Underground water just 4 inches from surface by Fukushima reactor — AP: Groundwater closer to surface than Tepco told officials investigating tank leak

Published: August 28th, 2013 at 5:56 pm ET
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Associated Press, August 28, 2013: On Wednesday, regulatory officials said […] underground water is shallower around the tank than the company initially told regulators.

Water level of the groundwater observation holes up to August 27, 2013; Hole No. 1-4  is located between No. 2 reactor and Pacific Ocean, map available on second page of Tepco handout (h/t Fukushima Diary):

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Published: August 28th, 2013 at 5:56 pm ET
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67 comments to Underground water just 4 inches from surface by Fukushima reactor — AP: Groundwater closer to surface than Tepco told officials investigating tank leak

  • American Phoenix57

    I got a graphic from a website that tries to explains what is happening at Fukushima. I posted it on Mike Adams site Natural News. They recommended I share it with everyone. Here is the link.

    Pic link:
    https://securecdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/598/8623/original.jpg

    NaturalNews link:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/041800_Fukushima_radiation_leaks_desperation.html

    If anybody can find a way to repost it here on Enenews that would be awesome.

    Thanks to all the Enenewsers for waking up the world!

    • 21stCentury 21stCentury

      yes, handy pic phoenix..

      http://northwest.construction.com/images/2009/091201-15.jpg

      Why hasn't TEPCO installed a lot of clean-freshwater diversion pipes to ocean outfall yet ??

      Install enough drainage and you'll eventually divert the entire artesian upwelling volume of freshwater through the porous sandstone.

      ..proper drainage should have been installed there in the 1970's.

      YIKES!!.. and there's several hundred other nukeplants worldwide built with equally stupid defects.

    • Flapdoodle Flapdoodle

      Thanks Phoenix. My tired old eyes could not make sense, but I realize I could hit control + to make it larger. That drawing makes it very clear we are in deep kimchee. It would be nice if it could be e-mailed to every human on Earth.

    • MichaelV MichaelV

      Excellent graphic… thanks

    • UncleCrusty

      Thanks Phoenix. Excellent Graphic for explaining to people. Simple, yet terrifying. Stolen, Sir. 🙂

    • vicky13 vicky13

      <img src="http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/vickyb1313/fukushimadiagram_zps68464051.jpg&quot; border="0" alt=" photo fukushimadiagram_zps68464051.jpg"/>

      Hiya Testing Diagram Display

    • truthseek truthseek

      Many thanks Phoenix! Everyone for contributing.

      I post this excellent graphic directly to my Facebook page,
      while I was sitting at the airport, making use of your effort.
      Surprisingly few people commented (near disappointment)
      6 out of over 400 people ;-/ and 2 shares.

      I made an urgent plead for people to propagate this.

      • zardoz2012 zardoz2012

        People are not stupid. They choose to be in denial but deep down inside they are scared to death. They know something is wrong.

        • Kassandra

          I believe you are absolutely correct Zardoz

        • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

          Any attempt I ever made to bring it up resulted in crickets too. If the situation is not reported by some breathless media rep backed by timpani drums w/ scrolling media banners full of emotion and fear, everything is just fine.

          Simple clear cut Pavlovian conditioning.

          Nothing to see here folks. Keep moving. Move along now.

    • ftlt

      Still think is mainly an added coolant water problem… The soil water at saturation out flow rate is smaller than the amount of water being added… Other drainage and LEAK factors are probably involved..

      The schematic drawing does not show added water other than excess coolant transferred to the failing tanks…

      Has the leakage there slowed the excess water transfers – causing added coolants to be left to drain into the soils of the site???

      Not so much a groundwater problem IMO…

      Not that there is no water table influences and that they are not threatened short and long term..

      Again, "Groundwater" is a confusing term here…

      • mairs mairs

        Since they diverted a river to put the plant in that spot, there still can be movement of water in the old path, but underground.

