Units No. 1, 2, and 3 “have nuclear waste on the floor” from melted cores

Published: June 16th, 2011 at 2:14 pm ET
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Fukushima: It’s much worse than you think, Dahr Jamail, June 16, 2011:

[A licensed reactor operator with 39 years of nuclear power engineering
experience, managing and coordinating projects at 70 nuclear power
plants around the US, Arnold] Gundersen’s assessment of solving this crisis is grim.

“Units one through three have nuclear waste on the floor, the melted core, that has plutonium in it, and that has to be removed from the environment for hundreds of thousands of years,” he said. “Somehow, robotically, they will have to go in there and manage to put it in a container and store it for infinity, and that technology doesn’t exist. Nobody knows how to pick up the molten core from the floor, there is no solution available now for picking that up from the floor.”

Published: June 16th, 2011 at 2:14 pm ET
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56 comments to Units No. 1, 2, and 3 “have nuclear waste on the floor” from melted cores

  • AkDave AkDave

    Do you think? Was wondering when someone might say it. Dang! This is going to go on for ever.


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    • SteveMT

      That should say it the right way!”

      There are: CORES ON THE FLOOR!


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      • ocifferdave

        Yeah sometimes I dont even read the article just the headlines…shake head…and move on.


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        • kx kx

          being doing that a lot, all irony was used in the first 1 month, now is a pointless exercise, just emtomb the pandora box and get robots that can dismantle that shit, and the other diarrea in ukrain too and move to geothermal and those nuclear reactions that stop if no energy is supplied, yes thorium(if his as safe has promissed…) still geo thermal is really nicer one.


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    • lokay5 lokay5

      “It’s worse than you think”

      “Damage more severe than originally thought”

      Correction;

      “It’s worse than (we) thought”

      “Damage more severe than (we) originally thought”

      (we) does NOT include ME!


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  • Cindy

    I found this article ..

    http://rt.com/news/radioactive-strontium-plant-water/

    It states the lowest level that you can be exposed to that causes cancer is 12 Microseiverts per hour…


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    • Cindy

      The maximum acceptable dose for the public from any manmade facility is 1,000 microsieverts per year as set by the IAEA. The lowest annual dose that can cause cancer is 12 microsieverts per hour.


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  • bfly

    according to the tepco feed something is up with two right now.!


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  • bfly

    maybe just water condensation on camera?


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  • bfly

    It looks like steam!


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    • lowmoral

      My vote is steam also. The other days when the fog rolled in bldg 1 was not visible and no drops on lens.

      Today R2,3,4 are not viable and you have drops on lens. I am praying it is rain but my gut tell me no…


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  • CaliMom

    Yaaaay! More good news!


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  • Nobody said it a long time ago, he was looking and remembering Chernobyl as a clue !


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  • bfly

    One would think if its rain, one could see the water rings of drops hitting the sufaces.?


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  • Finch Finch

    For several decades the Computergame Industrie makes concepts of giant robots and Mechrobot/man units especially the designers from Japan and Korea are high on potential! So now, this should be the challenge to make them real. Everythink that is thinkable also is makeable. So go ahead and save that damned planet just as you are phantazising for such a long time!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcjaeGVDEy4


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  • bfly

    Interesting ,when the daybreaks, those puddles in the foreground should be a bit bigger from rain.My sarcastic side, thinks that green puddle near the brush ,has runoff from paint they sprayed on the bushes.


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  • Finch Finch

    WEll, additional, my son says, what Fukushima needs is a WBF ;-)


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    • Anthony Anthony

      Acronym Definition
      WBF World Bridge Federation
      WBF World Batch Forum
      WBF Windows Biometric Framework (Microsoft)
      WBF World Boxing Federation
      WBF World Bodybuilding Federation
      WBF Wood-Burning Fireplace
      WBF Water-Based Drilling Fluid
      WBF World Beat Festival (Salem, Oregon)
      WBF Washington Biotechnology Foundation
      WBF World Burn Foundation
      WBF Whitechapel Bell Foundry (London, England)
      WBF World Bowling Federation
      WBF Wet Blood Film

      ***Which one!?! ;)


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  • DuckNCover

    Rain…look at the other area cam’s, look at the wx forcast.


