, window rattling explosions in the city last Monday afternoon! God knows why?…with 2 1/2 hour notice? …and the Army backed out of a planned TV appearance, afraid to show their faces In reassurance to the people? …Because the "enemy" may be the audience in Flint?

      And you would rather take pot shots at me? What is wrong with this picture?

  • irhologram

    Comment LesPaulCustom
    Why would the local police need to establish a secret explosives disposal/practice range when the county and state level law enforcement agencies already have established sites for such purposes?
    Here is what I posted on FPO moments ago, "I must say, shocking…that no LE agency would disclose this secret bomb disposal site. I had been told by several people in the know, including city officials (incl PD) and members of the news media that the official explanation for the "loud, earth shattering, window shaking booms" was UNKNOWN. Now we are told otherwise. Municipalities, regardless of size, need to be transparent in INFORMING the public. Quite frankly, WHAT is the big secret? WHY a big secret? What could be gained by HIDING this needed law enforcement and/or military need (to disarm or detonate objects)? Why not just issue a press release saying "periodically COF PD, MSP, GCSD and/or ATF units will be detonating objects….YOU, the citizen, will be safe. This is a controlled detonation. Thank you , the Mayor…"
    "This mysterious sound is happening off and on for about a year. It usually happens in the afternoon, maybe ONCE EVERY FEW WEEKS. But, lately, it’s MORE FREQUENT." (Emphasis mine).


  • irhologram Read comments section for many "boom" locations.
    Comment Edward Longbrake
    Before the 1811-12 New Madrid Earthquakes, witnesses say that they had heard loud booms that sounded like cannon fire for several years. Then during the earthquakes, they heard them again, only louder. I have heard booms here in Pope county Arkansas, but I'm not sure what they are. I'm just hoping it isn't a precursor to another New Madrid event."
    Partial map of "booms," and includes 2013-2014 only.

    Questions: How is an explosion "simulated"? Will insurance pay for cracked foundations or is training for urban warfare excluded coverage as an "act of war?" Are the citizens who would like more information to be considered individually as terrorists? Who is the army referring to when using the collective term "enemy"? Is the Flint Police Department now directly employed by Northcom? Is the city PD being incentivized with time and a half overtime pay checks signed by the Dept. of the Army?

    Could what appear to be preparations for martial law be a response to environmental peril? What if the "booms" are gas plume explosions, more and more easily detonating in our radiation-ionized (read: electrified) atmosphere?…


  • AirSepTech AirSepTech

    If you want to be somebody after college, you may need to do a little bootlicking during or after. Much of government is this way.

    The level of weird, and fucking kooks, grows. Don't expect good results.

  • irhologram

    What if the Army started the drill early in order to mediate a sudden clear and present danger or at the least, an explosive opportunity?

    These are merely questions. When you shoot the messenger, there is a chilling affect. Fukushima does not exist in a vacuum. World events do not exist in a vacuum. In piecing together dots and puzzle parts, there may be connections we hadn't considered.

    For the unimaginative …1). The new phenomenon of atmospheric gas explosion + 2). Military/PD combined response for local populations … MAY = An unexpected use of martial law.

    (Plus, never let a good disaster go to waste, right? 1 + 2 = 4… The new math.)

  • irhologram

    AirSepTech. I count in this story Thirteen of your posts…I admit, shorter and without much thought or effort put into them…

    I'll stand by my six.

    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      Name the gas.
      State the concentration.
      Provide the level at which it is explosive.
      Describe any health affects.

      It is your credibility.

    • Nick

      To us all,

      I think it is fine that folks paste in extraneous bits on threads; often those posts are used to underscore some other point made earlier.

      Most of us seem to "get" the fact that our TATALly insane world is contributing to GMI.

      Each of us has to find within ourselves, the fortitude to carry on despite our rapidly diminishing future.

      As the world descends into spirals of ecosystemic and economic collapse(s) many of us on these boards just might be recognized as prescient, etc.

      The key is to avoid dumb personal attacks which serve no benefit except for "venting" .

      Even trolls have a purpose; for they highlight the absurdity of NOT MENTIONING THAT WHICH SHALT NOT be named 🙂 (human produced un-natural ionizing radiation).

      Our discussions benefit, every now and then, from inane inputs.

      Besides, I am convinced that TF2 has addled our very brain waves, so why not infect a thread with mischief, etc every now and then.

