TV: “Truly unsettling” discovery at Fukushima… problem “far greater than previously thought” — Boss reveals 600 tons of fuel melted, can’t find it — Top Official: “Nobody really knows where fuel is”… We may never be able to get it and just leave wherever — “Uncontrollable fission” is continuing under site (VIDEO)

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ABC Australia, May 24, 2016 (emphasis added): [ABC's Mark Willacy] has been invited on a tour of [Fukushima Daiichi]… What Willacy discovers is truly unsettling… retrieving hundreds of tonnes of melted nuclear fuel turns out to be far greater than previously thought.

ABC Australia transcript excerpts, May 24, 2016:

  • Willacy: Tonight we go on a journey into the heart of this ongoing crisis… and we reveal the frightening enormity of the clean-up… and how dangerous it still is.
  • Gregory Jaczko, former Chairman of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission: This really is unchartered territory. Nobody really knows where the fuel is… There’s no playbook – they’re making this up as they go along.
  • Willacy: The man in charge of decontaminating and decommissioning the Fukushima plant, Naohiro Masuda. Has anything like this ever been attempted before?
  • Masuda: There has never been an accident at a nuclear plant like the one at Fukushima where three reactors had meltdowns. We are currently working on a timetable to decommission the reactors over the next 30 to 40 years.
  • Naoto Kan, Former Prime Minister: I think it will take longer… This is a major accident, which has never happened anywhere in the world… 40 years is an optimistic view.
  • Willacy: We are heading to the buildings housing the melted reactors… Tepco is worried about possible nuclear terrorism, and won’t allow us to film certain security sites.
  • Masuda: This is a job we’ve never done and there is no textbook.
  • Willacy: [At Reactor 3 there was an] explosion right after the nuclear fuel melted… What happened inside [Reactor 2] no-one really knows… [Reactor 1] is where probably the worst meltdown occurred. They don’t know where the nuclear fuel is.
  • Masuda: We haven’t actually seen where the melted fuel fell, so it’s important to find it as soon as possible.
  • Willacy: For the first time, Foreign Correspondent can reveal just how vast the amount of melted nuclear fuel is, the three molten blobs that lie somewhere deep within each of these buildings.
  • Masuda: It’s estimated that 200 tonnes of debris lies within each unit… 600 tonnes of melted debris fuel and a mixture of concrete and other metals are likely to be here.
  • Willacy: The most daunting task, one the nuclear industry has never faced, is getting the melted fuel out. TEPCO admits the technology it needs hasn’t been invented.
  • Jaczko: It may be possible that we’re never able to remove the fuel. You may just wind up having to leave it there and somehow entomb it as it is. I mean that’s certainly a possibility. There is no playbook, they’re making this up as they go along.
  • Kan: If all the reactors had had a meltdown, there was a risk that half or all of Japan could have been destroyed… the accident took us to the brink of destruction.
  • Jaczko: You have to now accept that in all nuclear power plants… there’s a chance you can have this kind of a very catastrophic accident… that’s the reality of nuclear power.

ABC Australia, May 24, 2016: Fukushima clean-up chief still hunting for 600 tonnes of melted radioactive fuel… [TEPCO] has revealed that 600 tonnes of reactor fuel melted during the disaster, and that the exact location of the highly radioactive blobs remains a mystery… [C]hief of decommissioning at Fukushima, Naohiro Masuda, said the company hoped to… begin removing it from 2021… “But unfortunately, we don’t know exactly where (the fuel) is” [said Masuda]. [Gregory Jaczko, Chairman of the US NRC] at the time of the meltdowns at Fukushima doubts the fuel can be retrieved… “Nobody really knows where the fuel is… It may be possible that we’re never able to remove the fuel. You may just have to wind up leaving it there and somehow entomb it as it is.”… For the first time, TEPCO has revealed just how much of the mostly uranium fuel melted down… [Masuda said] “about 600 tonnes of melted debris fuel and a mixture of concrete and other metals are likely to be there.”

RT, May 24, 2016: 600 tons of melted radioactive Fukushima fuel still not found, clean-up chief reveals… [The fuel] burnt through the respective reactor pressure vessels, concentrating somewhere on the lower levels of the station… fuel from Reactor 1 poured out completely… the exact location of the highly radioactive “runaway” fuel remains mystery for TEPCO. The absolutely uncontrollable fission of the melted nuclear fuel assemblies continue somewhere under the remains of the station… [TEPCO's] plan for Fukushima nuclear power plant implies a 30-40 year period… Yet experts doubt the present state of technology is sufficient to deal with the unprecedented technical task.

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Published: June 2nd, 2016 at 1:18 am ET
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845 comments to TV: “Truly unsettling” discovery at Fukushima… problem “far greater than previously thought” — Boss reveals 600 tons of fuel melted, can’t find it — Top Official: “Nobody really knows where fuel is”… We may never be able to get it and just leave wherever — “Uncontrollable fission” is continuing under site (VIDEO)

  • harv33021

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    • or-well or-well

      2 bit tout shilling for a known fraud.
      Eff yourself "Harv".


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    • harv you have been reported. Take your non sense elsewhere.

      You discredit this site


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      • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

        This off target here but just as important, the USA was taught so much by the Native Americans about how to survive the hard winters, how to grown crops & one the most important was HEMP, all the uses were not known back then but today Hemp is what could help clean up the planet of man's misuse of chemicals & nuclear power, I just hope the States will return to the wide spread use of Hemp that will start new industries, like replacing wood homes to homes made from Hemp, it has been going on in the UK with great results, plus they are fire proof, the need for AC & heat is way down, the total process was costly at 1st but with solar panels, new tech cost are coming way down, also the Hemp blocks are much stronger than blocks & bricks, the land is restored to the right PH levels & I don't how the process works but nuke particles are made inert & harmless, how I have not read the complete report & updates, but if these people are allowed to keep up with the work with scientist not on any governments payroll, it may become a huge job creator world wide.
        China is a case in point, their land is turning in to deserts fast every year so they have set out to buy resouces world wide, in the USA they own most of the hog market, soon if Obama has his way most of the USA will be owned by China.
        With Fukushima making land useless to grow foods for humans & animals, inside growing is moving fast in large cities, here is a link to read: http://www.metropolisfarmsusa.com/ Cont-


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    • GOM GOM

      Harv33021

      No one has to die from cancer.. for the most part. If advanced, natural/alternative treatment options may extend life. Unless your wealthy.

      I've known about Plasma Healing, cleansing, ect, for a long time due to my inner-childish fascination with celebrities.

      The 'higher self-connection' of Baramay is mostly lost here. A tragedy really. In terms of self-healing.
      Thanks for the list.


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    • Hey dickwad… What crap. Step one find a nice big bag of weed. Step two grind it up some. Step three get a fan, A rice cooker, And a jug of Isopropyl alcohol and a large coffee filter. Step four.. In a bucket throw all the bits of weed into the bucket, Dump in the iso and stir. Step five filter the mixture through the large coffee filter into the rice cooker. Step six. on a non flammable surface outside use the cooker to boil down the mix,use fan to blow the fumes of iso away, Add more to the weed mix and filter again. Continue to boil on low until it is thick. scrape it out and put it into jars. Place a gram or so on the back of your gums three times a day for a few months and you cancer will be having a bad day. Skin cancer rub it on the sores. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAyhQnBDE_I
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI

      One comment to tell you how to cure cancer Very simple and easy to do if you follow the video. this method is 1/10000 of common medical industrial complex death drugs like chemo and it's 100% non toxic. Cures a lot of other stuff too.