        • ftlt

          That could be a problem… Smart site locating job for another nuke… WOW!! Stupid is as stupid does..

          Still I will stick with my best guess until more info comes out..

          The river reminds of the one they had starting building on the mega fault south of Eureka in Northern California in the 60s or 70s???… It turned out to a sub fault of the super Cascadia Subduction Zone off the coast of the Great Northwest… Fun place for a nuke???

          It was big part of the great story of the finding of the subduction zone there..

          Moving rivers… WOW!!! HAHAHAHA

      • ftlt

        I should just thinking out loud here.

        Take a straight sided largest can you can find or a large bore straight sided cylinder or large bore pipe with both ends open out to your lawn and drive it in a few inches so it stands alone.

        Fill it quickly with water to a line near the top so you don't get overflow.

        Measure the fall of the water and time it. repeat and repeat until the flow (fall of water level in pipe) becomes steady (normally a standardized (trying to remember size) say 16" of about 2 FT in length of large bore pipe are used for this and no extra water is needed then). The fall rate should slow as you measure over time.. It does not take all that long. Certainly, under an hour is most soils

        The steady fall rate is an idea the saturation absorption rate of that soil…

        I believe, this is what is happening around the units at FUFU as much as anything.

        There is nowhere for the added coolant water to go – but out and up if excess water is being applied above the Sat. Absorption rate of the soils and no other removal is being done or there is leakage (which there is).

        Now perhaps, the water table has risen to reach the inverted heights observed. But on another graph I saw on here, it seemed to indicated it was not a general condition everywhere at all observation tube holes. (don't think these are wells – maybe sump holes)

  • MichaelV MichaelV

    Those NP buildings will collapse…
    …goodbye fuel rod storage tanks.

    How long are they going to continue pouring water into those lava tubes?

    • Lacsap Lacsap

      Depends if the molten fuel is a bog blob or spread out.

      'A compact corium mass will lose less heat than a thinly spread layer.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corium_(nuclear_reactor)

      And TEPCO doesn't know the condition the fuel is in, or where is located.. But cooling will continue for many years for sure.

    • truthseek truthseek

      My gut feeling is that those buildings are swimming
      (will crumble or sink) sitting in that drenched and porous
      soil… Think about those vibrating bulbs they use when
      pouring concrete, settling the air voids. EQ, explosions,
      random criticality's… the mass of the demolished
      and unstable buildings working in reverse,
      the wet mud forms around NPP

      My modest 2 story split level house, the foundation "floats"
      or breaths in or out a couple millimeters across the length
      measured over the top of the foundation, with water / soil
      volumizing during peak moisture and reverse in dry spells.

      I struggle to imagine the scale or forces working at play…
      at Fukushima Nuke complex.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "below storage tanks"..
    I'm taking an…"I told you so."
    Sigh..

    PS. There is no joy in being correct.

    • SS4U SS4U

      What do you think will happen from this point ?

      I read your posts and I am impressed with your knowledge. There are a few other sharp peeps here: Cisco and you IMHO are among the tops.

      I would like to know what you and maybe Cisco think will happen next and what would be your possible solutions to fixing this ?

      thank you SS

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        I can't believe no one has figured this out yet.

        They're sinking the site on purpose. Backflooding the site, coupled with the continuous earthquakes, is creating site liquifaction. Not that their supercomputer-generated timetable will be released to the general public, they are just going to let nature take its' course as the whole site slides into the Pacific Ocean.

        They have no intention of 'removing' anything. At some point it will all be underneath the surface of the Pacific Ocean, and the world will be told that any danger is over. There will be plenty of ignorant people that believe it, too.

        This is their plan. Next will be the dismantling of the world economy and the destruction of any viable healthcare system. Only the mega-wealthy will be able to afford medical care for their radiation-induced diseases. The rest of us, well, not so much.

        In the meantime, how about a nice distracting war?