      Global Mass Insanity. Geee Am I?


      aloha, Nick

      • irhologram

        Nick, I DID factor in ionized ELECTRIFIED air, nuclear radiation contaminated air…how much more clearly could it be stated…as key component to this new phenomenon. It is not useful to survival to ignore new environmental pressures. And it isn't useful for my time to respond to your responses to someone else's respnse to me, when you ignore what is actually being discussed.

  • irhologram

    I have that prepared biut it would mean more wallpaper, and you can't be bothered to read what is before you.

    The question before YOU is, if it is t gas e p.oding in the air throughout the world, with LINKS clearly posted above…my question for YOU is what ISO the explanation, then? What universal explanation fits this universally experienced new phenomenon?

  • bowling

    multiple serial wallpapered links from u or anne and cut and pastes from u show no critical thinkings skills and are not cool.

    • irhologram

      FYI this was not cut and paste. It is original research, original thought, original questioning, and original juxtapositioning of events and their interpretation.

      It is rather complex for some to grasp, though, and requires more study than many have time for.

  • bowling

    if there were electrified ionized air everywhere
    we would all be seeing an aurrora beaurealis constantly. if it were caused by nuclear radiation we would all be dead.

  • irhologram

    Bowling, the discussions RE: conductivity and electrification of the atmosphere were before your time, here, I think. Parti B was the first ti bring it up I think…and BTW we ARE seeing more aurora borealis lately…even in Florida. I don't have time to research this for you right now…

  • bowling

    it doesnt matter whos time its before its scientifically impossible

    • irhologram

      March 19, 2015 at 12:20 pm Log in to Reply

      "Ionic attraction can be achieved if Barium, Aluminum salts, Cs137 Cs133 etc. in the air are electrostatically made to positive or negative, depending on the type of charge in the targeted atmosphere,and perhaps can attract the "ELEments" to ion 'bind' with them…."

      It would seem to me, as it has to others in this forum, that this "event" can happen with a sequence of natural occurrences and conditions…yet certainly there is the possibility of MANMADE influences…chef trails, HAARP, ET AL.

      See how the particles can become "charged"?

      I really wish you could bring yourself to actually discuss what may be exploding, what the military may be exploding in Flint, and why local PDs are on Army payroll.

      But that would mean you'd have to consider new ideas…and that seems very hard.


    Merry-Go-Round..Round And Round We Go..


  • rogerthat

    this sounds familiar:

    BOJ's Kuroda "Believes He Should Fly", Says Central Bankers Should Think Happy Thoughts

    … ''I trust that many of you are familiar with the story of Peter Pan, in which it says, "the moment you doubt whether you can fly, you cease forever to be able to do it." Yes, what we need is a positive attitude and conviction.'' …

  • Checkmate

    I'm not Yettish, but here is a good Jewish story I remember:

    One day there were 2 Jews that got in to a very heated argument… each proclaiming to be right. They argued for hour after hour. Along came another Jew and said why don't you have the Rabbi settle it and tell you which one of you are right. They stopped arguing and then agreed to let the Rabbi settle it- on who was right. So they both went to the Rabbi's office.
    The first guy went in and told the Rabbi his story. After the Rabbi thought for a minute, he said, "You are right." The first guy walked out of the office.
    The second guy went in and told the Rabbi his side of the story. The Rabbi thought for a minute and then said, "You are right." And the second guy walked out of the office. And both were happy knowing which one was right.

    I thought this kind of fitting for this forum…lol.

  • irhologram

    Checkmate. Well yes and no. Lol.

    See, what's going on here is censorship through bullying, effectively PREVENTING discussion of the idea…so…there has been no "argument." This hasn't been a disagreement because there has been no discussion, and that's the point of such tactics. Makes you wonder about folks who show up of late, kissing up with over the top solicitousness of one and all…who make DARNED sure the topic stays on the rails they choose.

    I'm willing to bet the many, diverse links I provided as well researched documentation have not even been opened by those "involved." It took me 6 hours today of work as a gift to this forum. And it took 1 minute of their time to shoot it down.

    • bowling

      irholo you must be lonely i am sorry. i am really concerned about my family on the w coast and friends japan. i wish fuku would go away. i heard peoples gardens in florida hadvstrange fruit and veges and some gal in the keys said there r a lot of two tailed lizards there. i hope u n ur family r ok

      • irhologram

        No two-tailed lizards, just cesium pink sunrise/sunsets. My orchids all look normal. I just think it's important to take note when the army pays the PD double time to work side by side, exploding stuff in a major U.S. City, and then hide from the townsfolk, when that city has been experiencing explosions of unknown origin since 2012 every other week or so.

