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UPI: Web site of group that revealed plutonium-contaminated waste is stored above ground at Los Alamos “appeared hacked early Tuesday morning”

Published: June 28th, 2011 at 9:57 am ET
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Los Alamos evacuated as wildfire nears, UPI, June 28, 2011:

[...] The lab would not comment on a Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety allegation that the wildfire was about 3 miles from a nuclear dumpsite containing tens of thousands of 55-gallon drums of plutonium-contaminated waste.

The anti-nuclear watchdog group’s Web site appeared hacked early Tuesday morning, a United Press International check indicated. Its Facebook page had six messages from people alerting the group of the possible hacking, including a message commenting on the timing of the incident happening “just as the fires started.” [...]

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80 comments to UPI: Web site of group that revealed plutonium-contaminated waste is stored above ground at Los Alamos “appeared hacked early Tuesday morning”

  • Whoopie Whoopie
    June 28, 2011 at 10:09 am

    This morning they were HACKED? Who woulda thunk it. Geez. Just a minute ago enenews went to error – I thought “Not again!” Then YOU CAME BACK crystal clear. Thank God.


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  • ocifferdave ocifferdave
    June 28, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Web site of group that reveals the latest news about Fukushima Daichi nuclear plant disasters “appeared hacked early Friday evening”

    It’s game on. It really is.


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  • risabee risabee
    June 28, 2011 at 10:14 am

    This must have something to do with the politics-neutral impartiality of science, yes?


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  • Vigilance
    June 28, 2011 at 10:25 am

    Isn’t plutonium one of the deadliest substances on earth?

    Is it true that one pound of this stuff can kill everyone on the planet?

    Please correct me in my misassumptions…


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose
    June 28, 2011 at 10:26 am

    I’m so ashamed of the science community.
    I love science…a space race kid…the geology collection… the whole lot.
    Years ago …being in the science field meant a low paying teaching job and endless, thankless hours in the lab.
    Now ..there is a tremendous amount of money in the sciences.
    Universities and research groups jump through hoops for big government and private grants.
    As seen in the BP oil spill…this also buys falsifying results..hiding results..destroying results..and mouthing whatever they are told to say.
    Integrity in one’s work gone.
    Morality… as to the uses of new discoveries, etc…gone as well.
    It plays well to a society that has not kept up on scientific advances.
    Neutral impartiality …is no longer considered in the mighty halls of science.


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    • anne anne
      June 28, 2011 at 10:32 am

      In the 1940s the US was 1st in education in the world. Now we are 73rd.


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    • WindorSolarPlease
      June 28, 2011 at 10:47 am

      Someone stole this stuff? Is this what they are saying??

      If that is the case they would have had to know how to handle this.

      Isn’t this stuff watched with camera’s, alarms, and heavily guarded?

      They allow TSA to search us and yet they don’t watch the dangerous nuclear materials??? Makes no sense.

      What is more dangerous little old ladies or nuclear materials???


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    • cossack55
      June 28, 2011 at 10:47 am

      Nothing wrong with science. Much wrong with scientists. Be a man/woman of science, not a scientist.


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      • cossack55
        June 28, 2011 at 10:49 am

        BTW, if you like really dystopian novels, under current conditions I would recommend “The Last Gasp”. Mid 80′s I think. Forgot author. About $2 on Amazon used. I’ve read it three times, more like prophecy nowadays.


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        • risabee risabee
          June 28, 2011 at 11:09 am

          Okay, it’s self-promotion I know, but, c55, you might like:

          http://starvationridge.blogspot.com

          In progress. About six depressing chapters to go. I now realize it’s totally an impossible story line, because if we walk away from 450 nukes in a time of chaos we don’t get primitives with crossbows, we get nobody. Oh, well. Learn something every day.


