Published: May 19th, 2011 at 7:59 pm ET
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Humidity, heat, radiation in reactor buildings, NHK, May 20, 2011:
[...] As for the No. 3 reactor building, the utility says they may have to find another way to inject nitrogen and also shield staff from the radiation in order to work inside.
These difficulties may affect the company’s road map to stabilize the reactors.
See also: TEPCO says it’s “difficult” to start injecting nitrogen needed to prevent blast at Reactor No. 3
Workers enter No.3 reactor, NHK, May 19, 2011:
[...] The utility says it would be difficult to start work on injecting nitrogen gas needed to prevent a hydrogen blast into the containment vessel under such high radiation levels. [...]
Published: May 19th, 2011 at 7:59 pm ET
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well, Thats a peice of good news..
This video has been released to the news media, on fukushima, was posted on Yahoo news.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/devastation-inside-fukushima-nuclear-plant-25269296
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Not much said about the problems !
The rest of the world may see some broke buildings as they see from tornadoes, tsunami, and fires but not understand the danger that exist for all world wide !
No comment section !
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I agree – needs a Comments section. News should not be passive absorption but active engagement.
That’s why this site is so effective and popular.
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DID ANYONE NOTICE?????
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IF BORON IS STOPPING THE FISSION> THE CORE PRESSURE AND TEMP WOULDN’T CLIMB<
HENCE BORON IS INDEED FAILING!!!!!
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Question for you tacoma,
Why isn’t it a relativity simple matter to simply add more boron to reset the neutron-absorption clock and in this way buy some more time?
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Ok… BUDDY But im only gonna explain it one more time..
In short->
The failing boron that is already present in the rpv bio accumulates in addition to the salt inside the reactor, as a barrier separating the fuel from the active boron…
Not only that…
The longer the fuel is molting, the larger mass it gains. Thus the amount of neutrons attempting to start the chain reaction increases Making the failing boron even less effective.
Even worse, tepco only has roughly 400 – 800 ton’s of boron on hand… So when making a move from 3 – 15 tons of water in one reactor alone is a real indicator that the supply of boron is growing limited as well…
A. Not stabilizing fuel
B. Having less effect.
C. almost not a viable option, due to limited quantity.
This means there will be no cage holding back the lion…
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Please read this decay heat analysis
Decay heat starts at about 7% of fission heat and falls from there. A while back they estimated the current heat was at the equivalent of 1 to 2 million Watts which fits my calculations. It takes quite a bit of water flow to remove that much heat. It is not a sign of fission. Reports said more boron in on the way, they’ll use it as needed to prevent fission.
Here is some very rough math (estimate is based only on Iodine 131 decay which is a major fast component, slower products give off much less heat).
1250 MW thermal (850 MW electrical) before shut down energy produced – rated power.
400 MW waste heat when running (mostly to ocean)
87.5 MW decay heat day zero (7% after shut down)
43.8 MW decay heat day 8
21.9 MW decay heat day 16
10.9 MW decay heat day 24
5.5 MW decay heat day 32
2.7 MW decay heat day 40
1.4 MW decay heat day 48
This estimate will be off somewhat, but it should give people the general idea of what to expect. The longer since fission, the easier cooling gets. It still takes quite a bit of water. If the fuel were still intact it could be moved to a fuel pond within months. Most of the fuel in the pond gives off far lower heat, with the most recently added giving off the most.
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Yes, The video does need a commentator, but at least it’s something … first thing on yahoo news in weeks …
I’m most concerned with the ground water contamination in Japan !!
It really is a long way from there to the Mainland of the U.S.
It’s Japan who will have the most health risks so far , from this …
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ground water contamination was talk much about very early on and week or so later it became news as people started to report contaminations !
Before Most all water talk was about the sea water being contaminated from run off !
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“It really is a long way from there to the Mainland of the U.S”
Look in stories here about the contaminations in the Mainland of the U.S from Japan !
TOP OF PAGE
Food Rain Water Tap Water Soil Air Pacific West Coast
It’s been here, still here and more comming !
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There are already significant health risks for those in the USA (risks that are growing daily) from the large amounts of radioactive fallout that has been flowing (and landing) all over the country. Even Europe has been getting enough to be of concern. These facts are clearly shown by a variety of data:
http://globalcooperative.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/lies-from-every-official-mouthpiece/ (discusses build-up of cesium-137 in the USA and projects the surface levels by end of 2011)
http://globalcooperative.wordpress.com/2011/05/07/radioactive-weather-update/ (looks at cesium-137 fallout maps for the northern hemisphere as well as airborne radiation maps for the USA)
http://globalcooperative.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/radiation-storm-continues-as-data-is-suppressed/ (another look at airborne radiation maps for the USA, this time covering the second week of May)
http://globalcooperative.wordpress.com/2011/05/14/reactors-in-meltdown-as-private-forecasts-continue/ (further investigation of the public vs private airborne radiation maps from Norway)
http://globalcooperative.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/radiation-map-analysis-europe-australasia/ (analysis of airborne radiation maps for Europe and Australasia)
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The use of Nitrogen for food Storage
Prep Update
Purchased two food grade air tight storage containers to store from COSTCO. They stack and have screw in, rotating lids. Looked ideal for longer term grain storage.