        Call me crazy. Oh, that's right. You did.

        • bowling

          well its ok in arkansas. more flys now. more birds back. i have seen a lot of cardinals. it makes me feel a lot better. i dont know how the west coastbie. last time i was there last year not so many robins no house flys and a lot of crows.

  • rogerthatμsvh-detected-in-minamisoma-city/

    On 6/2/2015, a Japanese citizen posted his radiation test video on Youtube. The measurement was implemented on the same day.

    This person has been posting his measurement videos since 2 years ago.

    The location is Haramachi-ku, Minamisoma city (map attached below). The radiation level was 1.1 μSv/h at about 1m above the ground (estimated) but it jumps up to over 12 μSv/h on the ground.

    A city nursery school is only 200m from the measurement place. It is not known if the school is still open.

    According to the municipal government, 2 of 5 public nursery schools are still open and 5 of 8 public kindergartens are also still open.

    About 50,000 of 72,000 residents are still living in Minamisoma city. Financial institutions are in the normal operation.

    From the live monitoring data of NRA (Nuclear Regulation Authority), the radiation level is only 0.093 μSv/h (50cm from the ground) at a near elementary school, where is approx. 1km from the measuring point.

  • rogerthat

    THURSDAY, JUNE 4, 2015

    Fukusima Emissions Wax and Wane

    Emissions trending higher again, June 4 23:08

    …This morning I've been looking at recently publications on atmospheric dispersion from the Fukushima accident. None of the studies I've seen look at atmospheric levels after the first week or so in April and most studies don't look past March 30, 2011.

    In contrast, one study of cesium in streams that tracked data through the summer of 2013 found periodic upticks, which researchers attributed to precipitation, although their observed spikes happen to coincide with webcam watchers observations of events at the plant, especially during the summer of 2013.

    Sho Iwagami, Maki Tsujimura,Yuichi Onda, Masataka Nishino, Ryohei Konuma,
    Yutaka Abe, Manami Hada, Ishwar Pun, Aya Sakaguchi, Hiroaki Kondo,
    Masayoshi Yamamoto, Yoshiki Miyata, Yasuhito Igarashi (2015). Temporal changes in dissolved 137Cs concentrations in groundwater and stream water in Fukushima after the Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Plant accident. Journal of Environmental Radioactivity (2015) 1e8

  • rogerthat

    Battles against nuclear utility mega-money grabs intensify

    Beyond Nuclear is working with allies across the country to resist multi-billion dollar subsidies, at ratepayer expense, being sought by nuclear utility lobbyists in order to prop up dirty, dangerous, and uncompetitive atomic reactors.

    In IL, NEIS is leading the resistance against a $1.6 billion bailout; the 34-year-old grassroots group helped secure a big victory — for now — when the state legislature recessed till autumn, without enacting Exelon's wish list for five failing nukes.

    In the Mid-Atlantic, the PowerDC coalition is urging District of Columbia decision makers to block Exelon's takeover of Pepco, a merger that would undermine efficiency and renewables, and further subsidize the distant IL nukes, by gouging ratepayers 700 miles away.

    And in OH, Sierra Club and other allies have called for a rally and teach-in, to oppose FirstEnergy's attempted $3 billion ratepayer ripoff for its age-degraded Davis-Besse atomic reactor and Sammis coal burner. More.

  • rogerthat

    Coalition cites catastrophic risk of Palisades RPV fracture, appeals ASLB ruling to full NRC Commission

    Citing the risks of reactor pressure vessel (RPV) fracture, core meltdown, and catastrophic release of hazardous radioactivity at Entergy's Palisades atomic reactor in southwest Michigan, an environmental coalition (Beyond Nuclear, Don't Waste MI, MI Safe Energy Future, and Nuclear Energy Info. Service of IL) has appealed an Atomic Safety and Licensing Board (ASLB) panel's adverse ruling to the full U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC).

    The coalition's legal counsel, Toledo-based attorney Terry Lodge, filed the appeal on June 2nd.

    Arnie Gundersen, Chief Engineer at Fairewinds Associates, Inc. in Burlington, VT, serves as the coalition's expert witness on the risks of pressurized thermal shock (PTS) causing "brittle fracture" in the Palisades RPV. Gundersen and Fairewinds Energy Education have produced a short, humorous, educational video about PTS risks entitled "Nuclear Crack Down?"