      Watch this too https://youtu.be/90fQss8OL9Q.

      it's your only hope to stay on top of the crap floating all over.

      Fire is bad. Know how to keep safe– Ventilate!

      Go with Gods cure and you will never regret it. http://biblehub.com/genesis/1-29.htm


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      • When ever someone says "Well Why would they contaminate themselves too…??" show them the ease of the RSO and tell them to think for a few moments. They know all about this plant and that's why it's so illegal. Be an outlaw JUST LIKE THEM and survive JUST LIKE THEM!


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  • Promises, promises

    “On October 21st we show you the flying car.”
    – M.T. Keshe, summer 2015

    Nuclear Powered Cars; Ford Nucleon, Atmos, Mystere, Studebaker Astro, Thorium Powered Concept Car, Keshe Foundation Promises Fusion Powered Or Free Energy Car
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2016/04/nuclear-powered-cars-ford-nucleon-atmos.html

    Just a wee bit harder to actually deliver, eh?


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Hawaii’s beloved beaches are covered in huge amounts of plastic, survey finds

    "The study, which was commissioned by the DLNR and the North Pacific Marine Science Organization, aimed to determine how much debris from the Tohoku earthquake and tsunami, which struck Japan in 2011 and is perhaps most famous for triggering the Fukushima nuclear disaster, was washing up on Hawaiian shores. Debris from the tsunami has turned up throughout the Pacific over the past few years, and the new survey was intended to serve as part of a wider effort to investigate the ecological effects of tsunamis."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/06/04/hawaiis-beloved-beaches-are-covered-in-huge-amounts-of-plastic-survey-finds/

    Tangible material ..but no radiation.
    Oh, come on…


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    • SS4U SS4U

      The "authorities" are insisting that, while they don't know the source of the massive debris landing on Hawaii's beaches, they are certain it's not from Fukushima.

      Seriously ? No satellite imagery ? Everyone's asleep on the job ?
      No testing the debris for radioactivity ? Seriously ?


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    • SS4U SS4U

      The "authorities" are insisting that, while they don't know the source of the massive debris landing on Hawaii's beaches, they are certain it's not from Fukushima.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Even the arrival of the tsunami garbage, was scoffed at..
    Now, here it is…


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    • DUD

      All high profile politicans and religious leaders of this world should be put in strict isolation and truly schooled (drilled) 12 hours a day about the real state of the planet and therefore humanity..and not released back in to power untill they really really get it..how the bio-sphere works , and how humanity is in the grip of an all overpowering deathwish and how those that thinks thats a good thing keep them there..

      Starting with all the make believes that are the building blocks of all things planet and bio-sphere like climate conferences etc

      If they fall back in previous attitude like lying and denial..next level.. 12/7 working in a closed garden that gets damaged with toxins , gmo's and vandalisme/deforestation forest fires too on a regular bases..more when their attitude is bad..this is where they get their food from..get it or perish like we all will if you continue being criminally insane and useless..


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        • DUD

          There need to be a set of new rules to be made from the ground up..not that halfcrooked carbontaxes etc..but simple..as of now..it is forbidden to develop new technollogys that build upon the old ways of polluting and exploiting..

          No more food selling in non-bio-degradable plastic bottles etc..find a new way or face trial as a warcriminal..to hell with "jaaaabs" and "economic growth"..we are gonne focus on longterm survival and living..not being suffocated whilest ratracing in pollution and taxed to death..and ultra richness has to go..

          There needs to be a global conference (maybe more then one ) solely focussing on where the ceiling on personal and corporate wealth should be put..and a global minimumwage at the same time.. this is to be done in the "Earth First" spirit..then humans..it is OUR problem that religion told us things that resulted in grave overpopulation..

          There has to be put a limit on birth's..to obey strictly during a few generations untill the planet can breath again.. hey..why not couple it on the oxigen level that is sinking in our air..or other environmental markers..

          But bottomline..there needs to be a law so clear and outspoken that it is a crime to invent and make money from things that hinder the planet from doing its thing or as of now..recovering from us..ever again..


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      • DUD

        DUD
        June 4, 2016 at 10:06 pm

        "..that are the building blocks of all things planet and bio-sphere like climate conferences etc.."

        Typo : of all things Political regarding planet and bio-sphere..


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      • Dud are you suggesting red pill indoctrinations?


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    How many times and ways can a person be heartbroken?


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  • irhologram

    Heads FREAKING UP!!

    I am shocked on my can! I've seen Bohemian Grove videos. I've researched The Georgia Guidestones. I studied the symbolism in Superbowl halftimes. I know in depth a plethora of details RE: 9/11, The Boston Bombings, The Aurora Shooting, Sandy Hook, the Paris Shootings, et al.

    BUT NEVER WOULD I HAVE BELIEVED what I can see with my very eyes in the opening ceremony of a tunnel June 1.

    I will not sleep well tonight…or if I do, it's to escape from knowing.

    I included the title of the videos in case the link won't work for you.

    Tunnel opening ceremony Part 1. https://youtu.be/WHt-5K0oxfo
    Switzerland Gotthard Illuminati Satanic Ritual June 1, 2016

    Tunnel opening ceremony Part 2. https://youtu.be/KFFlrUjjE1s
    Switzerland Gotthard Illuminati Satanic Ritual June 1, 2016 PT 2

    Tunnel ceremony dignitaries. https://youtu.be/qP_5NLiAn4M.
    World Leaders Attend Demonic Ritual At A Tunnel Ceremony? WTF!!

    "The completion of the project, which had been labeled “Switzerland’s construction of the century,” was marked by an unusual performance that is being called a satanic ritual in Switzerland and has the internet buzzing.

    The unbelievably strange Swiss ceremony was attended by a plethora of European leaders. Included among the guests were French President Francois Hollande, Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, and the President of Switzerland Johann Schneider-Ammann.

    Cont.


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  • irhologram

    The world leaders were treated to the first official journey through the tunnel. Then they were treated to a satanic celebration of the tunnel’s completion….

    …Overall, the ceremony that so many are now calling Switzerland’s satanic ritual cost almost $9 million and involved the 600 performing artists including dancers, actors and acrobats.

    The ceremony began with a bunch of miners in orange jump suits doing a zombie walk toward a facsimile of the tunnel’s entrance…

    …Then the miners were “sacrificed to the tunnel.”

    They re-emerged as “spirits,” dressed in nothing more than underwear and veils. That’s when things got really weird, and for some people became satanic. At this point, an actor dressed as a goat showed up in the midst of the performance and began “ritualistically consuming and mating with” the dancers…

    …the goat man (CLEARLY a baphamet) is resurrected and worshiped by the dancers; at this point, many of the dancers were attired in gender-bending clothes, as drifter and/or as “women of the night.”

    Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/3165856/satanic-ritual-in-switzerland-worlds-longest-tunnel-opens-with-bizarre-ceremony-video/#r1FlUsdcjRtZmzLR.99

    These people ARE PROUD OF THIS. It was broadcast LIVE! A theory is that this is more than a transportation tunnel. It's a DUMB. Speculation is that TPTB are clamoring for a seat at the underground table, and that's why they do to us what they are told.


