Published: September 25th, 2011 at 1:33 pm ET
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Flammable gas detected in Fukushima pipe: TEPCO, AFP, September 24, 2011:
[...] Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) was unable to identify the gas but nonetheless said it was unlikely there would be an explosion in the reactor.
The company has been injecting nitrogen into the reactor so that the level of oxygen inside becomes low enough to prevent blasts.
But a TEPCO spokesman said workers at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant measured a 100-percent flammable gas in a pipe connected to the power station’s reactor number one.
“It is not clear exactly where and how this gas was created,” the spokesman told AFP. “We are considering ways to deal with it. [...]
Published: September 25th, 2011 at 1:33 pm ET
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It is curious how often you Earthmen manage to obtain that which you do not want.
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FYI – Spock never refered to humans as ‘earthmen’, he always refered to them as ‘humans’.
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Unable to identify? Right.
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Evolution is an exacting process. Sayonara Japan and all the other “apes” on the planet that are unable to adapt.
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And fish and birds and invertabrates and bacteria and viruses and cats and dogs and horses and chickens and pigs and plants and….. Well everything I guess.
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So when the corium geyser erupts, they will say, “It must have been the hydrogen…”
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Exactly, Jebus! They are setting up False Explanations
for the apparently unstoppable Big Blast, scheduled for
that moment hen they seal the BigWigs into
Cheyenne Mountain or the Denver Witchcraft Airport
Deep, Deep bunkers.
(It was a “Hydrogen” explosion….no problem!)
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Don’t believe for a second they will live in a mountain or bunker long enough to wait this poisoned environment out. He-he-he……
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you people still believe that?
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It really is a “no-brainer” when you blast your cells with high energy particles (ionizing radiation) that your cells will become damaged. What part of “duh” does it take to figure that out.
The Nuke-Pimps can always find and point to something that “proves” that radiation is not just non-harmful it is actually beneficial. The human being is capable of perpetrating many lies within their own mind, rationalizations to support a necessary view. In many cases this necesasry view may be….I have to support my family, I get peer respect from being a nuclear scientist, and I don’t want to think of myself as a bad person, plus….I am almost like God, turning matter into energy.
Motive and opportunity are there, now all we need is the weapon to prove the case of crimes against humanity. Plenty of studies show that radiation causes cancers, and there are other bad effects just due to the elements involved being directly poisonous to humans, such as the negative health effect of uranium as a chemical are far worse than the radiation effects that uranium causes.
The Iowa Radon Lung Cancer Study had several strengths. First, independent pathologic review was performed for 96 percent of the cases. Second, the study was carried out in Iowa, which has the highest mean radon concentrations in the United States. Third, the high radon concentrations in conjunction with a strict quality assurance protocol contributed to accurate and precise radon measurements…
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re: “I am almost like God, turning matter into energy.”
Oppenheimer was closer to the truth when he quoted Hindu scripture: “Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.”
Tepco, the Japanese government, and General Electric have destroyed many people’s worlds by their hubris, greed, negligence, and incompetence. So did those responsible for Chernobyl, and so did those who detonated thousands of atom bombs across the northern hemisphere in the 1950s and 60s.
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@stock@hawaii.rr Good evening S@H
the so called “nuke pimps’ as you call them aren’t the only ones trying to “prove something” The same could be said for the other side. you should read your own post “human beings are capable of lies & rationalizations to support a necessary view.” What is your view & is it necessary ? What is your agenda? regards IK
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I will believe radiation won’t hurt you when my dental tech and x-ray tech both stop leaving the room when I get an x-ray. If it is perfectly safe, they should simply sit on a chair right next to me just so we can speed that process up a bit…..
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Congrats to Admin on the site changes.
You could teach Google+ a thing or two about commenting structure.
Well done.
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“…measured a 100-percent flammable gas in a pipe connected to the power station’s reactor number one…”
I think I’d call that a ‘fast-burning fuse’,
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What are the possibilities? Hydrogen, Krypton, Xenon
Flammable gas = hydrogen
The others are Noble gases and are stable.
Confirmatory test; Obtain a sample and put some in a balloon to see if it floats.
Presto answer Hydrogen.
