UK gov’t plan based on radiation release from Fukushima being almost double Chernobyl total

Published: June 22nd, 2011 at 1:21 pm ET
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UK government’s Fukushima crisis plan based on bigger leak than Chernobyl, Guardian, June 20, 2011:

[...] The UK government’s response to the unfolding crisis is revealed in documents prepared for Sir John Beddington, the chief scientist and chair of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage), and released to the Guardian under the Freedom of Information Act. The 30 documents include advice from the National Nuclear Laboratory on damage to the plant, public safety assessments from the Health Protection Agency (HPA), computer models of the radioactive plume from Defra’s Radioactive Incident Monitoring Network (Rimnet), and the worst case scenario that might unfold at the plant.

A substantial number of documents were withheld on grounds that they contained “information which, if disclosed, would adversely affect international relations,” the government’s civil contingencies team said. [...]

‘Worst case scenario’: How Britain prepared for Fukushima fall-out with iodine pills and radiation tests, Daily Mail, June 21, 2011:

[...] They said ‘the reasonable worst case scenario’ was if there was leaking radiation from six spent fuel ponds at the plant and all three reactors were damaged.

They worked out that if this happened, 9.92 million terabecquerels of radiation could be been propelled into the air – almost double that released during the Chernobyl disaster in Ukraine in 1986. [...]

Britain’s crisis plan was based on a scenario where almost double the amount of radiation was released into the air than the 1986 Chernobyl power plant disaster [...]

Read the documents released under FOIA here.

h/t mooter, nomade, risabee

Published: June 22nd, 2011 at 1:21 pm ET
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61 comments to UK gov’t plan based on radiation release from Fukushima being almost double Chernobyl total

  • AkDave AkDave

    Did I not read the south will become radioactive this fall when we change from summer to winter? Can someone help me out on this. Thanks


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    • alasanon

      Good question! I’ve read everything from the southern hemisphere has ONLY 1 guaranteed safe year left to 4-5 years to indefinite?…I guess it depends on the releases and whether it will ever abate with a little more work and time.


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  • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

    The UK Guardian is part of the worldwide English language (first world industrialized) disinformation. The disinformation here is that Fukushima in any type of scenario reasonably analyzed would be only twice as bad as Chernobyl. With or without graphite involved in the initial explosions at Fukushima, the disaster is likely many hundreds to many thousands (or more) times worse than Chernobyl for a variety of reasons, such as: lack of containment at all for months with no end, really (plastic covering?) in sight. In addition, the volume of material that is uncontained is not just 20x more, but likely far more than what was uncontained from Chernobyl and last of the major evidence that this Guardian piece, is itself, disinformation toward minimization of Fukushima’s world impact, is that MOX fuels were used in reactor three with likely complete disintegration (from atomization particalization to multi-kilo chunks being thrown) of the contents in explosion at the reactor #3 spent fuel pool early in the incident. Obviously far more plutonium was let into the environment from Fukushima. How many times more radioactive Pu over uranium dioxide and it’s decay products? What motivations for disinformation from the British? Sellafield, intentional and documented undermining of UK wave power/alternative clean energy initiatives in the mid-1980′s by nuclear power business consortiums, and a perpetual relationship of the dark and dirty sort with U.S. military, and nuclear power industry interests. Also, reliance, insane given the accidents that have occurred there, to some degree on nuclear power in general.


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    • chrisk9

      I agree the math used to reach twice as bad makes no sense at all and is bull. The amount of radioctive material released in the ocean has to be much larger than we have been told and probably is more than Chernobyl’s releases but we may never know the truth.
      If Fukushima loses control of just one spent fuel pool it would dwarf Chernobyl by a factor of 10 or more. Yesterdays temperature in the fuel pool #4 was near boiling, 93 degrees, and with no containment and 4-5 full cores. Yikes


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      • tony wilson

        chris9..
        i think you worked at this plant
        why the lack of action?


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        • chrisk9

          I did work at this plant in the 1970′s. I am not sure what you are asking about the lack of action. From an industry or TEPCO perspective this is so far beyond what anyone thought possible so there are no plans to deal with any of these problems. I worked for General Electric there, and I doubt anyone really believed that all these systems would fail and leave things in this state. There were issues and my friend Kai Sugoka, a whistle blower headlined here a couple of weeks ago, along with others tried to address some of them.But there is no action or game plan for something never imagined. Maybe a combination of corporate greed and naivete or a lack of imagination is the real cause.