      • Cisco Cisco

        SS4U…There are some things that cannot be fixed. Nuclear fission in the wild is one of them. There is no technology that can re-mediate radionuclides that result from nuclear detonations or nuclear power meltdowns. The only remedy is to remove these isotopes from mankind, which as we know is virtually impossible.

        Once these radionuclides have been released into the atmosphere and water, they are here forever; many are here for hundreds of thousands, and even millions of years. Biological systems can and will not avoid their destruction.

        As I've posited before, Daiichi is rapidly approaching a time when the site will be so radioactive that humans will not be able to attend to it. When the firestorm that ensues from not be able to cool the spent fuel pools, the resulting radioactive releases will be hundreds of thousands times more lethal than all of the nuclear detonations and radioactive releases of the last 40 years.

        When Daiichi catches fire, I believe at least 85% of the biological systems on this planet will cease to exist 10 years later. During those 10 years after Daiichi, hundreds of other NPP will fail and melt down because there won't be enough humans to maintain/secure them…the domino effect.

        • Cisco Cisco

          SS4U…continued

          The MOU have done the unthinkable. It is the end of us and them too. Einstein saw it coming when he said in 1946, "Our world faces a crisis as yet unperceived by those possessing the power to make great decisions for good and evil. The unleashed power of the atom has changed everything save our modes of thinking, and thus we drift toward unparalleled catastrophe."

  • BirdOfTheFeather BirdOfTheFeather

    They want the whole place in the Ocean , they know there is no way to clean it up

  • guinness69

    if the whole thing was shifted to the ocean would that cool the reactor down quick and stop it giving off radiation for years. The better of two evils . I'm no expert as you can see

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Hi Guinness, the problem is when they fall over the spent fuel rods will go critical, and reactor three has Mox fuel, which could aerosol into the upper atmosphere in a nano-particle. If this place falls over the northern hemisphere of the planet will have to deal with plutonium with a 1/2 life of 2.5 billion years in the Pacific Ocean that feeds several billion people, an covers 45% of the planet.
      http://e360.yale.edu/feature/radioactivity_in_the_ocean_diluted_but_far_from_harmless/2391/
      http://rt.com/news/fukushima-apocalypse-fuel-removal-598/

      • Lacsap Lacsap

        Even after 2.5 billion years (which is incorrect) the amount of plutonium only drops 50% (half life) and the other part decay's into another dangerous isotope with its own half life time

        'Twenty radioactive isotopes of plutonium have been characterized. The longest-lived are plutonium-244, with a half-life of 80.8 million years, plutonium-242, with a half-life of 373,300 years, and plutonium-239, with a half-life of 24,110 years. All of the remaining radioactive isotopes have half-lives that are less than 7,000 years. This element also has eight metastable states, though all have half-lives less than one second.[7]

        The isotopes of plutonium range in mass number from 228 to 247. The primary decay modes of isotopes with mass numbers lower than the most stable isotope, plutonium-244, are spontaneous fission and α emission, mostly forming uranium (92 protons) and neptunium (93 protons) isotopes as decay products' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium

        • Lacsap Lacsap

          So after the half time of plutonium there will be 50% Pu and 50% Np or U left. Decay goes on till it reaches the state lead which is the end state of all isotopes.

        • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

          I feel so much better now Lacsap….only 80 million years 1/2 life. 🙂

          One of the nuclear "experts" said the billion year thing in an interview on Russia Today.

          • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

            But really, does anyone know anything for sure? I think it is a guessing game because of the saltwater component, and Mox Fuel.

            • Lacsap Lacsap

              @newsblackoutUSA

              The highest will be plutonium-242, with a half-life of 373,300 years the 244 (not that we should cheer now)

              'Unlike plutonium-238, plutonium-239, plutonium-240, plutonium-241, and plutonium-242, plutonium-244 is not produced in quantity by the nuclear fuel cycle, because further neutron capture on plutonium-242 produces plutonium-243 which has a short halflife (5 hours) and quickly beta decays to americium-243 before having much opportunity to further capture neutrons in any but very high neutron flux environments. However a nuclear weapon explosion can produce some plutonium-244 by rapid successive neutron capture.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium-244

              The billion thing which is mentioned is true if he ment the total decay time of the Pu so the Pu is completly gone. As mentioned a half life takes away only half of the mass and takes another half life time to reduce it to 25% and so on.