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        • sickputer2 sickputer2
          June 28, 2011 at 11:31 am

          Another classic from 1959 (same age as On the Beach) is Pat Frank’s book Alas Babylon: shameless shill for amazon below as I have spent many a nickel there (but I always buy used):

          http://www.amazon.com/Alas-Babylon-Pat-Frank/dp/0060741872/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t

          My favorite scene (spoiler alert) don’t read below if you are a book purist:

          (the small town Florida hardware store guy gets so wrapped up ringing up panicked sales and selling supplies after the nuclear war that he forgets he needed tires himself! So he has some useless green “toilet paper” in his cash register.


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          • Whoopie Whoopie
            June 28, 2011 at 11:36 am

            I’ve been meaning to put OTB on reserve at the library. Thanks for that new one to order. Incredible how these people wrote about what we’re witnessing today. TY


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          • risabee risabee
            June 28, 2011 at 12:31 pm

            See also _The Earth Abides_ (same period).

            Is it time to mention http://www.survivalblog.com/ yet? I don’t share their “Alpha dog” YY-chromosome politics but everything else there is invaluable.

            Also, get these books — download and print out, free!

            http://www.hesperian.org/publications_download.php

            Oddly enough radiation seems to be the one thing not covered — but one of the effects of irradiating the whole world is that all the chapters they do have become pertinent — from setting bones to fighting cholera.

            If you want a whole library of this stuff, go here:

            http://www.cd3wd.com/cd3wd_40/cd3wd/index.htm

            It was built by the people that coalesced around E.F. Schumacher: the Intermediate Technology Development Group, now called Practical Action. It was, back in my day, a little tacklebox with 12,000 microfiche and a magnifying glass.

            Finally, John Michael Greer has launched a network for people to disseminate all this 70s collapse/resilience knowledge, unfortunately called Green Wizards (patchouli optional). http://www.greenwizards.org/ He cautions that there will likely NOT be an internet, and to print out things and master the practical skills in them.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose
    June 28, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Repost:
    This is some of what they do at Los Alamos.
    http://wn.com/Chemistry_and_Metallurgy_Research_Facility
    WEAPONS


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  • risabee risabee
    June 28, 2011 at 10:32 am

    In a money-only view of the world, only money counts. Ethics is an impediment. We have reached the point where the rich, simply by existing, are perhaps the greatest danger to humankind. I recommend an oldie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Is_Beautiful


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose
    June 28, 2011 at 10:45 am

    Plutonium “in situ”…how best to deal with Plutonium in the environment.
    Los Alamos guys…up to so much fun.
    http://esd.lbl.gov/research/projects/ersp/generalinfo/pi_meetings/PI_mtg_05/05_PI_Mtg_pdf/Neu_NABIR05_pres.pdf


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  • kirinseti
    June 28, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Learn from Chernobyl and survive.
    Learn from Revelations and survive.


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  • Whoopie Whoopie
    June 28, 2011 at 11:02 am

    WHAT NOW? I see so many depressed posters EVERYWHERE. What is the answer…or is there one? What IF enenews disappeared or HP or any site reporting the REAL NEWS? Any IDEAS?
    A Huffer just posted about Los Alamos Plant where he worked once:
    Lots of things have gone on outside, lots of things dumped on the ground. LANL’s lands are pretty contaminat­ed, and just having a fire burn up the contaminat­ed vegetation will lead to a significan­t radiologic­al release, even before the buildings and stored nuclear material come into play.
    This is going to end HORRIBLY.


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    • sickputer2 sickputer2
      June 28, 2011 at 11:51 am

      whoopie whoops: “WHAT NOW? I see so many depressed posters EVERYWHERE. What is the answer…or is there one?”

      Relax…sit back and enjoy every second you have in good health. Go get some Mongolian Barbecue while you have time, money is worth something and you have gas in your car. Get a few or many supplies and remember the movie The Road…another good one is Jason Robards in the 1983 flick The Day After. If you don’t have a gone-a-waya (Karnivore [deliberate sp] workaround for another word) then get one. You should band together with relatives and friends and do what your instincts tell you to do. When the sh#t hits the fan your disbelieving relatives will come flocking and somebody is going to have to step up and be the leader. I will be that person in my family and we already have a rallying point. When Internet and phones are down it is too late for getting in touch and that location is the only thing that matters…plus some extra gas containers, and good tires. Good luck.