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          • tony wilson

            the effort the industry has put into keeping a lid on the media chatter is epic.
            thousands of hours worldwide.
            not one famous actor,singer conservationist.
            all that wasted pr effort for lies that will be clearly seen in months.
            some people believe that they are now dumping hard materials in the pacific.
            even parts of spent fuel rods,that has to be psychopathic.


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  • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

    Agent BraveFace…A Music assignment for you and Kids:
    Moody Blues, “To Our Children’s Children’s Children”
    It’s a little hippy-dippy for your younger generation,
    but you got your youngins now, so Dig it, if you can
    get aholt of it…..there is a nice segment “The child awakes”
    with lovely Harp, though the album was oddly mixed, so
    that you need to turn it way up when the Harp-guitar
    intro starts.
    By His Stripes we are Healed.


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    • ocifferdave

      Heeeeeeeeeeeee’s Baaaaaaaaaack!


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    • BetaFlare

      And thats the only way under the sun; if one receives the love for Truth, the healing is given.

      And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
      Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
      And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
      And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
      That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


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    • Ruffcut

      Did you log in the wrong handle?
      Fuckface is more your style.
      If I want to read gibberish, I have ben bernanke speaking on cnbs.


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    • Darth

      “By His Stripes we are Healed.”

      Er… correction,

      By your stripes you are healed – thanks to Fukusall.


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  • BetaFlare

    Six reactors, Uranium weight 131tons or more.

    6 x 40 years, 65 tons/year = has to be under 31.000 tons of Uranium & Plutonium.

    All will eventually go up.

    Compare to Chernobyl, 25-55 tons.

    http://wp.me/pwIAV-19 (repost)


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    • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

      Beta estimates of Chernobyl are from 40 to 180 tonnes, but you could, of course, be right. I think each reactor at Fukushima, except reactor 4 was in that range, as are each of the SFP’s 1-6 and then I always have difficulty remembering how many thousands of tons are in the COMMON SFP at Fukushima Dai ichi, ni, Onagawa, Tsuruga, Hamaoka, Kashiwazaki Kariwa, in the U.S. at Fort Calhoun, at Cooper nuclear power stations. Ay yi yi.


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      • BetaFlare

        Those numbers are not mine, so I will not fight for em :) … just copypasting from some other source. I guess the numbers relate to half meltdown, estimate which stuff actually went up (its still bubbling 25 years later).

        My guess is that the Cherno core was about the same as Daichii. Official number for most Daichii cores are 131 tons ea. Making the 30k ton hi limit estimate from that point is easy; consumption of has to be much lower … not full swap every year…

        I just calculated from the supposedly Fukushima daichii original illustrations that the extra pool has about 400 ‘slots’ for the assemblies. One assembly has 8x8x4 rods, total weight for each around 4 tons. Extra pool doesnt really matter: according the 2002 study – if one blows, all will eventually go up.

        Here again, see the sources, I am an instant expert and would not want to no none of this papal depop business…

        http://wp.me/pwIAV-19 (repost)


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      • SamsuLevin

        Please add Rokkasho on your list, this large ghost storage nobody talks about it after the message that they´ve lost power after the 3/11 earthquake has been whispered in some blogs.
        Rokkasho on its own- has at least thousands of tons?


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        • BetaFlare

          Total Jap meltdown is somewhat under 500.000 tons of higly radioactive waste. My guesstimate … seen on the witch hated linky.

          Fukushima Daichii=1 is just the selected one to spin folks with “leaknews”, old videos. Fukushima Daini=2 is going down also; info kept under the lid. Kashiwakazi 7 reactors has been shut down since 11-March, bubbling, releasing etcetc. All over Japan, south and + incl those multiple in the north. Sendai was a total tsunami wipeout – what was there?

          http://wp.me/pwIAV-19 (repost)


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  • risabee risabee

    Is there a transcript of Dr. Kaku’s complete interview?