              • Lacsap Lacsap

                If i'm correct it takes 7.092.700 years to reduce the amount of Pu 242 to 0,000190735 by decay through 373.300 years half life time span.

                • Lacsap Lacsap

                  It is a long way to calculate/look up the plutonium 244 decay to the end state lead. Every decay creates another isotope so gone will be nothing only changed till every form of isotope reaches the end state lead. This half life decay cycle (all together Pu->Np ->Pu->? // U->Np->Pu->?) could take 2 billions years, for now to much to calculate / look up. Maybe tomorrow i have the juice for it.

  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    They cannot get close enough to the coriums to examine them. Before they could get close enough to identify anything they would be dead. There is NO FIX for this and never will be. Welcome to the new millennium. Multi billion dollar deals going on right now selling cancer treatment pill rights and treatments world wide. The nukers are switching their money over to health care and cancer treatment drugs and facilities. They have given our children death sentences. Biggest criminal actions in the history of humanity and not a single soul in jail for it yet. Plenty of pot smokers that can't afford lawyers in there though. WHERE THE HELL IS JUSTICE FOR HUMANITY??? Guess you don't need lawyers when you got presidents in your pocket….

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      The corium is gone, melted through the bedrock long ago, and continues to travel. They are watching for what happens when it hits the core of the earth, and have talked about the possibility of hydro-volcanic explosions.

    • MichaelV MichaelV

      Stand for justice…
      … convince another to persuade another…
      The Vermont Yankee plant was denied an operations permit!!

      We must win these battles in the field, not only from the sofa…

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Yep, seems they want it to fall into the ocean and go away. And the United States needs customer's for it's largest industry, (sick care), so this nuclear disaster creates a convenient symbiotic relationship between the two countries. Wish this wasn't true, but it seems to be, as proven by the actions, and inaction', taken by each country, so far.

    • BirdOfTheFeather BirdOfTheFeather

      I'm sure they would like to get their hands on the stockpile of nuke warheads they had made before they dump it all in the Ocean

  • MichaelV MichaelV

    It all does somehow convenient fit together… someone is about to make a ton of ca$h…

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Follow the money…isn't that they way to see what is really going on in a situation? There have been no "cures" for diseases in the last 50 years. Cancer death rates were falling until this disaster. I would put nothing past the power brokers, they are devoid of the common humanity we understand.

      If there families get sick, they will have the medication that is not available to the public at large. i.e. Steve Jobs getting a liver transplant when cancer is an elimination factor from getting on the list…most people on the list will die waiting, but not the billionaire…

      This is our world…the rich use the common person and look at us as serfs to serve their whims.

      • mairs mairs

        I was just reading about the booming illegal transplant market in China. Wealthy transplant tourists put in an order for an organ, a prisoner is matched up, taken out and shot. A young Chinese boy was grabbed from his parents' yard, and his eyes were cut out of his head for the corneas. It seems like literally the serfs are becoming meat for the wealthy to consume.

      • J.

        Jobs died anyway. No one can buy immortality.

  • nedlifromvermont

    YEAH BABY!!!! Come on over for your cat scan, Honey. We'll take your house and your wife (if she's pretty) for a down payment ….

    Anyone else smell a rat with this scheme…?

    Brilliant, Coffin!

    peace, 'newsers ………..

  • We Not They Finally

    "Cracked floors in the reactors" are causing this? Have these writers located the cracks in their own heads yet? For all we know, by now it is "WHAT reactors?" or soon to come.

    And how about the water now just FOUR inches from gushing uncontrollably into the sea? Just yesterday it was TEN inches. And maybe they would bother to tell us about the thousand tons of toxic water that is ALREADY gushing into the sea every day since Day One? Nah…..