Testing them now, will buy more. It allows the grain or food to be accessed while still in a stack. Very convenient, and pest proof.
This article reminds me to obtain a nitrogen tank to stabilize and preserve the food from oxidation. I must look into it.
Air Quality Report
The filter screen installation will continue this weekend. The thirty 36 inch screens will be next. Smaller screens done. Dust reduction is pronounced and pleasing.
Room HEPA quality air purifer operating in one room 24 hrs. Interesting, room feels cooler due to wind chill factor, air in constant motion. Two medical grade HEPA on way.
Water Quality Progress
Finally got the last part to upgrade the kitchen RO to 100 gallon per day production. Working on this now.
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Noah-sorry, you may have answered this before?
Do those screens help when you have the doors or windows open? Is that the purpose?
I haven’t been keeping the windows open.
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Inhalation of Radioactive Particles
The greatest short term danger presented by the Fukushima nuclear volcano, is radioactive particles that randomly float about attached to dust particles, water droplets etc. They are highly charged, and have “static cling”.
Dust control is the name of the game in reducing the possibility of inhalation. There is no safer way to keep dust (and the radioactive particles that cling to them), out of the home, than to shut your windows.
When away from home shut your windows.
Seal off unused windows, with blue painters tape and plastic sheeting to prevent dust infiltration.
When you are not using a room, shut your windows. Look for any way to decrease dust in the home.
In tropical environments, and southern states, temperature is problematic and some ventilation is needed.
This is where opening a window or two for ventilation is important, during sleep or work or cooking. This is where the PollenTec product that I have installed comes in, and yes we have installed it to keep a limited number of windows opened. Two of the smaller sliding windows that are opened by 7 inches, are double filtered with PollenTec screens and also Safeguard Window Filters, which fit into the internal window track and allows the window to slide shut against it. We have security grills over these windows that are left open, for safety at night.
Also, when I receive my TRACS medical grade HEPA air purification units, I will be running them 24/7. Air quality is a concern in the new permanently radioactive environment, because the fallout never stops coming. It is now a MAD MAX world. Our efforts must be constant.
The TRACS units have been certified at ZERO particulate outflow by laser particulate survey meters. An impressive performance.
Safeguard window filters are manufactured by REP industires, In of Lansdale, PA.
http://www.repindustries.com
Dust has been remarkably less since installing PollenTec. PollenTec carries an electrostatic charge which draws the dust particle onto the screening material, instead of passing through into the house.
No protective measure can stop the possibility of inhalation, but it can reduce that probability.
The cost of PollenTec & HEPA air purification is initially high, but the cost of inhalation of radioactive particles carries the higher price.
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I buy millet as a whole organic grain in bulk and other grains and have successfully stored them for many years in a freezer. They still sprout when thawed out and never any trouble with pests, etc.
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Just a quick example of why you should not believe everything you read:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20266-how-josef-oehmens-advice-on-fukushima-went-viral.html?full=true
But Oehmen’s predictions regarding radiation leakage have been cut. His original assertion that “there was and will *not* be any significant release of radioactivity from the damaged Japanese reactors” was bold even at the time he was writing – and has since proved incorrect. For anyone in and around the Fukushima reactors, the radiation is certainly “significant” – although nuclear experts have repeatedly stated Fukushima will not be another Chernobyl.
Josef,
A simple “I was wrong” would help.
Or perhaps, a little goading from a mere Math Honours major might help:
Josef, You were wrong.
Now put your education to good use and help us figure this mess out!
Cheers,
b.
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DID ANYONE NOTICE?????
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IF BORON IS STOPPING THE FISSION> THE CORE PRESSURE AND TEMP WOULDN’T CLIMB<
HENCE BORON IS INDEED FAILING!!!!!
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Maybe TEPCO is failing at injecting boron, not the boron itself is failing in doing its job. How do you consider that?
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because boron isnt stopping the fission. It (boron) has been reported to have been increased in injections as the reactor is heating
also the reactor does not heat up…
the fission heats up
so the boron is failing
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the presence of hydrogen means that the rods were in a state known as “annealing”, meaning the zirconium present in the external coating of the rods is violently reacting against oxygen. Oxygen could only be present in the event the fuel temperatures had risen above boiling point…. The reason that the fuel is rising thermally is due to the process of fission taking place… Meaning the fuel cells are not contained properly in a closed cooling system, so they want to light up and create that 500k megawatts of electricity.