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  • irhologram

    Some are also saying that time is short.

    By the expression on Angela Merkel's face, I'd say this may be true.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Methinks they bark up the wrong tree.
    But then how much closer to hell?

    La-la-la-la-la-la.

    Repost:

    Naughty Boy – La La La ft. Sam Smith
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O1_3zBUKM8


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    Seems the choreographer might have had a wee bit of "tunnel vision", shall we say.

    They might have played a youtube video to mark their "accomplishments" instead… and be better received…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF9E0Ne5MDs

    at least…a bridge over troubled waters or something…geesh.


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  • irhologram

    Hillbilly. Well, maybe not so off topic. Sofia Smallstorm illustrates these DUMBS are nucear powered and she says that's where decommissioned NPPs' reactors go…as well as brand new reactors that suddenly run out of money for build-out…but then…the already delivered reactors go…where? Never to be seen or heard about again.

    She believes our Cumberland Mountain tunnel is the same as this one in Switzerland…says the accounting fRE: expenditures for labor and materials are exceeded by what was spent by dozens of millions… And what IS accounted for is in categories that don't match tunnel specs….giving concrete examples,

    Eh? …What's that you say…how many TRILLION dollars are missing from the Pentagon?

    https://youtu.be/3r46Y25_NEo.
    The Deep State & Deep Underground Bases

    https://youtu.be/EzDbwyANEVU
    Dark Journalist: Catherine Austin Fitts – Dancing With the Breakaway Civilization

    But to see this demonic in-our-faces celebration…on land that historically linked to a gateway to the underworld…it's just too much. How could ANYONE miss the relevance!

    Obe. No, this is NOT a new religion. This ceremony also featured the Pope, Jesus, and Mary, and a transgender owl in diapers. For those of you who endlessly debate religion here… What would you rather? NWO Satanism or Christianity? Because it definately DOES appear to be an either/or.


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    • GOM GOM

      Irhologram

      When their project of total control is finalized, (and it is on the horizon) this information will be suppressed and we will be the last generation to know the truth. We will have invisible “rulers from above and below” running a totalitarian planet with a one world government, one world central bank and a one world religion.

      The 'need to communicate' with us is evidenced in everyday life. What dominates the 'media', entertainment, music..? Nothing. A vast void of mind-numbing nothingness.

      The perfect example of what can happen to Humans when all there hopes and dreams are slowly drained away from them.
      How odd that a childrens film should be so prophetic in performing its value.

      The Nothing [4 min]

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-5QTdC7hOo


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  • GOM GOM

    Since the time of Pericles, defenders of human freedom have promoted the virtues of open debate within society, and for the full freedom of citizens to investigate their government and world. Whether in a household, a classroom, or a nation, a free flow of critically examined and openly discussed ideas gives us our best chance for intellectual growth and personal achievement.

    There must be no barriers for freedom of inquiry,” wrote the man who led the Manhattan Project. “There is no place for dogma in science. The scientist is free, and must be free to ask any question, to doubt any assertion, to seek for any evidence, to correct any errors.”

    And yet, despite the wonders of the Web, our world is not one in which free inquiry is the rule. It is a world in which our reality is polished and tinted on a daily basis by global power interests, and in which much of what really goes on is classified.

    Consider. The Library of Congress adds roughly 60 million pages to its holdings each year, a huge cache of information for the public. However, also each year, the U.S. Government classifies nearly ten times that amount – an estimated 560 million pages of documents. For scholars engaged in political, historical, scientific, or any other archival work, the grim reality is that most of their government’s activities are secret.

    cont..


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    • GOM GOM

      The enormous volume of classified material means that most of the activities of the U.S. government (and we can assume most other governments and major entities) are impossible to verify one way or another. Because nearly all scientists and academicians are confined to public sources for their research, we end up with a version of reality that excludes the world of secrecy.

      Consider the following:

      In the first half, George Knapp was joined by author Joseph Farrell, who detailed his research into the possibility that a secret, breakaway civilization was formed by American elites following World War II. He explained that, after the war, the United States was faced with three formidable challenges: escaped Nazis bent on recreating their empire elsewhere, the Cold War, and the UFO phenomenon. In turn, Farrell surmised, a secret system was put into place to develop defenses against these dangers facing the country. He theorized that, in order to surreptitiously fund such a massive undertaking, the United States used the vast wealth that had been plundered by Japan during WWII to bankroll various projects. Farrell suggested that, over time, similar secret infrastructures were created by other technologically advanced countries such as England, Russia, and China.

      http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2014/03/16

      [scroll down for article & show]


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  • GOM GOM

    The Hadron Collider..[LHC] Portal to ???

    The town that the LHC complex is situated-Saint Genis Pouilly-was in Roman times called Apolliacum, the town and a temple being dedicated to Apollyon.

    APOLLYON. The Greek name, meaning Destroyer. Apollo," the Greek god of death and pestilence as well as of the sun.
    In Hebrew called Abaddon), also identified as the king of the demonic locusts.

    And, Why would anyone put a religious statue of a Hindu god at a place of science, the epitome of scientific enquiry?

    CERN: Opening the Abyss

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dDlSYl3J6c&sns=em

    ..nothing is of 'coincidence' & Japan was no 'accident'..


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  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    Excelon didn't get funding from the crooked Illinois unpassed budget…so 5,000 jobs will be lost and half the tax revenue for the small town of Clinton, Illinois will be lost from closing this plant because the govt isn't shelling out how much to keep this old reactor burning? Paid for by tax dollars from whom? These plants are asking for handouts from the people that pay them for electricity and pay the tax dollars to run them for what? More nuclear waste! That someone has to figure out how to deal with..permanently! Maybe they can subsidize half the tax revenue for the small towns effected and put all the 5,000 workers on paid leave! They can work on shutting them down! Problem solved! (almost)


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Paid leave? Isn't that what all government workers enjoy? :)


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  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    Paid to steal if yer high up enough!


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  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    From article choice words!
    NEWS
    Exelon to close 2 nuclear plants; still seeking subsidies
    A nuclear power plant in Illinois.

    A nuclear power plant in Illinois.
    Thursday, June 02, 2016 07:00PM
    SPRINGFIELD –
    Exelon Corp. said Thursday that it will shut two Illinois nuclear power plants after the legislature failed to approve a financial-support plan, but an email obtained by The Associated Press indicates the company is enlisting employees in an ongoing, full-steam lobbying effort.

    The Chicago-based power-provider announced it will shutter the Clinton Power Station in central Illinois on June 1, 2017, and the Quad Cities Generating Station in Cordova will close June 1, 2018.

    Exelon said it began the lengthy shutdown process because it can't count on legislation that would extend state subsidies to nuclear generators producing reliable, carbon-free electricity that will help Illinois meet federal requirements. Lawmakers adjourned their spring session Tuesday without taking any action on the financial-support plan.

    "Unfortunately, legislation was not passed, and now we are forced to retire the plants," Exelon CEO and President Chris Crane said in a statement. Together, the Quad Cities site, which began operation in 1973, and Clinton, which reached full power in fall 1987, employ 1,500.