  • 21stCentury 21stCentury

    Looking at the graph in this article; it matches up with the local tide charts there. Looks to me the incoming tidewater is making the waterlevels in the inspection holes surge up&down. The hot coriums below are making steam/water pressure surges like the geysers in Yellowstone.

    This pressure surging is like a constant earthquake going on under the reactor buildings. The surging pressures will cause the ground to turn to mush.

    In 2012 a massive aerial cable crane could have been erected over the entire site. This would have made it possible to quickly empty the spent fuel pools in the tops of the wrecked reactor buildings. Massive/heavy extraction modules could have been suspended by the aerial crane. Criticalities could be outmaneuvered – too complex to describe here, but I can visualize how one would be built. The clutter, fractured fuel pellets, and damaged racks can all be extracted & dredged while kept wet within Graphene/Hafnium-clad containment.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes..they could have but they didn't and why is the question at hand? Time has a comment up above..

  • Ron

    Is there on way to sieve this stuff out of the water?

    Or is Tepco just being cheap?

    • They turned off the filtering equipment that took some of the worst stuff out.. but no, there is no way to clean it all up.

      Experts from Chernobyl are telling the Japanese to 'air dry' it, like Chernobyl.

      Maybe that is where this is all going.. Just walk away from it.

  • What is happening with the water level in the basements?

    • robu

      That is a good question. Has anyone seen a chart that shows the height of the groundwater measurement relative to the previously published torus water levels?

  • listening to Tokyo citizen reports on youTube…
    they say France first MOX fuel shipment , post fuku§hima, arrived end of July….
    Japan will be restarting a reactor to reprocess the MOX fuel for France….
    also….
    France Areva company announced in news that Japan has promissed to restart six reactors to service their MOX fuel shipments by the end of this year.

  • nedlifromvermont

    the water …. she's a comin' up …. damn it … that ol' Emmy Louy Harris song (cover) … about a travelin' man …. it's alligator days and the bars don't close, there ain't no time for lazy thinkin' …. there ain't no way … to stop the water …. well stranger better move it or he's gonna get killed …. etc. etc.

  • tinkr55

    Last night, at HuffPo, (which had the front page all about Fukushima) Michael Mann insisted that getting these spent fuel rods out of the reactors could be "easily done, with no danger to anyone." He also believes that there were no bits of rods found around the reactors after # 3 exploded, and they are all snug in their pools staying cool. It's the rest of us that are fear mongering, when there is no risk. In fact, he feels that it is perfectly safe to dine on the sea life caught on the coast of Fukushima. Trolls can be exhausting, and they refuse to admit to any of the true facts about what is happening in Japan…(smh)

  • Sol Man

    Doesn't the sinking assure that the #4 SFP collapses and burns? Then the northern hemisphere will become a cancer ward, for a while.
    Good night.

  • robu

    For the groundwater level charts that Tepco is publishing, does anyone know the actual datum points for the measurements? Are the sensors 4m down from the surface? Are they more? Are they less?

    I have seen one chart here that says the ground level is OP+10m:
    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/handouts/2013/images/handouts_130807_04-e.pdf

    which means that the measured values that TEPCO is showing for the observation holes is more than 6m below ground level (shows up as OP + 4m) and not 4 inches.

  • robu

    There's something that doesn't make sense in the Tepco graphs. Why is the measurement at hole 1-4 fluctuating wildly while the nearby observation holes not showing similar trends?

    The data seems to show that after completing the seaside project on August 9, the water levels in most of the observation holes in the project area fell a half meter in the first week and then fell another half meter in 4 days and has held steady. Is it the location of the well point relative to hole 1-4 which causes its level to fluctuate wildly. It was well behaved until august 20. What happened starting august 20 that would only affect that measurement?

    An interesting piece of information is the water level at Hole 3 which is not in the reactor 1 and 2 construction area but between 3 and 4; that level has remained constant.