    NRC has admitted on numerous occassions that Palisades has the worst neutron radiation embrittled RPV in the country. Palisades first surpassed embrittlement safety standards in 1981, just ten short years into its operations. …

  • rogerthat

    Introducing the Nuclear Fuel Cycle Cost Calculator

    By John Mecklin
    Editor, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.

  • rogerthat

    Four years on from nuclear disaster, Fukushima workers get own rest area via Reuters

  • rogerthat

    US pressed Canberra to play ball on nuclear waste via The Australian

    US government cables from 1978 reveal Washington had a long-term strategy to make Australia acknowledge its “responsibility” to accept nuclear waste.

    This pressure coincided with parliament’s approval on June 8 that year of a six-part ­regime to facilitate the mining, milling and exporting of uranium oxide.

    Senior US officials began raising the waste issue in June when the two countries began high-level talks over a nuclear co-operation agreement, cables posted on the WikiLeaks website reveal.

    A US embassy cable reported that Australia shared the US government’s views about uranium enrichment but “was unreceptive to questions about waste disposal in the Australia-Pacific area”.

    When in September that year the Mirror editorialised against Australia’s accepting nuclear waste, US embassy officials told the Department of Foreign Affairs Australia should expect the US to “nudge” it about this issue.

    The editorial was brought to the attention of the US embassy by Ron Walker, who headed the defence and nuclear division in the department. US officials bluntly told him Australia was essentially ignoring the problem of nuclear waste. “We replied by telling Walker he and other GOA (government of Australia) officials should assume that during the course of the next several decades there will inevitably be speculation about potential …

    • rogerthat

      sites for nuclear waste storage,” the US officials wrote in the cable.

      “We added that while we read GOA views ‘loud and clear’, the GOA should assume there will be continuing discussion about storage sites for nuclear wastes and in fact we would probably from time to time even go as far as to nudge the GOA about its responsibility in helping to find appropriate, safe and secure storage areas.”

      Continue reading at US pressed Canberra to play ball on nuclear waste

  • rogerthat

    Think ahead on nuclear waste: expert

    By Sean Lin / Staff reporter

    The international community has stopped the practice of shipping nuclear waste overseas for reprocessing, and state-run Taiwan Power Co’s (Taipower) plan to do so is just delaying nuclear waste management, French nuclear safety expert Yves Marignac said yesterday.

    Speaking at a news conference in Taipei, the director of French non-profit nuclear energy consultancy World Information Service on Energy (WISE-Paris) said that Taiwan’s spent fuel pools reaching capacity and Taipower’s plan to reprocess highly radioactive nuclear waste are two separate issues that should not be discussed in the same context.

    Taipower in February issued an online call for bids to solicit overseas contractors to reprocess about 1,200 bundles of spent fuel rods from the Jinshan and Guoshan nuclear power plants in New Taipei City, for which the company has requested a budget of NT$11.25 billion (US$362.9 million). …

    • rogerthat

      Taipower officials have said that the project is a “contingency plan” to resolve storage problems arising from the New Taipei City Government’s rejection of the company’s dry-cask storage project because of safety concerns.

      Marignac said it is wrong to consider nuclear waste reprocessing or any interim waste management options, as any nuclear waste management plan should be viewed from a long-term perspective, instead of seeking expedient, short-term solutions.

      He said that most countries that used to provide nuclear waste reprocessing, such as the UK and Russia, are either phasing out or have abandoned the technology.

      Furthermore, countries that used to ship nuclear waste abroad for reprocessing — such as Germany, Belgium, Italy, Japan and Switzerland — have abandoned the practice, he said.

      They ended the practice because 30 to 40 years after nuclear waste is reprocessed, they still have to deal with the remaining radioactive materials, such as plutonium, Marignac said.

      With only one nuclear reactor of a Dutch firm still relying on overseas nuclear waste reprocessing, he said that Taipower’s plan is one aimed at “raising the dead.”