    The two plants have lost a combined $800 million since 2009, according to Exelon, countering consumer groups' complaints of "bailout" with a theme of fairness in a…


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  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    fairness in a state where wind, solar and other energy sources that don't produce harmful greenhouse gases are rewarded with subsidies.

    Earlier Thursday, Crane's email to employees with the news, obtained by the AP, included a plea that workers call a listed telephone line and record a message for Gov. Bruce Rauner and lawmakers in favor of the legislation.

    The recorded greeting urges callers to tell lawmakers that "if they take action immediately, they may be able to stop the closures at the Clinton and Quad Cities plants and save your job."

    Exelon spokesman Paul Adams confirmed the closure decision is not irreversible, but released a statement saying that it would be possible "only in narrow circumstances, and as weeks pass, a reversal becomes more and more difficult."

    Experts disagree on whether shutting the plants would raise the price of electricity. Exelon points to a 2015 state report that found that closing them would pump regional wholesale energy prices up 47 percent. Dave Lundy, director of the BEST Coalition opposing the plan, said price spikes are unlikely because of the amount of electricity produced in Illinois and the high cost to send it through jammed transmission lines in the Quad Cities.

    The coalition claims the so-called Next Generation Energy plan would amount to an average $3 per-month rate hike for ratepayers and a $7.7 billion windfall for Exelon over 10 years. Exelon puts the increase to ra


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  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    increase to ratepayers at 25 cents a month in exchange for future power stability.

    Democratic Attorney General Lisa Madigan was unconvinced Thursday.

    "Unfortunately, a highly profitable company is choosing to close plants because it hasn't received a blank check to impose unfair and unnecessary rate hikes on Illinois consumers," Madigan said in a statement.

    But Sen. Donne Trotter, the Chicago Democrat sponsoring the bill, said it's an essential step to ensuring clean, reliable energy long into the future. While the curtain fell on the legislative session before the players could reach agreement, Trotter said progress had been made in recent weeks and he'll continue negotiating.


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  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    Unfortunately there are too many people running around with 'The Simpsons' idea of how nuclear plants run, and that they have no major role in our future," Trotter said. "Experts around the world agree nuclear is a big part. Our greenhouse gases didn't become a problem until they started ratcheting down the nuclear energy."

    Exelon's process began with notification to the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The closures must be approved by organizations that operate the Midwestern electric grid to ensure reliability is not jeopardized.

    If "The Simpson's" idea of how Nuclear plants run is that they are stupid crazy to build them in the first place then no, there are not too many people running around this way! "Running and "State Government" don't have anything in common, as nuclear plants shouldn't either! This crap is being decided on by Chicago politicians…nuff said! This is how things work! (or not)


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  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    You can drive past huge wind farms southwest of Chicago and half will be turned off! The newscast on WLS was focused on covering the jobs lost and the tax base lost from closing the plants. This is how the story is spun on live broadcast. It's putting it out their like you are for all these people losing their jobs so being anti-nuclear is bad for us! What a load of crap that gets shoveled on daily by the boob-tube! Nothing but moron fodder! May as well just watch the Simpsons! Very few people have a clue! If they were to read the article and understand what it says, well that's asking for a lot!


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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

    The Reopening Of Naraha Fukushima, What The Press Failed To Mention
    September 9th, 2015

    “…Soil samples in Naraha were found as high as:
    52500 bq/kg cesium 137 & 134 combined
    34790 bq/kg cesium 137 & 134 combined
    26480 bq/kg cesium 137 & 134 combined…”
    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=15023


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  • laconic93

    I was doing a little more research on the new study put out about finding 2200 Becquerel's of cesium in the soil in Hawaii. I wanted to find out how bad that is. And I found this link.

    Fukushima prefecture as a whole is highly contaminated, especially to the northwest of the NPP, with soil 137Cs concentrations above 1,000 Bq kg-1 throughout the east prefecture from our estimate (Fig. 3). Neighboring prefectures are less contaminated, but 137Cs concentrations there are still above 250 Bq kg-1 in most of the areas.

    http://www.pnas.org/content/108/49/19530.full

    And this.

    In a study published by the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, “Cesium-137 deposition and contamination of Japanese soils due to the Fukushima nuclear accident,” researchers examined levels of the radioactive isotope cesium-137 in soil collected in and around the Fukushima plant. (abstract, paper, movies here: http://www.pnas.org/content/108/49/19530.abstract) In the eastern part of Fukushima prefecture soil levels of cesium-137 exceeded 2,500 Becquerel per kilogram, which would leave food production in the area "severely impaired," according to the study

    http://www.santarosa.edu/~lwillia2/43/43hw13p2.pdf

    So HAWAII IS TOAST. Do not eat any food from Hawaii as it says above; food production is "SEVERLY IMPAIRED".

    Now we need to get soil measurements of the soil on the West Coast and Alaska.


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Great Brain Candy!

      Yes, toast! :(


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    • Great comment Laconic

      I was struck by that cesium report as well.

      In a 2003 video titled Nuclear Controversies by Vladimir Tchertkoff, Professor Yury Bandazhevsky (former director of the Medical Institute in Gomel) states that based on his research on children exposed to radiocesium from Chernobyl, “Over 50 Bq/kg of body weight lead to irreversible lesions in vital organs.”

      W. Tchertkoff (2008) Nuclear Controversies, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qqhm_ZrfhE&feature=relmfu, date accessed 9 August 2011.

      In a short summary of his work published in 2003, Bandazhevsky described high levels of Cesium-137 bio-accumulation in Chernobyl children’s heart and endocrine glands, particularly the thyroid gland, the adrenals, and the pancreas.

      He also found high levels in the thymus and the spleen. He concluded that higher levels of bio-accumulation were found in children than adults.

      Y. I. Bandazhevsky (2003) “Chronic Cs-137 Incorporation in Children’s Organs,” Swiss Medical Weekly, 133, 488–490, http://tchernobyl.verites.free.fr/sciences/smw-Bandazhevsky_chronicCs137.pdf, date accessed 7 June 2013.

      Cesium doesn't bio accumulate as much as Strontium-90, Strontium-89, and Americium.

      Where there is cesium, there is likely also to be other radioactive elements. Trace amounts can biomagnify up the food chain.


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        indeed, 70 bq/kg from K-40 produced no discernible disease, no multi generational genomic instability, but the same amount of radiation from cesium-137 caused irreversible heart damage and systemic morbidity in a few short years. Not because the Cesium bioaccumlated to greater amounts, these radiation levels are post accumulation.


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  • laconic93

    Correction That was 1200 Becquerel's found in Hawaii but as we all know that does not include Plutonium, Strontium, Uranium, Cobalt 60, Tritium and the rest of the Isotopes released from Fukushima. So you can multiply 1200 x 50 or more and you would be closer to the true measurements of contamination.


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    • theworldisalie theworldisalie

      Exactly, If you find the tracer, you find them all. The entire fission byproduct chain will be in that soil which means it is lethal.


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        counting becquerels is opens the door to misconception of danger. If you find forty becquerels of cesium you might find 1 becquerel of strontium and 400 becquerels of K-40. We CANT simply multiply the cesium by the numbers of fallout isotopes and come up with anything meaningful, just as we cant compare background radiation in the ocean and conclude the cesium is safe since its 1/1000 the level.


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        • I think counting becquerels matters if you know the radioisotope in question and understand bioaccumulation and biomagnification processes in the environment and chemical/radioactive processes in bodies.