So in short uncontrolled fission taking place inside the zirconium cells, lead to a temperature spike inside the core fuel cells to reactor 1. Once the heat reached beyond boiling point the tops of the fuel rods were exposed to the now present oxygen. Creating a violent reaction damaging the rods… This allowed the nuclear fuel pellets to escape their containment, dropping to the bottom of the reactor core. At that point Tepco then had no choice but to induce nitrogen into the reactor (as the melting of zirconium creates vast amounts of hydrogen)…
While the nitrogen settled the hydrogen the remaining fuel collected in the bottom of the reactor, creating so much fission the fuel melted through 6 feet of metal and concrete landing in the reactors basement. Now were playing a dangerous waiting game. The GE reactor design has an emergency platform designed under the reactors containment in the event a meltdown was to occur, that feature was built to not only prolong a meltdown but also prevent fission as best it can…
However, with the fuel heating up, you must consider that the water being implored with high levels of boron are doing little to nothing to prevent the fission from occuring… That being said, Its only going to be a short amount of time before the fuel likely surpasses the emergency system, and makes its way into the water table. After that happens, soil and water will produce steam clouds that will contaminate vast areas of the planet… =ing the evacuation of the site… Game Over.
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happened with 1 and it will happen with 3…
sorry its a copy paste from an earlier post…
But I had to come online and say.
this is very very bad
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@xdrfox..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/17/texas-drought-wildfires_n_863310.html
Check these Texas fires..
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A very wise anomynous person stated at the beginning of this foolishness that GE had enough cadmium rods to drop onto the obviously melting cores and disturbed fuel rods, to end it in a weekend.signed sealed delivered. the remediation industry is salivating as we speak . just look up water treatments for nuclear spills and there are several co. based out of L.A. where are they now? where are the executive orders from the top to take care of this threat?
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Good point.
I have the impression they are awaiting some sign the situation is under control.
I would like to know about the status of US military personel stationed in Japan.
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I read that France has already negotiated the clean up deal.
That is why Sarkosy went to Japan?
Is this all true?
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I only read about a French water decontamination system that some rate as only partial.
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just another day at the amusement park
night emmy
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#5 and #6 will blast very soon, now I am convinced. Tacomagroove was right on this.
And this will be THE DAY. Everybody in the world will say WHAT? Why #5 or #6? This will be the first your real panic. And the last panic of humanity.
The world, in very short time, will come through panic-buying, money systems not functioning, chaos, looting, martial law.
The blame will be shifted on Japan. Everybody will be hating japanese, this is natural instinct. And world bankers as usual will get away. This is mafia tactic and they have learned it well. Forget the puppet governments, they are corrupt to the core. By the way bankers don’t love their children. This is why they don’t care what will hapen to life on earth.
MSM blocade of news from Japan is actually very simple to understand. It’s trivial. Japanese government asked world governments to cooperate and not allow “radiation rumours” to spread because “it hurts Japan economy”. Who would question such request, having seen tsunami devastation.
But remember what I will say now. Try to understand how the world works and who are the people really to blame. Because when you’ll know you’ll soon die, you’ll go hunting.
your, Mark V
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Mark how will they get away from this one?
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They have the drugs to protect against exposure, but none of us sheeple will be able to get it.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/03/16/ex-rad-militarys-radiation-wonder-drug/
When the flu scare HIN1 or whatever, the employees of goldman sachs got vaccinated before most citizens.
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“This will be the first your real panic.”
Mark, I’d bet you ten bucks if 5 & 6 go, they will still be able to spin in past the masses. They sat on their duffs and watched four go and look at any of us like we’re crazy. Hey, football’s around the corner, Go Steelers! But those of us already savvy, we’ll shift into high gear.
“Is there some reason you’re buying all this canned salmon, sir, you’ve emptied our shelves.”
“Yeah, my cat really likes it.”
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Who knows, there always is a hope. This is why we use whatever means available : talent, information, irony, sarcasm, and all the positive emotions and feelings to try to avert the worst case scenario. If we were wrong, it will be a win.
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Mark V
I have never prayed for so many people to be wrong in my life.
And yes.
Is there anything at all in the human spirit, the goodness, courage and intelligence that could avert this global tragedy? Have the millennia of human fighting for survival all been in vain?
And if we are to become extinct, how do we want to be remembered? Will there by some miracle be a rebirth of the species, and some future on or off planet historians and anthropologists examine our demise? What will they think of us?
Crazy thoughts for crazy times.
Cassie
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Cassie, please understand, I write also for other people who visit here and have been in the dark all this time. So many still need to be shocked a little to start thinking. You can stay calm now, once you have the best information available. And you know, I feel that there are many beautiful experiences ahead for all of us. But the initial post remains in power, I believe this is very likely scenario.