      As for Taipower Department of Nuclear Back-end Management director Wu Tsai-ji’s (吳才基) comment that the overseas reprocessing plan was “experimental” and would involve only a small batch of spent fuel rods, Marignac said that the “experiment” would require at least 20 years before coming to any conclusions, …

      • rogerthat

        Sellafield nuclear waste storage safety limit relaxed following accident

        Amount of radioactive waste that can be kept in tanks allowed to breach legal limits to help cope with backlog caused by an accident in November 2013

        Dilapidated nuclear waste storage ponds at Sellafield, Cumbria. The nuclear storage limits are likely to be exceeded by up to 350 tonnes between April 2014 and July 2016. Photograph: Courtesy The Ecologist

        Rob Edwards
        Thursday 14 May 2015
        Safety limits on the storage of some of the world’s most dangerous nuclear wastes at Sellafield in Cumbria have been relaxed after an accident knocked out a treatment plant.

        The government’s safety watchdog, the Office for Nuclear Regulation (ONR), has permitted the private company that runs Sellafield to breach legal restrictions on the amount of hot, high-level radioactive waste that can be kept in tanks. The limits are likely to be exceeded by up to 350 tonnes between April 2014 and July 2016. …

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          And these supposed safety measures are?

          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            How many followers of that set, are going to believe it can happen?

            • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

              I suppose , I'm supposed to water down the message, for political correctness…

              • melting mermaid melting mermaid

                I personally saw Bernie rip the Nuclear industry a new asshole for about 30 minutes without a single notecard. At the only protest I've ever been to. That he's running for president elates me to no end. Even if he doesn't win he's going to force these issues front and center. He's a brave man. You should pay attention intead of screaming socialist. A little too much gladio and mockingbird in your childhood diet, I think.

                • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                  I'm going the long.
                  Installed socialism.. beyond Bernie.
                  Redistribution of assets, enforcement.
                  Those waiting to run with it.

                  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                    Boxer, and Markey long do we have to go before acknowledging their action as lip service?

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      "When he Democratic primary is over, another liberal voice can take on the challenge of contrasting the conservative agenda of Clinton. Jill Stein of the Green Party has some credibility to take on that role, though she lacks the experience of Sanders. Voting Sanders in a Democratic primary, then Stein in the general election, enables Democratic voters to push for reform in their own party without abandoning liberal principles."

                      Bernie Sanders Isn’t Socialist Enough For The Socialist Worker



                    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

                      I'm not a socialist or a capitalist. Not a Democrat or Republican. Not really a joiner at all. But I love me some Bernie Sanders.

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      The whole political process it about to completely overtake the description of the disaster known as Fukushima, if we let.
                      Stand my ground and proud of it.

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      Political parties are not principles, no more than consequentialism is teleological.

                    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

                      It's ok, heart. I still love you. I'm inordinately protective of Bernie. As you can see. You can talk bad about me. You can talk bad about my Mama. But Bernie being disparaged on Enenews just pisses me off. Who else anti-nuclear do we have. Hillary,Jeb. Lmao. Come on people. Here's our chance. Don't listen to the mainstream media. They don't want Bernie for OBVIOUS reasons.$$$$ I for one want my country back, from the black plague that has mired it in corruption and pollution. We know here where the Status quo (I hate that word now) will lead us, probably has already led us. We have to do something. If only to save our souls.

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      I thought I was doing my bit.
                      I think I am.
                      It should be a good out..

                  • melting mermaid melting mermaid

                    They're redistributing wealth right now heart, only it's going up instead of down. It's going to the one percent instead of to society. We pay taxes to get something in return, something has gone all wonky. A fool can see that. We've lost control of our democracy. There has been a silent coup and monied interests have taken over. We are entering a time of corporate feudalism if don't do something soon.

                  • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                    Quote Heart :

                    "..I'm going the long.."

                    Hi Heart.. i think you mean as last word "run" or "result" ?

                    I would LOVE to see a way for current humanity to make a straight jump in to perfection..
                    but i don't.. 🙁

                    (current humanity meaning for the majority of people to believe ken buesseler lying or something would still be an upgrade compared where they are now mentally)

                    It will still take many many small steps.. That's difficult to digest for those that can see further then tommorow , and feel the pressure , but it is like that..and i'm so sorry , i wish i could agree with you really..but i fail to see the benefit of critising them small steps, all of them..for their obvious lack of perfection..

                    I'm already happy if the direction of the next step increases the chance for humanity to make it to the next step..

                    If i'm wrong in my understanding where your coming from then i'm really lost..

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      Socialism is a big step ..not a little step.

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      PS. What some might call tunnel vision ..some might call 'single-mindedness.

                      ( Some of us need it.)