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          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            true majia, but one more thing is required; the correct sievert per becquerel conversion. The one in use is off by hundreds if not thousands of times. Every count of becquerels is going to give the reader an intuitive sense of magnitude. But this could be off by many orders of magnitude. For example, if we see 10 bq/m3 of C137, there is probably between 1/20 and 1/40 that of strontium and very very little I-131. But the iodine was 10x more than the cesium in the first few days. Getting hit by a ton of ice that has since melted doesnt mean damage wasnt sustained! But lets do what all the scientists do; lets say that if C-137 is at 10 bq/m3 and if you add all the other becquerels of all existing fallout nuclides it adds up to 15 bq/m3 (just throwing out a number, but it must be in the ballpark). Now compare this to background K-40 at 12,000 bq/m3. Whats worse, fifteen becquerels of radiation, or twelve thousand becquerels of radiation? Im betting that 15 is worse, but how counter intuitive. How difficult to convince friends, colleagues and scientists! So invoke the bioaccumulation. Sure its possibly 10,000 x in plankton, but measurements show only 50x in animals if that, and probably the dead whales and sea lions have a level of cesium 'below concern' It turns out that becquerels are a particularly bad metric because toxicity per becquerel can vary thousands of times. Its like measuring a snake with a super rubber ruler that can stretch from a foot to a mile


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            • I believe I AGREE with you fully. You are saying that the particular chemical and radioactive features and biological pathways of an isotope are the biggest predictors of effects, are you not?

              I agree the sievert-becquerel conversion seems way off to me based on how the calculations were generated historically.

              Dose-models always seem really problematic when you actually look at how the data used in the tables were generated.

              Worse, the intervention models used by the FDA and EPA presume exposure to a single isotope at a time.


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              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

                majia, the radio is not 1 to 1,000, but 1 to 10,000,000 (ten million).

                “Highly-radioactive fission products such as Cesium-137 and Strontium-90 emit 10 to 20 million times more radiation per unit volume than does Potassium-40.”
                The Implications of The Massive Contamination of Japan With Radioactive Cesium
                Steven Starr
                Senior Scientist, Physicians for Social Responsibility
                Director, University of Missouri, Clinical Laboratory Science Program
                Helen Caldicott Foundation Fukushima Symposium
                New York Academy of Medicine, 11 March
                http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/StevenStarr.html


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                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

                  “Remember, these nuclear poisons are lethal at the atomic level. There are as many atoms in one gram of Cesium-137 as there are grains of sand in all the beaches of the world. That’s 1021 atoms—10 to the 21st power. 1480 trillion of them or 1.48 times 10 to the 12th power are disintegrating every second, releasing invisible nuclear energy. So this works out to about one and a half million disintegrations per second per square meter. We can see how this works then….”
                  http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/StevenStarr.html
                  2 grams of cesium-137 has more radioactivity than 20 tons of Potasium-40”
                  http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/images/StarrFS05.jpg


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                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    PJ, with all your study and posting, tell us, what is the correct sievert per becquerel multiplier for C-137 and K-40?


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

                      Potassium-40 = 0.0000071 Curies per gram = 71 ten-millionths Curies per gram
                      Vs
                      Cesium-137 = 88 Curies per gram
                      Strontium-90 = 140 Curies per gram
                      http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/images/StarrFS04.jpg

                      1 curie = 3.7 times 10^+10 Becquerel
                      http://www.translatorscafe.com/cafe/EN/units-converter/radiation-activity/7-1/curie-becquerel/


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

                      “…Specific activity measures the radioactivity of a unit weight of substance. The units are curies per gram or becquerels per gram. This allows us to compare whether a substance is more or less radioactive than another. The specific activity of a radionuclide is inversely proportional to its atomic weight and its half-life….
                      “Dose conversion factors (DCFs) are used to convert an amount of radioactivity (expressed in curies or becquerels) breathed or ingested by a person into a dose (expressed in rems and sieverts). The DCFs used for regulatory purposes are derived from a combination of a variety of experimental data and mathematical models….”
                      http://ieer.org/resource/classroom/measuring-radiation-terminology/

                      K – 40 – 8.54E-10 per gram of natural K.
                      Cs 137 8.8 E1
                      http://www.iem-inc.com/information/tools/specific-activities

                      Dividing the specific activity pf cesium by the specific activity of K-40 which is part of natural potassium you get:
                      103,044,496,487


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

                      Here are some dose conversion factors. I don't have time right now to read this paper. Obviously, it depends on if inhaled or external. I don't know if these doses in this paper are as if over a whole body, or calculated at the atomic level.

                      http://www.iaea.org/inis/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/37/101/37101600.pdf


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Thanks PJ…keep going, we are looking for the sieverts per becquerel of K-40 then. Your above paper gives Cs-137=
                      1.3E–08 sieverts/bq adult or 13 nanosieverts
                      2.1E–08 sieverts/bq child 0-1 yrs old

                      but nothing for k-40

                      If you want to be knowledgeable about nuclear fallout and a good anti nuker, you should know this, we all should know it

                      I predict you will find K-40 is 6.2 nSv/Bq or 0.6 E-8 sieverts/becquerel

                      If thats what you find, then you can throw all your specific activity numbers out the window, because 20 becquerels from potassium is as toxic as 10 becquerels of cesium 137.

                      If you believe that is true, then you have nothing to worry about regarding the C-137 fallout. If you dont believe it, then you need to find different Becquerel to Sievert conversion factors.

                      While you are at it, you could find that one paper that TESTS, (no extrapolation from other isotopes) the actual danger of K-40. Without the test, its all a guess. Thanks


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      looking at your conversion tables, there are many nuclides that are considered less dangerous per becquerel than K-40. Who believes this?

                      http://www.iaea.org/inis/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/37/101/37101600.pdf

                      It is no wonder that our young scientists everywhere are duped into believing that 10,000 hiroshima bombs of fallout is harmless


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                    • Jebus Jebus

                      Makes one wonder why they even stopped exploding ever increasing yields in the atmosphere. I's all fucking harmless, inert, diluted, dispersed and distributed. There's no immediate harm. WTH, I'm a murican and I want my country to be able to annihilate my enemy's, and me, better than they can annihilate me, and themselves. I want the most tested and powerfull nuclear weapons money can bribe. Just think how great the fourth could be. Every major city could have the best display of any country and we could be testing yields at the same time. We could terraform the planet with nuclear weapons. Besides, I've just about paid enough in my electric bill to have one in my backyard. Jesus, I hope Hillary get's to the white house before she gets arrested. she could make this happen…


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

                      Some time I will look at what Busby has to say:

                      https://www.google.com/search?q=dose+rate+conversion+busby&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

                      Meanwhile, I certainly am not disagreeing with Dr. Steven Starr.


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                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

                    Why disagree with him?

                    http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Fukushima/images/StarrFS04.jpg

                    There are epidemiological studies that show how harmful cesium 137 is. It is manmade and not natural. And man-made K-40 apart from natural potassium is 8,800 times more lethal than the potassium you eat in foods.

                    I did post a study once on K-40, but the citation is now buried somewhere. And I find this discussion completely non-essential, distracting and time consuming.


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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

                      Radiation effects are at the atomic level. Hence, for internal exposure, specific activity is the correct unit for comparison.