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  • mff

    As you can see, Braveface has gone over the deep end, his visa cucumber should be arriving shortly and he can go take over Tepco, good riddance


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  • DarylAnn

    Cold cold rain here in upstate NY… relentless rain will continue for days…. really wish I knew what the radiation readings were in the falling rain so I would know whether or not I should take my tomato plants in the house….. anyone have any data up here on Lake Desolation Mountain,NY?


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    • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

      My solution in the U.S., since most of our citizens are cowards and the higher you go in academic and government hierarchies here in the U.S., the more spineless…is to purchase (as individuals who can afford to or as groups) GEIGER COUNTERS of high quality and uniformly record readings from a variety of settings and of a variety of substances, such as food, irrigation canals, reservoirs, roadsides, ground level through about 3 meters up off the ground, house hold dust in closed and non-closed houses, of water bottled before and after estimated arrival of radionuclides.


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  • Atlantis

    a strip in french that sums all options ever : http://www.maliki.com/strip.php?strip=308 (feel free to contact the author to translate it another language)
    summary : the “lid syndrom” is only solution our “best scientist” come up with when they face an issue. old strategie to hide the issue so it disappear !!


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  • DarylAnn

    the situation now seems hopeless as they are unable to contain the ongoing release of radiation. What can we really do at this point? I will accept my cancerous fate as it seems that there really is not a choice……. sad and sad for the children especially!


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    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      DarylAnn, before accepting the cancerous fate, we should make sure to make some heads roll. Force the governments to quit poisoning us. Just a curious question: are there electricity providers in the US who sell nuke free energy? Here in Germany we have 4 (out of 80), and every household is free to choose where to buy energy. So a lot of people changed and turned their backs on nuclear this way. It had quite an impact…just an idea.


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      • BetaFlare

        This same circus all over the globe:

        With these kind of oaths, candidates are initiated into Freemas0nry or are progressed into a higher degree or 0rder.:

        .

        Freemas0nic I.U.0.M. White De gree; Master A ncient Sc0ttish Builders etcetc; oath:

        “…(I promise) That my breast shall be the sacred repository of his secrets when delivered to me as such, murder, treason, felony and all offenses contrary to the Law of God or the ordinances of the Realm,… All these several points and others I promise to observe without evasion, equivocation or mental reservation of any kind under no less a penalty, on the violation of them, than to have my body severed in two, my bowels torn therefrom and burnt to ashes in the centre, and those ashes scattered before the four cardinal points of Heaven, so that no trace or remembrance of me shall be left amongst men, more particularly among M aster M echanics: … Jub ela: O, that my throat had been cut serves from ear to ear, my tongue torn out and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea at low water mark, where the tide ebbs and flows twice in twenty-four hours … I solemnly promise on my word of honor that I will always obey the mandates of this Grand and Noble 0rder, and that I will forever keep secret the mysteries that shall be shown me tonight. I further promise that I will always treat the members of this order at my expense when reminded of this obligation, and have my bowels opened at regular intervals. I also promise to pay all bills contracted by members of this order. …”

        Military 0rder 0f the Serpent, Ritual of the Degree of Kha tapunan:

        …Never shall its mysteries pass my Ups
        Outside the holy circle.
        Never shall I refuse to receive thee or thy Virus
        When thou comest into our midst;
        And this vow, O Snake, swear I
        By the Sword, the Cord and the Flame.
        If ever in thought, word or deed
        I am false to Kha tee Pun a,
        May my death be lingering and wretched;
        May my soul be of the pale company
        Of horrid wraiths who haunt the mountain;
        And may my bowels be ripped out
        And cast into the flames of destruction. …

        I no u hate the link, so here it is.
        Reposted. With tinhat etc: http://wp.me/pwIAV-19 (repost)


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      • risabee risabee

        We chose Wind Only option from our supplier — costs about fifty dollars for electricity that would otherwise be about forty. Not such a burden!


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        • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

          Risabee, that’s cool! I think if everyone would take this small and affordable step, it could really change something. When we cancelled, we wrote a letter to their management explaining why we don’t want their nuke power anymore, and that we’d happily come back as clients when they stop it.


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      • arclight arclight

        now the uk has gotten the funding for its 8 nuclear powerplants!!
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13887579
        all the baddies are listed and more connections made!!!