                    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

                      "Too expensive and produces waste that no one wants" how can you disagree with that, Rod?

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      Low blow…LOL.

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                      big and smal expression's comes (imo) from what is compared.. Even the world wars might turn out to be not so "biggies" compared to what humanity , if surviving at all , will have to reposition/reinvent itself be "longterm viable"..
                      A litle bit more outspoken to the left election shiver in a extreme coorporate fascist country like a small step in my view..but better then the opposite..

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      It's about being in real time.
                      If the candidate is not up to date with Fuku ..not about money, or safety ..but artificially produced nuclides X-containment.
                      How can I ( me, ya,) possibly consider voting for anyone?

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                      Can a american candidate win an election by saying he will eradicate nuclear or die trying sort of speak ? In A M E R I C A ?
                      Home of the pusherman..

                      Not before half the population is dead from it..and a link established in the minds of the survivors..

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                      If so..i'm all for it..

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      I don't know.
                      And I'm grateful not to be politician.
                      I don't have to tone the strength of my principles in order to get elected.

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                      Right now , a candidate like Sander's can make it possible to take some of the power out of the pro nuclear brainwashing..

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      That's good.
                      I'm just going to hang in the post- Fukushima bio-sphere event and wait.

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                      And considering the future's mass of collateral damage aka will increase.. a candidate like that (when in power aka elected ) will hopefully take less long to pull the nuclear plug totally..

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                      typo aka..dead citizen's..

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                      "I don't know.
                      And I'm grateful not to be politician.
                      I don't have to tone the strength of my principles in order to get elected."

                      Agree , i'm happy not to be a politician either..but i'm not going to position myself against those that try , when i can see some improvement.. and when i'm also against the only alternative of a revolution..

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      I understand, what you are saying.
                      How can I position myself against this person?
                      I'm a blogger ..that's all.
                      But someone seems to be poking at me.
                      It's not like my opinion matters.
                      I'm sure I'll pay attention when someone says "Post- Fukushima".

                      How many ways can I express healthy detachment?

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                      "It's not like my opinion matters"

                      That is not correct , in interaction everyones opinion matters , granted in various degree's..our whole evolution is based on opinion and mutual influencing of it..

                      ..and sometimes someones healthy detachement might not be so neutral.. when expressed or coded as opposition on first and second sight..

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      Everyone opinion matters on a base level.
                      But my opinion is miniscule to Mr. Sanders.

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                      In here..your opinion matters a lot..

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

             support a socialist agenda..
                      I don't.
                      What's the deal?

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      And ..DID jest. LOL..

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder


                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      It's OK and they will simply tax the ones sleeping in the corner so they can subsidize the very large boats moored to the pier in the bay..

                    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

                      I support this. I'm really to lazy and busy to label myself. But, if addressing income inequality that according to NASA might cause civilization to collapse is socialism. If fixing our infrastructure and providing a living wage, free health care, decent education, a social safety net, for say people whose child was in NICU for 3 months, like ours. If addressing the crimes of Wall Street, the NMIC, and any other industry that puts profits before people is Socialism, if addressing the crimes against liberty and justice that is inimical to the revolving door policies that has brought our once great country to it's knees, if putting the health of our biosphere before the profits of a handful of billionaires, then color me pink. I guess I'm a socialist. Although I mostly consider myself a mother and an enenewser.

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                      MM , i agree 100% on everything except being a mother..
                      I don't label myself either , i just have some old fashion morals before profit..that turn's out they "color me pink"..

                      But i can see further then the shortsighted perpetual fascist/communist swing that goes nowhere , both of them.. i want the good out of both world's and leave the rest behind..humanity suffered enough..
                      from both dictatorship's..and the joker behind it..

                      I think Sanders is more then oke compared to the other options..i hope he will work with Jill Stein..thanks for all the great links..

                    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

                      Because they're not socialist. They are a Democratic socialism like Bernie's. In fact I got to meet the ambassador of Norway, because Bernie brought him to talk to Vermonters. And they are doing great things, like divesting from fossil fuels.

                    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

                      Thanks did. I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I love Bernie. He really is good. I think he's so important I would literally jump in front of a bullet to save him. Much less beat a dead horse. He's my only living hero. When I grow up I want to be just like him, but I'm forty, so fat chance of that happening. He he.

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      Well, like I said.
                      I have to pass for now.

                      A. The conversation is young.


                      B. The conversation needs to be had.

                      It's one thing to be rolled by open deception.