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  • Whoopie Whoopie
    June 28, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Is There A Real Nuclear Need In Japan? TEPCO Annual Shareholders Meeting – Longest In Utility History As Shareholders Demand Answers
    http://news.lucaswhitefieldhixson.com/2011/06/tepco-annual-shareholders-meeting.html
    Great recap of meeting – Videos


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  • Finch Finch
    June 28, 2011 at 11:08 am

    What did you expect? If a company is paying for the new wing in University, let`s say, a company for cosmetics on a University named H…..d and they are doing research on dermatology, what do you think they will find out? Dry out public centers, public schools, public libraries and make debts for education of your not yet born kids; well that’s where it ends up. Don’t blame science, blame it’s connection with money. Nowadays grown up people asking for freedom have no education and mix up pseudo-shaman esoteric stuff with sciences! They have four molten cores down there in Japan, but we can’t stop them, simply get lost in our lamentations and selfishness! Serious: we are aware of having fear of the radiation from Fukushima, which is THERE? What about the Japanese? They have to live with a real thread, not an imagined thread. Wake up and get out of your tiny nutshells, you wanna be taken serious, by whom? They laugh on us.


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  • Finch Finch
    June 28, 2011 at 11:09 am

    And who knows who the shareholders of Shiseido are, maybe TEPCO buddies.


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  • Stacy
    June 28, 2011 at 11:20 am

    I actually thought this site did get hacked…and then blocked. Personally, I could not find the site anywhere the other day for a couple hours. That was on Sunday and it completely blew me away. *It was NOT my computer, but I was blocked from seeing this site. My husband is in software and knew it was not anything with our end of things, rather something either w/ enews or somewhere in between. As quick as the site “went away” was as quick as it returned. No warning either way, not statement on the screen….just gone.


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  • Vigilance
    June 28, 2011 at 11:20 am

    http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com

    it’s time we redesign our world together.

    1. intelligent management of earths’ resources

    2. to arrive at decisions using the scientific method instead of incompetent politicians “making” self-interested opinion based decisions

    3. declare the earth as one organism

    4. Use renewable energy resources such as solar wind power geothermal tidal etc

    5. abolish the monetary system

    Watch recent documentary Zeitgeist | Moving Forward on YouTube if you are interested!


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  • alasanon
    June 28, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    That’s actually pretty avant garde for a newswire to run that story with that choice of language and intonation!!… Unreal.

    I know someone who was a Bureau Chief at UPI many years ago. He’s old school- lots of integrity & generally fearless. Go UPI!!


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  • moonkai
    June 28, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Hate to be the bearer of “potential” bad news, but if things come to worse, the first thing that will be taken down is the internet … it will destabilize us all. What we need is a frequency radio … and a leader … cause clearly, the war is on! Let’s fight back now by preparing ourselves. And if things get better, we will all be fools and we will have a good laugh about it !


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    • sickputer2 sickputer2
      June 28, 2011 at 12:15 pm

      Got a cousin in another state and he is big on ham radio…wish I was up on them, but it may not matter when push comes to shove…technology will the first thing that becomes useless in favor of many other age old necessities more reliable.


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    • Savvy
      June 28, 2011 at 1:26 pm

      Yep, agree with you that taking precautions in advance is very much worth the “risk” of feeling a fool if nothing so bad actually happens! I’ve worked with the Internet since early 1995 (within 3 months of its “inception” in Nov 1994) and seen it go through significant changes in that time, as has anyone who has had a long involvement with the ‘net.

      Originally, it was an incredible medium to share any and all information with great ease. The ultimate human “knowledge bank” where all can freely learn about any issue. And anyone with their eyes open has been very disturbed about the consistent and powerful movement of corporations into the online realm. Fast forward a decade and a half from the inception of the Internet in the mid-1990s and what do we see? The corporations have done what corporations do: take over.