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      PJ, no authority/expert on radiation uses specific activity as the correct unit for comparison of radiation dose. Radiation dose in sieverts is the equivalent amount of radiation that would do the same harm.

                      What is the relative danger of K-40 per becquerel (standard unit of radioactivity) compared to C-137? Use any comparative nomenclature that suits you, for example a percentage is fine, or sick days and deaths per becquerel etc, if you dont care for sieverts. Heres a challenge; are you capable of answering a basic question? Are you highly educated, do you know anything about your subject of nuclear danger?

                      When you say you find this discussion completely non essential distracting and time consuming, it tells me that you dont even know the basics of radiation, havent learned anything about it since Ive been focusing on these specific and essential subjects, dont know what radiation dose is, dont know how to compare the danger of background to fallout, have no clue how dangerous cesium or potassium is and dont want to be cornered on your lack of knowledge.

                      Yet you follow me around as if you can debunk my posts, leaving a pile of your posts to wade through, just in case you found anything relevant


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            • Jebus Jebus

              Sum of the parts, always.

              I can only add the analog effect.

              IMHO, it's one of the reasons why we look for the cesium isotopes…

              I always see the cesium 137 compared to K 40.

              The reality is that the cesium 137 is replacing the K40 too.

              The analog effect puts errors into biological functions…


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              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                Jebus…cesium replaces potassium. Yes, one of many reasons one substance is a poison for us while another isnt, even at the same radiation level.
                The specific gravity of cesium is 1.9 while potassium is .862, much closer to water. Who knows even that could have an effect on how it may deposit? Certainly the specific activity or radiation per mass which is hugely different. One radiation source is 'of the body' recognized as 'self', the other is recognized as a poison, if/when its recognized. Thus systemic morbidity needs to be added to the official scientific understanding of fallout effects, to replace their theoretical stochastic notion


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            • Jebus Jebus

              One can only wonder at the complexity of life, living, but still realize that there is no math evolved in there for replacing potassium with cesium 137…

              Gene circuits in live cells can perform complex computations

              Living cells are capable of performing complex computations on the environmental signals they encounter.

              These computations can be continuous, or analogue, in nature — the way eyes adjust to gradual changes in the light levels. They can also be digital, involving simple on or off processes, such as a cell's initiation of its own death.

              http://www.sciencecodex.com/gene_circuits_in_live_cells_can_perform_complex_computations-183675

              Biology has no math for mankinds creations.

              Especially randomly decaying values in functions.

              Errors then express themselves.

              The analog effect puts errors into biological functions…


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Correct..can't find something if you are intentionally not looking for it. :(


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2015/s4468353.htm at the eighteen minute mark, the guy gets checked for radiation exposure and they did not say, "less than a chest X-ray."

    I'm impressed.

    Tepco said there were many areas at the plant where workers will no longer be required to wear full mask protection gear. What — the wind doesn't blow now?


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    • It is easy to say that when the exterior gamma and neutron radiation has it's way with all of the workers via the 'gamma shine' effect.

      But the meters being used DO NOT MEASURE THIS AT ALL.

      All they measure is the net interior absorbed dose, emitting from inside of a person. They know how to keep that pretty low and how to fudge those numbers too.. in oh so many ways.


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  • DannieJ DannieJ

    600 tonnes unaccounted for eh?

    Does anyone know what is going on in reactor one? Exactly how much material was in no. 3 when it exploded IN A MUSHROOM CLOUD?


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  • PhilipUpNorth

    Bagger 288 Earth Digger could dig 100' foundation, 50' wide, around Units 1-4, in about a week. It would take longer to set up the machine, than it would take to do the work. It would take longer to reposition the machine 90 degrees at the end of the cut, than it would take to dig the cut. Bagger 288 can be operated by one person, and could be remote controlled.
    "The RWE Bagger 288 earth digger stands 311 feet tall, is 705 feet extensive and weighs 45,500 tons (the heaviness of the Titanic was 46,328 tons)."
    http://www.projectsjugaad.com/2012/02/worlds-biggest-excavator-jugaad-in-germany/
    There probably is a Bagger Digger already in Japan, which could be modified for the Fukushima job.

    Bring in rebar cages by barge.
    Lift them into place by crane.


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  • PhilipUpNorth

    Fukushima would need several mobile batch concrete plants. Here is an example.
    Similar plants are no doubt manufactured in Japan. These could be mounted on barges, providing continuous pour capability from off shore.

    "The patented Hagan HT-Series Batch Plant combined with the patented HM-10 Horizontal Shaft Mixer can produce up to 450 yards an hour with a 30 sec mix time. Both plant and mixer are the highest production and most portable wet mobile batching plant in the industry. Hydraulic erect models available!
    http://www.vincehagan.com/equipment/wet-portable-concrete-batch-plants/


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  • PhilipUpNorth

    What we have at Fukushima is the lack of funds and a lack of will to get the job done.

    Nothing at all seems to be happening.

    All that will happen in the first 10 years after 3/11, is that another 5 years will have passed without decisive action.

    Take Fukushima away from Tepco.

    Put the Japanese Army in charge.


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      Lack of funds??
      No amount of money can fix Fukushima, or it would have been done.

      Lack of will??
      You are implying they choose not to fix it? They can, but they decided not to?? Lazy? Thoughtless??

      There is no known knowledge or technology to fix Fukushima. According to them, they don't even know what it is that they need to fix, as they can't find it or get close enough to it. Just 2 of the issues of many.

      You imply cores and fuel are at (x) location and can be cemented in. Have a look at a side view of the plant including underground structure. The plant is below sea level in the basement locations. We hear a lot about groundwater. What about sea water? Dump a bunch of concrete on and around it…and that wouldn't stop the sea from penetrating any nuclear fuel. You imply that nuclear fuel in those amounts in contact with the ocean itself is easily understood and controllable. Nobody knows what happened and nobody knows what to do about it. Unknown location of fuel means it could be anywhere, doing anything and is not understood by anyone. This is unprecedented. Never been experimented with and never happened before.

      What happens when you dump hot fuel into the open ocean? Give me some graphs, science and studies!!!!
      Perhaps sea water is preventing the freezing?

      I commend you for providing answers, but unfortunately, Tepco would have taken your advice long ago if it had merit. No one- not even Tepco wants this to be a reality.

      So, where is it?


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      Time and money? Try the ultimate price- eternity.

      Nice going nuclear- you ruined everything.


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  • Sol Man

    But, the robots tried a few times but burned-out. Any equipment in the area would need to be hardened, and still there would be no guarantees that it would continue to function. It does seem that some have created problems larger than we can fix. So, toast it is!

    Now, about those 444_+/- other npp's out there…


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      The robots got too close. They need to build a wall around the four reactors, that extends below and above ground level. Use a huge gantry crane with large remotely controlled arms. All electronics are hundreds of meters away. Use hydraulic controllers. The working ends would be expendable. Saws, cutters etc. Fill the entire place with water, the entire tub surrounding the four reactors. Take it down from the top. A water sluice/submerged conveyor belt takes pieces far inland for processing. All of these tools are rather huge. Little itsy bitsy robots are not required.


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  • earthsmith earthsmith

    Snap crackle pop
    You got Fukushima
    Fissioning corium blobs
    You got blackoutshima
    Burning fuel pools
    Where is the worldwide subpoena
    Fuku you Disneyland dreamers


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  • What if the corium blobs are 1 mile down?