                      But placing the mechanism into government that allows for even further involvement in government control in commodities.
                      Historically, this has been a failure.
                      This do to Human greed.
                      Then the mechanism remains, after the initial parties have been replaced.

                      Not that the fascists are not rolling it in via the TPP.

                      Two things.
                      When one follows socialist links ..they don't go to the US constitution and the Bills of Rights, they go to Marxist ideas.
                      And as a 'patriot' this concerns me.

                      And two my single-mindedness.. I'm going to describe Fukushima, as I think this is what I have to offer, more so than my political opinion.

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                      Thanks for the warning's Heart , don't think i give up on all my reservations yet..

                      It remains to be seen if Sanders can beat or render powerless the satanic forces behind the two-party monster..

                      Bush came at the peak of american stupidity to embrace corruption as way of life..
                      So he could do what he did..

                      Then the disgusted world needed some brains and morals and Obama came..timed perfectly..
                      I don't remember what it was i saw but i did not like his face when he returned from that special secret update meeting they all go tru with previous president bush behind closed doors after the election..
                      Neither did he..

                      It remains to be seen if Sanders is bigger then that.. but i think we have no choice but to try..prepare yourself for the worst if what he is up against turns out even bigger then we all can imaging..

                    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                      I should not have said "american stupidity" like that , sry , more like , at the maximum obtainable peak , the cumulated effect of decennia of propaganda , culture shaping (ayn rand for example) and education sabotaging..mixed with manipulation of peer pressure like patriotisme etc aka actively "dumbing down" the american public..
                      They where ready to swallow that douchebag without being able to resist to much..

                      Btw , is Sanders a skull and boner too ?

  • rogerthat

    GreenWorld, NIRS' blog, is at

    June 3, 2015

    New EIA analysis shows nukes don't help reduce carbon emissions under EPA's Clean Power Plan

    The Environmental Protection Agency has not yet released the final version of its Clean Power Plan (CPP), but reportedly has sent it to the White House for final review and the public release is expected in August.

    But the Department of Energy’s Energy Information Administration (EIA), which typically has vastly underestimated and under-projected the growth of renewables over the years, recently released projections of how much carbon emission reductions the EPA’s Clean Power Plan would produce, based on several different scenarios.

    And, as analyzed by Utility Dive, perhaps the most significant finding is that nuclear power does not help achieve greater carbon emission reductions.

    Even a scenario meant to encourage new nuclear power would have no effect on the reduction of carbon emissions (although it would have a large effect on the increase of radioactive emissions). So much for the nuclear industry’s pitch for nuclear power as a climate solution.

    Under that scenario, nuclear power would grow by about 20 Gigawatts, or about 18-20 large reactors, by 2040 (assuming the plan is extended from its current date of 2030). Under the baseline scenario of the draft CPP released last year, nuclear is actually expected to decrease by a few Gigawatts. Yet there is almost no difference…

  • melting mermaid melting mermaid

    Good morning Rogerthat. Got my coffee, Mazzy Star in the background. I'm ready for my morning Rogerthat schooling. I haven't even started, but I'm going to go ahead and say "WTF?" why,why,why?lol. I hope you have a good day. Thanks for everything.

  • rogerthat

    Jun 4, 2015

    Sepp Hasslberger: Nuclear Waste Piped Into Atlantic Ocean

    Sepp Hasslberger
    Not only is radioactive water from Fukushima poisoning the Pacific, they are doing it in the Atlantic ocean as well…

    Plutonium being pumped into Atlantic ocean through miles of underwater pipes — Nuclear waste left lying on beach…

    The dumping of nuclear waste in the sea was banned worldwide in 1993, yet the nuclear industry has come up with other ways. They no longer dump the barrels at sea; they build kilometers of underwater pipes through which the radioactive effluent now flows freely into the sea.

    One of these pipes is situated in Normandy [near] the French reprocessing plant in La Hague… The advantage for the nuclear industry? No more bad press… disposal via waste pipes remains hidden from the public eye, quite literally.

    Video and transcript.

  • rogerthat

    Mothers and residents protest inaction at a radioactive landfill in St. Louis County, Missouri. A dangerous underground fire burns next to radioactive waste from the Manhattan Project which successfully built the first working atomic weapons in WWII.
    Just Moms STL

  • rogerthat

    Three Kansas utilities sue DOE over uncollected nuclear waste at Wolf Creek

    Utilities say DOE has breached its duties under a 1982 federal law to take this waste

    By Barry Cassell

    Three utility companies operating the Wolf Creek nuclear plant in Kansas on May 28 sued the U.S. Department of Energy, asking for the agency to fulfill its promise to remove spent radioactive fuel from the facility.