      Now the Internet is flashing ads everywhere, superficial nonsense clogging every screen, absurdity and foolishness being written and sold as “truth” by the usual “mouthpieces”, “filtered” search results (thanks to G-o-o-gle et al) that hide the real facts/truth of any matter as much as possible, by pushing articles full of propaganda to the top of the search results (while completely removing results to the most “contentious” material about political realities on planet Earth), and on and on and on.

      So, the Internet is on the verge of being turned into a cable TV style system by the corporate players. Google wants this totally controlled version of the Internet (recent news articles state this clearly), as do all the usual MSM companies that now own basically all ISPs. When such a powerful consortium of companies want a cable TV style Internet where you can only visit “approved” sites at a fast speed, with “unapproved” sites either being blocked entirely or significantly slowed in speed to make them effectively useless.


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      • Savvy
        June 28, 2011 at 1:28 pm

        (unfinished sentence above)

        When such a powerful consortium of companies want a cable TV style Internet where you can only visit “approved” sites at a fast speed, with “unapproved” sites either being blocked entirely or significantly slowed in speed to make them effectively useless, then you know that this is going to happen at some point before too long.


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    • Savvy
      June 28, 2011 at 1:36 pm

      IPv6 (the replacement for IPv4 – the current unique number system for an Internet server, eg. enenews.com = 98.158.182.89) is part of every new operating system (from both Micro$oft and the Bad-Apple) and it is evidently the “system within a system” that will be unveiled by the global powers at the time of their choosing – and that time could well be very soon.

      Here’s a couple of key quotes about IPv6 to consider:

      http://www.bayberryconsult.com/renumbering-internet-ipv6-means-business-innovation/

      “IPv6 gives the capacity for almost anything to be networked. Every device in your house including your television, light switches, electricity meter and fridge could all provide data over the internet and be controlled remotely.

      …

      “To enable this super-networked world a new internet protocol will need to support large scale routing and addressing, impose a low bandwidth overhead and support auto configuration and mobility as a basic element. The nature of nomadic computing requires an internet protocol to have built in authentication and confidentiality.”

      => Note that last sentence well – “built in authentication and confidentiality”. Consider what that means, which is: to even get on the Internet whatsoever in the future (once IPv4 is fully shut down) will require authentication of the “device” or computer or whatever. This gives the global rulers UTTER control over who can even get a device online. And do you think they’ll let people get online who criticise the politics of the day or speak truth about the global realities that are effecting us all? Not likely. If you are someone who is involved with “unapproved” anything then they will simply stop you getting online at all.

      This is certainly the plan for the “new improved” (= 100% corporate controlled) Internet that is essentially ready to be launched any day.


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  • moonkai
    June 28, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    We are ….the “Old World Order”.


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  • odiez1 odiez1
    June 28, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    I have CB radios in almost all my vehicles. CB with the illegal amplifier can talk across great spans with a mobile unit. Of course the base station with a good elevated antenna can talk across the country on a clear channel with legal power limits, but I won’t be home when the S hits the fan. California seems to chat is up on 17 quite often, truckers going E-W talk on 19, and 17 when going N-S generally. Assuming the electronics will still work…


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  • CiaW
    June 28, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    In case anyone is interested and doesn’t spend a lot of time on facebook, I have an enenews discussion group set up on Yahoo also. I’ve mentioned it several times before but things scroll by so fast here, I’ll throw it out again.

    However, since I don’t have any ‘inside knowledge’ from the site owner of this site (enenews) if it’s down the most I can do is speculate with you. If I’m around I can also ping the IP address of the site and advise what that says… for instance just now it said: Destination Port Unreachable.

    The address for the group on Yahoo is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ene_news/


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  • Ronnie_D.
    June 28, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Working link for Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety(CCNS)

    http://www.nuclearactive.org/CCNS/ccnsindex.html


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