    A cement ring around the plant will not do a thing.

    Better to try something than nothing at all.

    But first, it would make sense to find where the missing out of control fissioning corium blobs are to and figure out HOW BIG they are and what temps they are.

    Then chart the next step, whatever it is.

    DOH


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      ENEnews had an estimate of corium size many moons ago. It was about the size of a small two story english house. This must be due to the melting of surrounding materials. I dont know if that was accurate. Whats accurate if a large part of the fuel was transformed into 2 micrometer spheres and blown by the wind around the globe? But anyway, what good was concrete in the first place? It just makes it harder to deal with in the future. Better is to bury the place in dirt, volcanic ash, diatomacious earth etc and cover with a rubber membrane…if one has thrown up the hands and admits utter defeat. It seems to me that such large masses of corium would be creating huge steaming fumerols with all that underground river water. The place should look like Yellowstone, but it doesnt. Doenst that indicate that most of the fission has ended, that the corium is in decay heat mode and cooled by water rather than steaming it away? Doesnt that indicate it hasnt melted forever downward? I just dont see it melting forever down without an ongoing major steam vent, a geyser, like old faithful.


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      • Maybe, maybe not. NO one knows at this point.

        Imagine the corium melting down through a groundwater layer, full of cool moving water in a blanket.

        Imagine the corium blobs are all below this blanket groundwater layer, steaming away.

        The steam rises, hits the blanket of cooling water, and the steam is condensed back into water, but flows out to the ocean, as super radioactive contaminated liquid, straight from a corium blob.

        Water reflects. It actually keeps the fissioning corium blob going longer than if it was surrounded by nothing but soil.

        This experiment has never been done before so until the corium blobs are found, no one knows what they are doing, unless they already know and are secretly tracking them.


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      • Agree with Code and others that an unknown but LARGE amount of corium was released via fire, explosions, melt outs, into hot particles and gases that went around the world.

        The total amount will probably never be known because there are powerful forces at work to make sure that this number is never known.

        Secrets.. got to keep them, don't you know?

        Everyone knows Fuku is only 1 to 10 percent of Cherno.

        Sarc


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        • earthsmith earthsmith

          Continual presence of I 131


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          • Yeppers, that is the data and evidence of continued fission at Fukushima, even if there is much less or no 'steaming'.

            Both xenon and I 131 being found far away from Fukushima are the 'proof' and evidence that corium blobs continue to fission at Fukushima, no matter what TEPCO or the nuclear 'experts' say.

            And that is also why things will continue to go downhill and get worse, because the longer those blobs are allowed to fission out of control and with no one measuring or even monitoring them, the worse things get in all directions.

            Got terminal Denial? It is not a river in Egypt.


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    • Gasser Gasser

      How about pumping cement down the Corium pathways till they fill up, that should plug up the bad rad emission's and water can flow around the plugs and it will make the complex more stable for the infinite decommissioning process…mean while what's to do with millions of sacked Radioactive soil? dump it in the middle of the Sahara desert and let the sand storms bury it under huge dune's? or dump it in Bill & Hillary's back yard?

      Meanwhile back in my back yard staying complicated busy in the mind to over ride the Fukushima ELE factor with fun near death postulating in the here and now.

      http://www.thefoat.com/video/GkoqLIVoB63sg121sgMJ4tWR8Ojw%3D%3D.mp4


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      • Maybe, but what if the open channels to the corium blobs can be used to continually pump down boron or other stuff to get the blobs to quit fissioning?

        Once the tubes are cemented, there is no more access to the blobs, and they cannot be controlled or monitored?

        What if these coria keep on growing, and eventually reach critical mass, causing a nuclear explosion, taking out all of the blobs underground, plus ALL Of the spent fuel on site, and transforming it into hot particles that go around the world?


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  • earthsmith earthsmith

    The cam watchers point to steam/smoke events….not all the time but unfortunately they exist


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Each reactor at Fukushima was putting out about 700 megawatts. That gives us a clue about magnitude of events. A high powered locomotive is 5 megawatts. So if a corium was in full operational power output, it would be equal to 140 locomotives. Now we have three or four. Despite the iodine and C-60 and the steam and smoke events, I personally dont get the sense of 400 full-on locomotives worth of power going on. Criticality could be intermittent. We dont see the really big explosions or steam geysers. 400 locomotives of energy, melting into the earth would leave a mighty trail, no matter what, in my opinion. I dont rule it out, that corium is kilometers below, Im just saying it doesnt seem like it from appearances.


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      • earthsmith earthsmith

        I don't think it is a locomotive either and I don't know the specifics either but I believe all 3 are out the building in varying states and places below the plant. And this is where we get "events". Sure some may have traveled to depths or out to sea and yeah we know about the atmosphere too. Besides runaway locomotives attract to much attention….nobody cares about a lost caboose


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  • GOM GOM

    Sellafield, a 100-year, 55-building decommissioning project, has an overall cleanup cost estimate of £70 billion.

    http://www.sellafieldsites.com/solution/decommissioning/the-plan/
    •••
    •••
    "The stuff is still active so it needs to be handled with the respect and care it deserves, and the site itself is one of the most congested industrial facilities in the world.
    "With possibly 10,000 people working here on a daily basis, it's like a small town, so it's a huge challenge in a very, very tight space."

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-24167091


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  • laconic93

    http://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/supes-to-hear-report-on-high-county-cancer-rates/article_031a9e5e-1e5a-5a9d-af17-4c9e3c1e206d.html

    High Cancer rates in California. You don't say..

    Napa County from 2006-2013 had the highest age-adjusted incident rate for cancer among California’s 58 counties, the report said. The rate was 487.7 cases of some type of cancer for every 100,000 people.

    One thing I have noticed in all news articles about Cancer rates. The cut off the data at either year 2012 or 2013. In the age of instant information and computers you know what time it is.


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  • laconic93

    30 Fukushima kids diagnosed with thyroid cancer in second check, upping total to 131 but radiation ‘unlikely’ cause.

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/06/07/national/30-fukushima-kids-diagnosed-thyroid-cancer-second-check-upping-total-131-radiation-unlikely-cause/#.V1Y5XI-cHoJ

    NEIN NEIN!!! Ze cancer is caused by the earths rotation on a full moon mixed with the effects of El Nino.


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  • laconic93

    Can somebody help me out with this.

    If Nuclear Reactors Generate electricity. Then why did they melt down because of loss of outside power lines? I understand that they go into scram during a earthquake. But why didn't they un scram and self power there own cooling systems? Because then the diesel generators would not be needed or am I missing something. Just curious.


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  • Seriously, if you block the cooling water or break the pipes sending cooling water to a packed and hot spent fuel pool or reactor, it melts down and out. Period. End of story. Got Fuku?


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  • Nick

    The way I recall what happened….

    …the earthquake severed all manner of plumbing and twisted wire sensors into knots. Not all of the busted plumbing carried coolant, some of it carried air.

    It was the airlines that were needed to valve up and down the systems.

    The scramble for batteries was to try and turn on an air valve here and another one there.

    But the lines were severed.

    Valaves were never opened.

    Coolant wouldn't have gotten in any way (where the water pipes were cracked/compromised)

    I bet 50% of Fukushima is in the biosphere.