    Kansas Gas & Electric, Kansas City Power & Light and Kansas Electric Power Cooperative, which provide power to consumers in Missouri and Kansas, told the U.S. Court of Federal Claims that they have collectively paid the DOE $224 million to remove spent nuclear fuel from the Wolf Creek Generating Station in Coffey County. But the fuel waste continues to sit at the site after years of futile efforts by DOE to ready the Yucca Mountain site in Nevada as a permanent nuclear waste repository. …

  • rogerthat

    Vietnam Has Nowhere To Put Its Nuclear Waste
    Tuesday, 02 June 2015 Written by Saigoneer.

    At the second Nuclear Regulations Conference that ended on May 22 in Da Lat, scientists said that the country must have clear regulations to dispose of nuclear waste before the reactors at the Ninh Thuan nuclear power plant, Vietnam’s first, become operational, reports VietnamNet.

    The meeting attracted over 400 local and international scientists and experts, including members of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), many of whom suggested that the State manage radioactive waste.

    Vietnam currently has two agencies that store this toxic material – the Radioactive Management Unit of the Da Lat Nuclear Research Institute and the Hanoi-based Centre of Radioactive Wastes Management. These organizations, however, do not accept external shipments, leaving those with such materials to dispose of it on their own.

    "If those outside units cannot make a deal with material provider countries to take back wastes after use, they will have no choice but to keep such wastes at their make-shift storage," said Nguyen Nu Hoai Vi, Director of the Nuclear Control Division of the Vietnam Agency for Radiation and Nuclear Safety. "As such storage is not specially designed to keep radioactive wastes for long, it poses a serious threat to national safety and security." …

    • rogerthat

      The construction of Vietnam’s first nuclear power plants have already been delayed five years due to safety concerns and legal issues. The country plans to build 8 nuclear power plants by 2030.

      While it’s great to see Vietnam addressing this major issue, no country in the world has figured out a long term solution to safely dispose of or store nuclear waste, making it the technologies Achilles’ heel.

      With a 250,000 year halflife, some countries have been forced to explore some wonky options including “firing nuclear waste into the sun, placing it in Antarctic ice sheets so it sinks by its own heat to the bedrock, or putting it under Earth's crust so it is sucked to the molten core,” according to The Guardian.

      Even the United States, with around 104 operating nuclear reactors, has faced major issues when it comes to storing its 71,862 tons of radioactive waste.

      Though the country spent over $38 billion on Yucca Mountain, its only nuclear waste facility, President Obama has been pushing for the site’s closure for years, citing concerns about the geological safety of the site and the challenges of transporting radioactive waste over long distances.

      Maybe we should just wait for a moon covered with solar panels?

  • melting mermaid melting mermaid

    Let the state(taxpayers)deal with it and their children and their children and their children and their children………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. …………………………………………………………………….

  • rogerthat

    South Australia as the world’s nuclear toilet – an economic disaster – theme for June 15
    Australia has the reputation of growing and exporting clean food and wine.

    South Australia is the home of very varied agriculture, and of fishing and wine industries. It is also a most interesting, historic, and beautiful tourist destination. These industries support the economy, and provide clean, safe, and proud jobs.

    All this will be impacted, perhaps ruined, by expanding nuclear facilities here. We should be closing our unprofitable uranium mines down, not expanding them in the distant hope of that “nuclear renaissance” that always remains a mirage.

    Even if there are few nuclear leaks, or accidents – nuclear facilities will degrade South Australia’s environment – and will destroy South Australia’s clean reputation. The plan to bring the whole nuclear chain, and the world’s nuclear wastes, to South Australia will do immeasurable damage to the State’s reputation, and to tourism and all those clean industries that at present have a fine future.

    South Australia’s agricultural and horticultural future is now very successfully working with renewable energy – another industry with a great future – provided that it is not stifled by the nuclear lobby.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    I think it is past time to demand from pro-nukers:

    A list of the benefits, with proofs, of meltdowns such as the one at Chernobyl, and the three at Fukushima.

    A statement acknowledging the destruction of the environment they have caused, are continuing to cause, and will cause in the future.

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