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Doesn’t say from which reactor. What they report on is disquieting enough. Don’t know what it is. Don’t know where it came from. Don’t worry it won’t explode implying Don’t worry we have everything under control. Nuclear Industry is ever more seen as Not To Be Trusted. Just a matter of time before general populous figures this out. Since insurance companies won’t underwrite nuclear disasters how about all nuclear scientists executives and company brass underwrite with their own personal homes and bank accounts? Add all pro nuke politicians and faux green supporters including Obama? Think that would ever happen?
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@Mark
good afternoon. “Think that will ever happen?’ What is happening that the general populace has not figured out? What is it that you have figured out? Specifically, how is the nuclear industry not to be trusted? What does “pro nuke politicians & faux green supporters” have “to do with the headline of this article about gas in a pipe”? Hypothetically If the “nuclear industry” said there was an accident near your home & told you to evacuate, Would you trust that information? Or Not? If you decided to evacuate, then why? Respectfully IK
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Eight questions? I’m not Mark, but my standard answer to such a casual blitzkrieg followup to a relatively short original post would be:
“Sorry, I only answer one query a day and today is not your day. And tomorrow is not looking too good either.”
My apologies for horning in on your “question/questions” to Mark…perhaps he does not view the tone of your post as I perceived it. It just seemed rude…perhaps you did not mean it as such.
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@Sickputer Good evening, It is too bad you chose to take my post that way even if it wasn’t to you. How does one find answers if one does not ask? There is much mis information out there. I would like to know why. Don’t You? regards IK
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OK…thanks for the followup…so maybe you’re very lively at the Christmas party…hard to tell from typed words..*;-) Take care…no offense intended earlier.
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Do your own research, IK. Here’s a head start to answering most of your questions. This lady tells YOU straight, specifically, over and over again about the total dishonesty of the entire nuclear industry.
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77vkuPtqN4A
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47PeWCIdyX4
WHERE is that pipe again?
p.s. corpse.gov has no nuke evac plan for anyone. The general populace doesn’t know sh*t because they’ve bought and ate “all is safe”. Even if they do
http://www.fastcompany.com/1746829/nuclear-power-poll-results-support-eroding
with guys like this, it doesn’t matter one bit
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pete_V._Domenici
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Agree Sickputer. I will answer one question only before I take my afternoon swim.
“Specifically, how is the nuclear industry not to be trusted?”
We now know that TEPCO and others knew core was in full melt down March 12, 2011 but said nothing till June. But never mind all that.
I will answer that question in terms of the original article this thread is discussing. When TEPCO a representative of nuclear industry states that they have found an unidentifiable gas within a plant suffering from multiple melt-downs, it is clear that TEPCO doesn’t understand everything that is going on. If they don’t understand what the gas is or how it is being formed then how can they reassure us that no explosion can happen?
Therefore I don’t trust TEPCO to resolve this situation as it is clear they don’t know whats going on themselves.
Irritated Kalifornian, if you trust the nuclear industry get a job in that industry and buy a house next to the oldest nuclear plant in California. Maybe you have already. Save some money for the pain-killers you will need later on in life.
God Bless
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@ Mark Then who do you trust to resolve the situation? Your answer was a cop out . I ask you again; If the NRC told you to evacuate would you trust them or assume they were lying to you? FYI according to another site the gas is hydrogen. Thanks for the suggestion about getting a job & I already live close to one of the older nuke plants
regards IK
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Irrational Kalifornian,I feel sillier and sillier answering your questions. This is the last one I’m answering. You use too many questions to state your underlying opinion. I live as far away from a nuclear reactor as I can. Which is to say I do not trust the nuclear industry. I do not trust the international nuclear industry, including the Chinese, American, Canadian, French and Japanese nuclear industry. A helluva way to boil water. Look up Boondoggle in any decent dictionary and you will have my opinion of the nuclear industry. However if I ever found myself close to a nuclear power station and was told to evacuate by the NRC of course I would evacuate but that won’t happen cause I don’t trust them when they tell me its safe. Good luck with your house.
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Mark, Why not mention the Russian nuclear industry and all the other countries who now have nuclear?