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  • Sol Man

    Earth is one of the very rare planets that is able to sustain life.
    But, much more of this radioactive stuff, along with all of the other voc and organophosphide poisons and living creatures will be no longer.

    We will not experience any of the other life because we will not be here, either.

    It is very likely already too late, I feel.


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    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

      Still, it is better to try to stop continued increases in radiation and other toxic contamination that to just fiddle while Rome burns.


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      • Sol Man

        Yes. But, We have not ever seen a decrease in the readings. I mean since they started testing. Have we?


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        • Readings? That assumes someone knows how to read AND speak the language.. big assumptions

          Guessing that most to many of the people in harms way have NO clue.

          Radiation readings? look up and read the clouds.. see? no radiation there, clouds are not complaining and they look normal, plus dosimeter reads normal background when pointed at clouds.

          sarc


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        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

          I remember a study by Sternglass that showed decreases in a radionuclide after there were no more atmospheric testing.


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          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

            It was after a nuclear plant closure:

            Strontium-90 in Deciduous Teeth as a Factor in Early Childhood Cancer
            Jay M. Gould, Ernest J. Sternglass, Janette D. Sherman, Jerry Brown, William McDonnell, Joseph J. Mangano.

            International Journal of Health Services
            Volume 30, Number 3, 2000, Pages 515-539.
            Copyright Baywood Publishing Co., Inc.
            Abstract
            Strontium-90 concentrations in deciduous (baby) teeth of 515 children born mainly after the end of worldwide atmospheric nuclear bomb tests in 1980 are found to equal the concentrations in children born during atmospheric tests in the late 1950s. Recent Sr-90 concentrations in the New York, New Jersey, Long Island metropolitan area have exceeded the expected downward trend seen in both baby teeth and adult bone after the 1963 ban on atmospheric testing. Sharp rises and declines are also seen in Miami, Florida. In Suffolk County, Long Island, Sr-90 concentrations in baby teeth were significantly correlated with cancer incidence for children 0 to 4 years of age. A similar correlation of childhood malignancies with the rise and decline of Sr-90 in deciduous teeth occurred during the peak years of fallout in the 1950s and 1960s.
            Independent support for the relation between nuclear releases and childhood cancer is provided by a significant correlation with total alpha and beta activities in local surface water in Suffolk County.


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          • True, but then if you live downwind and near a nuclear facility with constant fission, or you live in the fallout zone of a nuclear accident, all bets are off, and none of what you point at applies.

            There is also the matter of a constant increase since the nuclear age of background radiation from 400 plus nuclear plants, nuclear accidents, etc..

            Now the new precious is plutonium MOX fuel, with unknown health consequences.. THey are putting this in all nuclear plants, converting the old ones, just a little higher power output.

            Wait and see..


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  • Nick

    "The first survey covered about 300,000 children who were under the age of 18 and living in the northeastern Japan prefecture when the nuclear plant disaster was triggered by a huge earthquake and subsequent tsunami in March 2011.

    The number of children diagnosed with thyroid cancer in the second round was up from 16 as reported at the previous panel meeting in February.

    Hokuto Hoshi, head of the panel and a senior member of the Fukushima Medical Association, maintained his earlier view of the correlation between the cancer figures and radiation, saying based on expertise acquired so far, it is “unlikely” that the disease was caused by radiation exposure."

    http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/30-children-confirmed-to-have-thyroid-cancer-in-2nd-fukushima-survey

    Unlikely?

    My ass.


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  • Nick

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/06/04/national/nsa-whistleblower-snowden-says-u-s-government-carrying-out-mass-surveillance-in-japan/

    The untold story about Fukushima is the USA's role in plutonium acquisition from numerous Japanese nuclear reactors from the get go (decades ago).

    Why else would we have supported the State's Secret's Law?

    Connect the dots.

    Why else would we accept Japanese food? Increase rad dose limits? Turn off rad monitors? etc.

    Collusion in silence.


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  • Nick

    "KORIYAMA, Japan — She's 21, has thyroid cancer, and wants people in her prefecture in northeastern Japan to get screened for it. That statement might not seem provocative, but her prefecture is Fukushima, and of the 173 young people with confirmed or suspected cases since the 2011 nuclear meltdowns there, she is the first to speak out.

    That near-silence highlights the fear Fukushima thyroid-cancer patients have about being the "nail that sticks out," and thus getting hammered.

    The thyroid-cancer rate in the northern Japanese prefecture is many times higher than what is generally found, particularly among children, but the Japanese government says more cases are popping up because of rigorous screening, not the radiation that spewed from Fukushima Dai-ichi power plant."

    It's the screening?

    Horseshit.


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  • Nick

    "In a news conference this week, they stuck to the view the cases weren't related to radiation. Most disturbing was a cancer found in a child who was just 5 years old in 2011, the youngest case found so far. But the experts brushed it off, saying one wasn't a significant number.

    "It is hard to think there is any relationship," with radiation, said Hokuto Hoshi, a medical doctor who heads the committee."

    This Hoshi guy is shill-lacking the truth with his no relationship varnish!

    Expect a cold shudder to ripple throughout Japan in the next few months as they grapple with their radioactive reality.

    You can't make this stuff up.


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  • Nick

    "Ever since Charles Darwin published On the Origin of Species in 1859, evolution has been the grand unifying theory of biology. Yet one of our most important biological traits, consciousness, is rarely studied in the context of evolution. Theories of consciousness come from religion, from philosophy, from cognitive science, but not so much from evolutionary biology. Maybe that’s why so few theories have been able to tackle basic questions such as: What is the adaptive value of consciousness? When did it evolve and what animals have it?

    The Attention Schema Theory (AST), developed over the past five years, may be able to answer those questions. The theory suggests that consciousness arises as a solution to one of the most fundamental problems facing any nervous system: Too much information constantly flows in to be fully processed. The brain evolved increasingly sophisticated mechanisms for deeply processing a few select signals at the expense of others, and in the AST, consciousness is the ultimate result of that evolutionary sequence. If the theory is right—and that has yet to be determined—then consciousness evolved gradually over the past half billion years and is present in a range of vertebrate species."

    http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/06/how-consciousness-evolved/485558/

    Yet, in just a few short decades, humans have de-evolved due to toxic loading of the biosphere.

    GMI is real.


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  • EDF sent out an email blast asking for donations and support for a 'clean energy' future, without specifying what that is exactly. So, here is the specific around nuclear in the future, as far as Environmental Defense Fund is concerned.. response to email.

    Members at symbol edf.org

    EDF is not an anti-nuclear organization, but we do support strong safety regimes with respect to: design standards, waste management (including transportation) programs, operator training, security, inspections, etc. EDF recognizes that nuclear power represents a significant portion of the US electricity profile (20%), and we believe that it will continue to be part of America’s energy mix for some time to come. Our President, Fred Krupp, addressed this in an interview with MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell. You can view that here: http://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-reports/watch/sustained-change-obama-unveils-climate-plan-497534531635

    Thank you,
    Annebet, EDF


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  • Large Earthquakes Up 300% This Year in Mexico, New Zealand With New Massive Magma Chamber – See more at:

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2016/06/large-earthquakes-up-300-this-year-in.html#sthash.NanoBtdx.dpuf

    And Space Chili


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