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Yes Mark I understand.
Thanks.
Cassie
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Japanese Economy Collapses: Q1 GDP Drops At Double Consensus Rate, Epic Nominal Plunge Of -5.2%
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/japanese-economy-collapses-q1-gdp-drops-double-consensus-rate-epic-nominal-plunge-52
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Hi Cassie
Shift blame on japanese nation. “Thy were hiding truth about severity of the situation”. In fact they didn’t hide anything, it’s a matter of culture. How unfortunate all those coincidences are.
But then again, maybe it’s what we deserve. Westen world is rotten. This is why I live in eastern EU. After finishing the USSR in 1991 I could go anywhere, or be in high ranks. But I live simple life with people whom love and trust.
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Yes so many planets lined up to make the perfect storm.
And yes karma time for all.
Peace to you and yours.
Cassie
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Thanks Cassie. To say I wish you the same could imply I cease trying. Which I am not. By the way I feel like new family here, so many amazing people.
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Yes and yes
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The US and the UK ..and other European countries (LIKE NORWAY) are all complicit.
But the Japanese are doing their people a special favor.
GENOCIDE
http://truthisscary.com/?p=14052
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It would seem that what I keep saying is the case.
That even if we take a pass on this event, it is just a matter of time.
Greedy sociopathic corporations and corrupt politicians will make it difficult for humans to survive long term.
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To hell with them..try to remember “they are the enemy”..I’m off to info bomb a few sites.
Hope all do the same.
Each day has become more precious than the day before.
Learn to fight..and fight..don’t expect the “happy tone” to carry in the ball.
Prepare to be stomped on or ignored.
Get ‘em back…
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Go get ‘em Heart.
I will do what I can today as well.
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Solution = remove the ability of the ‘powers that be’ to influence world events by stopping financing their insane dreams. It starts with every knowledgeable individual removing her/himself _entirely_ from their grasp.
Paradigm shift. It’s up to each of us to find out how best to render the psychopaths running/ruining OUR world ineffective. After all, it is collective apathy that has got us all into this mess…
but then, tomorrow is Rapture Day… “Let God sort it out”
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If this does not result in a paradigm shift,
then there is nothing that ever will.
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Indeed, I’m a lean, mean, fighting machine!
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Information is our weapon..and I am sure this crowd can dish it…..
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joeb,
Was just thinking about THAT! I was wondering what was going to be COVERING the HUGE billboard down the street from me, announing in BOLD letters the day, May 21st, 2011-”The End of the World”, after the day comes and GOES.
And I do feel a little badly for the poor 89 y.o. man who truly believes this! My hat is off to him for the strength of his convictions, although, probably nothing else!
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That Jill IS so dumb. Why won’t she take the hint that we all think she is stupid?
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Because it is ENERGIZING!!!! I’m loving all the attention stupid Troll. Please keep it up!!! Please do more!!!! Please,…please???? Pretty please?
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@Bob Buin
troll
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Nurse Ratchet,get me a longer needle!
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Cassie, Heart, Mark V, all y’all…
It is such a trip to think of what we are leaving to the future.
For example…
the WIPP site in NM, Waste Isolation Pilot Plant, they were devoting
professional consultation dollars, thinktank consideration, to the
issue of How Best to leave some Danger Sign for the far future people
some thousands of years hence, anticipating that languages and culture
will radically change over time. The ideas of Scary Monster Faces, skull
and crossbones gouged deeply into some very resistant rock or
high-tech durable material, to warn future grave-robbers from
breaking into the nuke-waste vaults. Anticipating a Human Dark
age of lost knowledge and lost cultural memory, perhaps.
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Local company sends water test kits to aid Japan disaster victims
5/20/2011
Sara Denhart Courier Staff Writer
Two months ago, the world watched as an earthquake, a tsunami and a nuclear disaster hit Japan, leaving more than 24,000 people missing or dead and more than $300 billion in damage.
As the media coverage of the disaster has waned
http://madisoncourier.com/main.asp?FromHome=1&TypeID=1&ArticleID=63033&SectionID=178&SubSectionID=961
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The San Onofre nuclear generating station on the Southern California coast is at extremely low risk of a meltdown in an earthquake, federal regulators concluded in their first inspection report since the tsunami that badly damaged a nuclear plant in Japan.//
http://www.pe.com/ap_news/California/CA_Nuclear_Safety_San_Onofre_573547C.shtml
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Re-evaluating The Fukushima Nuclear Situation
http://www.npr.org/2011/05/20/136501152/re-evaluating-the-fukushima-nuclear-situation?ft=1&f=5
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Nobody’s forcing you to read any particular posts here.
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