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“international nuclear industry, including the Chinese, American, Canadian, French and Japanese nuclear industry.” Sorry Anne I thought the above encompassed the whole global industry, Indian, Pakistani, Iranian etc. etc. Getting tired of placating an individual who offers criticism without citation. Not you Anne, talking about Irrational Irritating…whatever dude your both of those things and more. Would love to see a detailed explanation of why Tacoma (or myself) is wrong. I think Tacoma would be very happy to be shown she is wrong. I can’t speak for her but I certainly hope and pray she is wrong. Somebody explain to me why I shouldn’t worry about elevated radiation readings, MOX fuel, nuclear waste, Fukushima triple melt-down and crappy out dated American nuclear reactors built on flood plains and fault lines? Explain why I should trust anyone who would support this post war out dated tail-fin sci fi anti-life technology? Why should I even trust your nuclear payola grabbing president? Unfortunately those who do not share my opinion can only resort to name calling and rhetorical hyperbole. Not very scientific. Refuse to waste any more time on the subject.
God Bless All
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So there is a pipe in trouble but the real news is of course that they have to inject nitrogen into R1 to prevent that from blasting all in total.
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And, the hydrogen is created by the lining of the fuel rods burning and being exposed to the air. This means we have active meltdown occuring, we have to if the is hydrogen present. So GOOD NEWS EVERYBODY (in your best Professor Farnsworth)…
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GOOD NEWS EVERYBODY I bet you meant this professor! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_J._Farnsworth
Sooo funny! Mhoehahaaa
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Again just enough info released to calm the fearful but not going too far as to inform. Those reality tweets from the unhappy worker bees must be a nuisance to managements efforts to keep a lid on all the leaks. Where would we be without a free press? Harder to track down..
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if that thing went in one blow, then everyone all over the world will seriously have to worry about his own safety before it’s too late…
off topic but quite interesting there is a map about livable places in Japan
http://survivaljapan.wordpress.com/2011/09/24/japan-liveability-map-september-2011/
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lets get far away from nuclear http://signon.org/sign/increase-government-support.fb1?source=c.fb&r_by=548645
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Tepco lololol…
I had a Martha Stewart moment: I made hydrogen from scratch with two batteries, two paper clips, and a cup of salt water.
Making hydrogen gas is actually very easy. I first did it when I was probably 15, and it’s really hard to fail. Connect two wires to a 9V battery (cut the connector off an old toy or something, buy one at Radio Shack, or you can just bend paper clips around the terminals like I did), then stick the bare ends of the wire into a bowl of water and you’ll get bubbles of gas coming off both wires. One is oxygen, the other is hydrogen.
So easily of an explanation…
Salt water check.
battery check.
All systems go…
Only question…
Is this from fuel reaching the ground water?
Shaking the magic 8 ball…
Sources say yes.
Emmy.
Homemade hydrogen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SDpKXZ5FRU
http://periodictable.com/Stories/001.1/index.html
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Found this link on physics forums and look at all the data, one can see that something is going on in reactor 1
http://www.houseoffoust.com/reactors/graphs.html
May take a while to load.
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1700 kpa approx and they remove the gauge?? they also replace another gauge but no readings?? radiation is a high constant but hits highs of 400 sv/hr…. yep think there is a problem there! how can the pressure be building up like that in 1 ?? temperature goes down (or corium) and pressure goes up? and radiation stays the same…. hmmmm!!
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The drop could indicate when the pressure was released (meaning the date that the fuel left the pcv)… I.e. meltthrough…
Holes in the pcv would make a significant drop in pressure…
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you’ve been saying the same thing since the first time it broke 100 on the graph, and you have not been right once…so why do you keep repeating the same thing?
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As have you…
Yet you time and time again have not provided any data or significant analysis to dispute what I have said all along…
So its a mystery…
I know I know your trying to stop information from harming users on this site, because you take it upon yourself to speak for the tragedy, and refuse to acknowledge every chart graph, temp rise and available resource at your disposal…
So can we just see your notes…
Cause if I am so wrong.
Pics or It didn’t happen…
Ive had enough of justifying myself to you when you clearly time and time again have provided no significant counter argument…
You have also displayed a lack of tack and enthusiasm. Though I have always responded in kind jesture…
Shame on you…
PICS DATA ANALYSIS..
Bring it or except the possibility.
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Tacoma….Prez O’Bama will be in Denver the 27th,
day after tomorrow…
folks are saying he will be sequestered
Cheyenne Mountain or Deep Denver Airport.
Military leaves cancelled for Fort Peterson AFB,
NORAD, Cheyenne Mountain, according to vids.
I drove to Tucson and back, I-10 the other day.