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  • fromtokyo

    everyday the news in the japanese media is:
    “working on cooling system”
    “areva test tomorrow”
    “planning to do blabla”
    “bla planned to do on xx”
    they pretend to have the situation under control and japanese people believe that the “work plan” is doing well.
    nothing folks
    need to talk to my boss. “losing everything” is still losing less than life…


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    • alasanon

      This is event is a life changer for us all!


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      • alasanon

        edit: This event is a drastic life changer for us all!!! (whether we realize it now or later)


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      • CaliMom

        Don’t worry about it. Everything’s under control. The government will protect us. Maybe we can get some of those Geiger counters to strap onto our grade schoolers here too! Oh, and I’ll have to stock up on long sleeved shirts for the kids. They say that will protect them from plutonium. Maybe a hat too…just in case.


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  • tony wilson

    you know folks i really think we should start making up an international list of pain.
    a reckoning list elizabethan style if you will.
    with the names of the guilty.
    the guilt of words and lies and deeds.
    the guilt of silence and Disinformation.
    journalists,scientists,specialists,hacks and pr and mit types.
    a little list of names that should feel some pain, before the day is done.


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    • CaliMom

      #1: Everyone at Tepco


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    • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

      #2:Everyone and anyone that has provided disinformation to “not panic the masses”, including my prez, the man I voted for cuz I had hope, and wanted change, the Irishman, Barrack O’bama.
      Who’s next?


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      • Anthony Anthony

        #3: Whomever gave the approval to dump millions of gallons of radiated seawater into the Beautiful Pacific Ocean. The Pacific was a precious resource and environment for many global citizens and creatures. It is also home to countless sea-life.


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  • bfly

    I would say ok all that water is rain.but, when you look at blue skies through the other feed. its throughly confusing?


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  • Finch Finch

    They are absolutely headless. Since the 11th of March. They have no abilty to do something because they do not know what is going on. Technically they do not have the abilities to think unhindered, consequent and logical. All they do is to suppress reality by a training of thousands of generations into their subconsciousness, where it blossoms in weird and strange phantasies the capitalize in computer animations or even darker phantasies. This is where Godzilla will arise, the monster out of the suppressed contents of their consciousness. You can decide to think happy as much as you want, the monster you created lives in the basement of your house, out of the reach of your everyday mind.


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  • DuckNCover

    Do you mean the JNN/TBS Cam feed? I just have a blue screen…no image.


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  • A.D.E.

    how come the tbs cam is almost always nothing but blue color and sounds?


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  • A.D.E.

    it’s “the bluescreen of death” i guess


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  • Finch Finch

    * Please be noted that video pictures will not be available from 9:00 am to
    11:00 am on June 19 (planned), due to switching power.
    written under the TEPCO webcam. What are they planning for June 19th???


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  • bfly

    yes, it is plain that there are two types of weather. although the tbs feed is blurry.


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  • Terranigma1 Terranigma1

    Fort Calhoun NUCLEAR BLACKOUT!! —

    If this news source is to be believed …

    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1493.htm


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  • Anthony Anthony

    Stability at Fukushima nuclear plant months away-NRC
    ROCKVILLE, Md., June 15 | Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:48am EDT

    (Reuters) – Conditions at Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant continue to improve, but full stability is still several months away, said Bill Borchardt, head of operations for the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission on Wednesday. (Reporting by Roberta Rampton)
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/15/usa-nuclear-fukushima-idUSWNA104120110615?feedType=RSS&feedName=hotStocksNews


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  • Anthony Anthony

    Watchdog says top U.S. nuclear cop “ruling by intimidation”
    By Roberta Rampton

    WASHINGTON | Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:06pm EDT

    (Reuters) – The head of the U.S. nuclear safety regulator loses his temper and uses threats and intimidation to try to get his way, the agency’s own independent watchdog said in a report.

