“Unsettling News”: There’s no way to fix it if salt cavern under sinkhole has failed, says state engineer — “There’s little that you can do”

Published: August 25th, 2012 at 5:15 pm ET
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Title: Gas-detecting plane will fly near sinkhole
Source: The Advocate
Author: DAVID J. MITCHELL
Date: August 25, 2012

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residents also received some unsettling news as well.

Michel Cernuska, 36, of Brule St. Martin, asked DNR officials what was being considered by the science advisory group to fix the cavern or its well casing if either has had a failure.

“If it’s as simple as a casing, yes (it can be fixed). If it’s a cavern fracture, failure, whatever, there’s little that you can do,” said Chris Knotts, a civil engineer with DNR who is coordinating the science group studying the sinkhole.

A low but audible rumble in the crowd followed that statement.

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Published: August 25th, 2012 at 5:15 pm ET
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16 comments to “Unsettling News”: There’s no way to fix it if salt cavern under sinkhole has failed, says state engineer — “There’s little that you can do”

  • dosdos dosdos

    Sort of like Fukushima. How are you going to fix a large crumbling salt cave full of fracking sludge?


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  • markww markww

    Seal the cavern with quick set foam and cap top with quick set light concrete


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  • "A low but audible rumble in the crowd followed that statement."

    When will the 'rumble' turn to a 'roar'?


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  • Michele

    I doubt that anyone is surprised by the lack of common sense that made use of a salt cavern to store petroleum and non-natural nuclear debris. Not only is this sinkhole on the New Madras fault line, the oil and gas lines are crisscrossing the fault as it disperses the petroleum products across the US, the danger is still there with the massive storage of liquid butane, and the added complication in the mix, is that hurricane Issac most probably will do damage in that part of the gulf states.


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    Quote from full article:
    Cernuska also asked about the “oxymoronic” evacuation order in light of DEQ and DHH are saying people’s health is not at risk.

    Elevated levels of radioactive elements found at Louisiana sinkhole site
    CLICK>>>http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/08/25/bayou-corne-sinkhole-radiation-rias/

    Hmmm……..
    There’s no way to fix it.
    (What a way to get a giant swimming hole)

    Elevated levels of radiation.
    No risk to health
    (Instead it will probably kill you).

    Don't worry.
    Smile.
    (I think that's what they told the people in Japan.
    BTW..It hasn't worked.)

    There are always Hurricanes (like Isaac) to spread it around.
    I wouldn't drink the water, breathe, or eat there.
    All coming soon to your town.


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  • arclight arclight

    my heart goes out to my american brethren
    they are using medical dose safety for this unmedical situation!

    i suppose there may be europeans living near this disaster zone too! and if you have a european passport you can fill in this petition and it needs to be
    received by 31 august 2012
    details here

    TIME TO STOP THIS CRUEL MADNESS NOW!
    http://nuclear-news.net/2012/08/25/time-to-stop-this-cruel-madness-now/


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  • dosdos dosdos

    The big issue is fracking sludge. Fracking compounds are designed to chemically fracture rock strata such as shale, and the sludge they extract from the wells should never be stored in salt formations, as it does a quick job of melting salt, as well as any unstable wall of a salt dome.

    Yet the environmental laws passed by the Bush administration, under the guidance of Chenney, insure that no one will be punished for dumping sludge into salt caverns. Even if the sinkhole expands and swallows the neighboring communities, there is nothing anyone can do legally to get compensation.

    The catch is that when companies gain mineral rights to extract minerals from underground, they also gain the right to insert anything they like when they are done extracting, including fracking sludge. The only permission they need is to insert anything radioactive, should the sludge have released any natural radioactive materials along with it from the original extraction site. And Texas Brine got that permission.

    The fact that Texas Brine had sealed off the well they used to insert the sludge into the cavern shows that they knew there were structural problems when they stopped extracting brine from the salt dome. They dumped the sludge and capped and sealed the well.

    Now we have a toxic sink hole, and no one is legally liable. Just another legal fracking incident. And what scares me is that Romney wants to remove all environmental liabilities that remain for fracking.


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  • Sickputer

    Kind of makes you wonder how much radioactivity is released from the fracked natural gas burned in electric power plants? The sludge is radioactive, so what about the gas?

    Maybe we have our own version of Japanese incinerators on a much larger scale.

    Operation Plowshare was a bust due to intense radioactive leaching. Frackers use cesium-137 on their drilling bits. I posted the URL for a photo of an on-line ad for such a bit here on Enenews last year. I bet those ads are no longer online.


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  • dodge

    dosdos: I have to hope that you are wrong, but I don't think so… If indeed, the fracking compounds are causing this problem and it is the salt dome itself which has failed, the we don't need to worry much about this situation, it is just the tip of the iceberg, and we will soon have many more serious issues to address. Wonder if it will cut into the profit, if we have to attempt to recover these compounds and treat them rather than leave them to destroy the environment where we have so cleverly hidden them from view? Perhaps it is time for a national energy policy — which moves us toward sustainability, conservation, and renewal sources.


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    No one should have been injecting salt domes with anything.
    Makes No Sense!!!! What's wrong with these people in charge???

    You can't sweep things under the carpet, eventually they come to the surface.

    They made a problem into a bigger problem, that can't be fixed, and they aren't even liable for it?!?!?

    How many countries allow this, or maybe I should be asking how many don't allow this (maybe a shorter list).


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  • Anonymouse

    Do you understand how big this is?
    THIS CAVERN HOLDS OVER 80 MILLION GALLONS OF BUTANE!

    A barrel is 55 gallons.
    1.5 M x 55=82.5M

    BTW,
    there just as much propane there ALSO.

    I was just told that there are 15 nuclear power plants built on the New Madrid fault line.
    Why is that?

    Did all the "smart people" decide that?


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