Besides the huge, wasteful “Border Patrol” occupation
of the Interstate-10 corridor (100-Mile-Buffer-Zone),
we saw lots of miltary-fatigued, unmarked humvees
and the smaller-type typical jeeps at the truck stop.
Just now, a squad of 5 choppers headed south over
the County. They are Hyping the “TERRORIST THREAT”
to New Yoke City, Hyping The White Supremacists as
the Domestic Threat, requiring Police-State Action!
So…the story adds up to my hope that You,
You, Tacoma, get up Off the Sound, inland to a place
where you have better survival chances. 27th Sept.
The Ten-Franc Swiss Note–astronomical diagram,
which miss B&B says was drawn by Euler way back when.
The Solar system has been known as mostly
predictable and chartable since way back then,,,,
Please get Off the Water, and away from the Volcano,
and to a defensible place….huggies.
Velikovsky was Right! Whatta Genius!
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“The Ten-Franc Swiss Note–astronomical diagram, which miss B&B says was drawn by Euler way back when.”
Elenin, I tried to explain to you before. The “diagram” (which isn’t one) on the note is NOT what Euler has drawn around 1760. His original drawing was re-designed by designers to look nice on that bank note! In his original drawing we see our solar system and a comet. NOTHING unusual here.
http://fuffologia.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/disegno_eulero.jpg
They used Euler’s drawing because he was Swiss. Those bank notes have been out of use since 1981.
I’m looking forward to Sept. 28th.
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Irradiated Californian
Sick of you attacking the good people here and taking the truth away from topic, changing subject you freaking shill whatever, Fukushima owns you are you know it, whoever is paying you will Goto hell and you too, admin needs to ban the shills an whatever else you call the losers
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you people are too much.
shill…
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“”flamable gas in pipe”"
…Did they hook up the Johnny on the Spots to the Nuclear Reactors?
Methane dummies…who farted
Fukushima gets weirder every day
Party like its 1999
red red wine
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And what if this Finnish guy was right in his theory and this gas is really methane? Remember him?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAUY-Y3Kiek
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That’s good stuff to consider, purewater….
They were hyping the frozen methane hydrates at
the sea-bottoms for a long time. There seems to be evidence
of some of these things the Finn speaks about. It’s a
weird world. “The Prince of the Powers of the Air” is one
of the titles of the Devil. This Powers of the Air seems to
include television, manipulation of electrical, electronic,
radio, lasers, microwaves, false images, holograms, telepathy
and such. HAARP and stuff. Navy high-powered sonar which
leaves dolphins and whales with destroyed inner-ear.
The Finnish Guy is well worth adding to one’s Collection
and discussion.
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Its occurred to me that most of the people here have already been irradiated.Having experienced certain symtoms in April to May.Most people including children in Japan, West coast US, Hawaii and Canada.Does that mean you are done, and these includes the so called elites and their children.I am thinking hollywood, microsoft in Washington state etc.Why didn’t anyone make a run for it..money and all??Even seemingly knowledgeable people stayed put.I mean THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE and no-one even moved.
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Zapped,…Yes. But, are the people being told their house is on fire? No, they are told the house is fine. Sure,..people should have enough ‘signs’ to know,….but they do not.
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Was sorry to hear about your parents and TMI issues StillJill.What got me was the timeline.I think that’s what had me assume that, it will take a long time before we actually get a perspective on this shit.
N’way at any rate yes the house is on fire…do you StillJill need to be told that and have you done anything towards protecting your own.If memory serves you have family in the West coast..I could be wrong.My bestest wishes tho’.Thanks I am zapped.
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Thanks zapped. I do indeed have family out here on the left coast,…:-) All of my family in fact, besides two Sisters in Ohio. Nowhere is safe,…I am coming to conclude. Some are safer,..NOW,…but that could change as quickly as the wind, jet stream, or the presence of rain or snow. I think TMI and Chernobyl are no longer accurate ‘yard sticks’ for us. The day I came to enenews,…I spend the day researching Chernobyl,…most specific to my inquiry, was, How long did Chernobyl last, stem to stern, before the sarrgopolis thingy was in place? My exhaustive research only got 9-11 weeks. Had FUKU been slowed down that much,…that quickly,…we could and should ‘compare’. This is less than ‘apples to oranges’-in comparing them together-IMO.