    The report paints a picture of a toxic work environment at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission at a time when the agency is working through whether it needs to change rules and oversee any expansion of the nuclear industry in the wake of the disaster at Japan’s Fukushima plant.

    Gregory Jaczko, appointed by President Barack Obama to lead the NRC, did not break the law in his actions on one of the most controversial policy issues the NRC has faced — what to do about a nuclear dump proposed for Yucca Mountain, Nevada, said Inspector General Hubert Bell in a 46-page report.

    But Jaczko “strategically provided … varying amounts of information” to the four other commissioners who helm the agency,” the report said.

    Jaczko “withholds information to the commission by either suppressing papers or manipulating the agenda planning process,” commissioners’ staff told the IG, and “often yelled at people,” according to a former chairman.

    “Chairman Jaczko acknowledges that he sometimes loses his temper. He said he worked to control it and there are times when he has wished he has said or done things differently,” the report said.

    Asked for comment on the interpersonal problems described in the report, Jaczko said through a spokesman:

    “I believe very passionately and strongly in nuclear safety and I take that responsibility very seriously. I hold people to a high standard.”

    SHIMKUS – “CALCULATING AND POLITICAL”

    The Inspector General’s seven-month investigation began after complaints that Jaczko had exceeded his authority in closing down the NRC’s technical review of the Yucca dump.

    The U.S. Congress passed a law in 1987 promising to bury waste from the nation’s 104 nuclear reactors deep inside Yucca Mountain. But the issue has been fought in courts and in Washington by Nevadans who fear the dump could pollute water and hurt tourism.

    The Obama administration killed the Yucca proposal after taking office. Before his appointment to the five-member commission, Jaczko was a top aide to Nevada senator Harry Reid, a senior Democrat and the top political opponent of the site.

    Before the report was made public, Jaczko said the inspector general had cleared his actions, adding that he hoped the report would settle this matter.

    Instead, the findings give new fuel to Republican lawmakers who want to revive Yucca.

    “The report reveals a calculating and political NRC chairman who has abused his authority, who sought to suppress scientific reports and withhold information from fellow commissioners — strategically working to rig the system in a no holds barred effort to derail the Yucca Mountain repository,” said Representative John Shimkus, an Illinois Republican.

    Shimkus, a top member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, is holding a hearing on Tuesday with the NRC’s inspector general.

    A top congressional watchdog also promised more scrutiny.

    “The NRC Inspector General’s report paints an embarrassing picture of a bully whose use of deceit and manipulation is ruining the integrity of a respected independent regulatory agency,” said Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight Committee.

    But the senior Democrat on the House Energy committee said the report vindicates Jaczko from a Republican “witch-hunt.”

    “While the nuclear industry and their allies in Congress may be frustrated that Yucca Mountain has not opened, the fact is that Secretary (Steven) Chu, not Chairman Jaczko, made the decision to close it,” said Edward Markey.

    (Editing by Paul Simao and Jim Marshall)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/10/us-usa-nuclear-waste-idUSTRE7590SV20110610


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  • I have posted a new video proving that Tepco webcam is rigged. This one is longer and with better view of the huge crane.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8W4Cc79YG4


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  • petfish

    thank you enenews.

    i am troubled by the state of fukushima reactors/water seeping into the ground water spilling into the ocean. we are a heart beat away from a second larger than present release of radionuclides.
    no end in site.
    lets think of a way to capture the ions in solution other than zeolite. it could be the zeolite the french gave them? may not be suitable. or ions so hot that gum up filter.
    heres an idea: why not dope the zeolite with boron??
    heres is another idea: Make an boron-nitrogen polymer so as to chelate metal ions. how about a borate/hydrazine binary spray that will combine with metals and harden or precipitate.

    any ideas?


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