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    • Buffalojam

      DarylAnn – Perhaps taking in your tomato plants is a sign that you really don’t want to give in to a cancerous fate just yet. I can’t help you with any readings for beautiful Lake Desolation Mountain (a cyclists paradise) but maybe a visit to Tinney’s Tavern to drown your sorrows now and then may help. Best wishes!


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  • DarylAnn

    the government here in the USA has become a government run by the military-industrial complex, international banking cartels & big business – the biggest being energy conglomerates – who control the media outlets…… there is NO freedom of press and freedom of thought is now becoming pretty scarce as well. Most in the good ole US of A are happy with the status-quo!


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  • My comment at CNN responding to industry trolls was taken down. I have proof it was up because someone responded to it.
    http://inthearena.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/21/fukushima-still-a-ticking-time-bomb/#comment-18435

    I am reposting it at CNN and we will see how long it remains there.

    I am outraged by this obvious censorship.

    Here is what I posted the first time (and now reposted)

    First of all, it is not at all clear that workers at Fukushima have not died. Read the article: Contract workers registered with TEPCO have mysteriously disappeared from the contractor’s employment records. Mainichi: “Whereabouts of 30 nuclear power plant subcontractors unknown: Health Ministry”
    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110621p2a00m0na005000c.html

    Second, there is considerable evidence of ongoing fission at the Fukushima plant reactors given the ongoing production of Iodine-131, which has a 8 day half life. See Gunderson’s Fairewinds updates http://www.fairewinds.com/ and Washington’s blog for an essay with citations on ongoing criticality http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2011/06/are-nuclear-reactions-still-occuring-at.html

    Third, spent-fuel pool #4 is an ongoing cataclysmic disaster. Building #4 was damaged by #3’s explosion and the spent fuel pool in #4’s attic was reported by the NYT to be cracked. This pool is full of rods and is leaking water and was recently found to be 2/3 empty, meaning there was a high likelihood that the fuel rods were exposed. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20_03.html

    Fourth, de-contamination of the radioactive water has not gone well and has had to be stopped over and over because of various problems
    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/17_05.html
    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/18_18.html

    Fifth, radiation releases continue to be very large
    http://sankei.jp.msn.com/affairs/news/110619/dst11061921080017-n1.htm
    “Estimates of the radioactive materials emitted double doors opening to the Fukushima No. 2 unit building $ 1.8 billion becquerels”

    DISREGARD INDUSTRY TROLLS AND DEMAND TRUTH, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY


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  • ZombiePlanet ZombiePlanet

    When people become so contaminated, disoriented, and flesh hanging from their bodies, there appears to be a plan in the works to deal with such.

    There is now a Army Zombie Combat Command to take care of the situation. They are now equipped with a new manual: “FM 999-3 Counter-Zombie Operations at the Fireteam Level.”

    I am sure they will mop up this mess, one way or the other. So if they see you are sick, vomiting and need help, orders may be to shoot on sight and destroy the brain.

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/06/army-gets-how-to-guide-for-zombie-invasion/

    Have a nice day. :)


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Sure..the whole zombie thing is a cover for those with radiation sickness and starving..that might wander around “needlessly”.


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  • 3 melt downs with 3 explosions and 100 days. still dispensing untold nuclear into the air soil and water, burning fuel pools still not covered with anything but water that is producing steam polluting the atmosphere daily !

    vs

    1 melt down 1 explosion covered within 10 days with hundreds of tons of lead and Boron and a sarcophagus over that Stopping most of contamination !

    I think more then “3 times as Chernobyl DAILY” and at 90 plus days and counting conservatively !


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  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    Hubba Bubba… currently all Japanese chewing gum… large wad to be collected and used with shoe laces and paper clips…


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  • tony wilson

    always keep an eye on barry o and his smiley happy family.
    start to get a bit worried if they are south.
    far south..or if they are not seen for some time.


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  • J.F. Sebastian

    Do you live in a rubberized environment… I hope.


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  • New Fukushima Video Reveals Radiation 1000 Xs Chernobyl
    June 15, 2011
    New Fukushima Video reveals Radiation 1000 Xs Chernobyl levels Video snippets by RT reveal that Fukushima has reached astounding levels of radiation. In fact, like no other report in history, Fukushima is the largest Radiation leak ever from a nuclear Plant. Toxic Ocean Water James Corbett, Osaka-based editor of the independent news website http://www.corbettreport.com/, says workers at …
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