My family won’t listen. Never was there a more ignored messenger than me. Well, maybe Noah.
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If ever you have a little bit of money, please come visit Kenya in specific Masai Mara between July and October(wilderbeest migration).You will be welcome here.You will see, and you will enjoy..I was there and I enjoyed the break…I am not promoting anything..I tell this to all my Friends..its a lot of fun being with the animals.Put that on your bucket list..
I heard you on chernobyl..my research too gets me that conclusion…but shhhh.I do have family in the “right” coast.They think I am the devil…they said these shit is not on the news.And obviously they are right.Out of sight out of mind.At least they loved the trip to the mara..forget how stressed I was telling them about fuku.I am, zapped.
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The trend I expected, but not sure if it can work now was for people to evacuate..now going to 7 moons…are the planes even safe?Some of you might start questioning being anywhere close to Japanese nationals..am black for let me put it this way..the new niggers.You will not want to sit next to them on the bus,trains, dinars, planes and should you see one coming at you on the street you will dutiful cross to the other side.You will also forever wonder if the hotel room you occupying was ever slept in by a Japanese..true?And not sharing utensils..I see that coming.Don’t mean to hype this but someone’s got to say it.Lastly shame on all the personal attacks and bad language I keep seeing here.I felt so bad for GRACE.Very typical of amerikkkans..a slight variance in thought process and y’all go for attack mode.What’s wrong with you people.I am about 150km into the Northern Hemisphere from the equator..don’t know the consequence of that YET.
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So about a month or so ago I was at the equator.Now at 0(zero) degrees…if you drill a hole in a bucket the water goes down directly.One step into the North all the water goes down clockwise…one step south all the water goes anti-clockwise.It explains the wind patterns or circulation and that point small deviation from center.Lastly I see the consequences of Fuku manifesting ..oh maybe 7 to 20 yrs down the line.Not tomorrow or the next day after..(to no one in particular) so spare me the HATE.
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Sounds like a neat scene for the water trick, but the Coriolis Effect is not quite that precise though. If you can get it to do that you have heap big juju powers. *;-)
If the Coriolis Effect was that good then tornadoes would all spin the same way, but they don’t.
As for Michael Jackson he may not have been worried about the air so much as his nose falling off after one of his many touchups.
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And you know this from googling shit right? More power to you…you need to get out more!!just sayin’…try it some time smart ass merikkkan!!! juju you’re mama
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I note some typos on my diatribe ..acknowledged herewith with apologise…
Note to self..I wanna see the oligarchs(sp)/elites panic before I do..I breath the same air, drink the same water and eat same food as them..but I aint ending up in a bunker for their GREED.Let them have that..deformities and all!!!
FIRE!!!
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Hopefully lastly…I wanna see a Micheal Jackson moment when he came to Tanzania..oh..the guy was so panicked breathing our very fresh air..that he was spotting a face mask when he got off his plane..diseases anyone…such joy ..such irony.
And after y’all destroyed Libya..I must say I am enjoying this..why NOT??After all Japan was financing this all the way from Iraq..and do NOT say eye-raq…e-raq/iraq.Get it?
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Does anyone heard about any readings of hydrogen coming from the cracks around the plant ?
If it is escaping with radioactive steam ?
If and when it can no longer vent to surface, a re-critical could ignite it under tons of earth above it allowing it to compress in huge pockets to dangerous levels ?
If they are monitoring this, it may be no longer detectable or in low amounts, giving them indication that it may be building deep under the plant ?
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Makes me wonder especially since the crane at Unit 1 just went into standby mode yesterday at noon and didn’t move since. There were 5 hours of daylight left on a Monday and it just sat there. Tepco scared?
Forty seconds in on time lapse yesterday Crane 1 parks:
http://www.youtube.com/fuku1live#p/u/14/DRPNmQzVVG8
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Hydrogen check ordered at No.2, 3 reactors
*VIDEO*
Japan’s nuclear safety agency has instructed the operator of the stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant to check if hydrogen is building up in its No.2 and 3 reactors.
This is after the Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, recently detected hydrogen in a pipe leading to the …
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/26_02.html
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High level of radiation is making hydrogen from H2O
… Unbelievable story, but as our original schedule, we didn’t plan to check the presence of flammable gas. …
http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/09/breaking-news-high-level-of-radiation-is-making-hydrogen-from-h2o/
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