US Gov’t: Alaska island “appears to show impacts from Fukushima” — “Significant cesium isotope signature” detected — Scientists anticipate more marine life to be impacted as ocean plume arrives (VIDEO)

Published: November 14th, 2013 at 1:22 am ET


Amchitka Island, Alaska, Biological Monitoring Report 2011 Sampling Results, September 2013: To determine what [Fukushima Dai-ichi’s] direct release of radioactive materials into the atmosphere might have contributed to the background radiation on Amchitka and Adak Islands, semiquantitative gamma spectrometry measurements were made […] The results imply that Dolly Varden [a type of fish], rockweed, and to a lesser extent, Irish lord [a type of fish] appear to contain a significant cesium isotope signature from Fukushima Dai-ichi. The estimated 134Cs/137Cs activity ratios in pooled fauna samples at the time sampled ranged from <30 to about 60 percent. Observations of Fukushima-derived fallout impacting on this region are supported by findings of elevated levels of 134Cs (and 137Cs) in lichen and soil collected from both the Adak and Amchitka regions. […]

Lichen sample from mid-2011 expressed in picocuries/kilogram — Lichen on  the island had less than 70 pCi/kg of Cs-137 in 1997.

Department of Energy: Biological Monitoring at Amchitka Appears to Show Impacts from Fukushima Dai-ichi Incident […] The U.S. Department of Energy Office Legacy Management (LM) has a long-term stewardship mission to protect human health and the environment from the legacy of underground nuclear testing conducted at Amchitka Island, Alaska, from 1965 to 1971. […] Atmospheric monitoring in the United States showed elevated cesium activities shortly after the [Fukushima] nuclear incident. LM scientists anticipated that atmospheric transport of cesium would potentially increase the cesium activities in the 2011 biological samples collected near Amchitka. Because cesium-134 has a relatively short half-life of 2 years and indicates leakage from a nuclear reactor, it is a clear indicator of a recent nuclear accident […] Because the Amchitka 2011 sampling event occurred soon after the Fukushima nuclear accident, the biota impacted by atmospheric precipitation showed the greatest impact (e.g., species that live in freshwater or shallow ocean waters) when compared to marine biota living in deeper water. This is because ocean currents are a slower transport process than wind currents. LM scientists anticipate that the marine biota will show the impacts of Fukushima during the next sampling event, currently scheduled to occur in 2016. […]

Watch the DoE video describing the 2011 monitoring event here

Published: November 14th, 2013 at 1:22 am ET


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129 comments to US Gov’t: Alaska island “appears to show impacts from Fukushima” — “Significant cesium isotope signature” detected — Scientists anticipate more marine life to be impacted as ocean plume arrives (VIDEO)

  • Gaikokujin Gaikokujin

    Thanks for this to Mochizuki Cheshire Iori and other heroes who have been putting pressure to the gov to admit the truth! Without that, they would just been silence about this! A small victory but there is much more to come I am afraid..

  • charlie3

    This is the very slow dripping of very basic admissions, years after the event began.
    Still, this is something.
    Now that they admot that there is radiation from fukushima on the west coast and in alaska, maybe considering whether this radioactive poisoning is what is causing the mass die-offs of so many local marine species will become possible.
    Or maybe that's just too implausible and outlandish and idea to consider.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Truth… now that would be a very good thing!

  • PurpleRain PurpleRain

    I can't help wondering why it will have to be another five years out before they do this testing again. Granted, they were probably on a five-year schedule in the past, but now that Fukushima has occured, I would think that they would want to step up this program substantially just to keep up with the figures they are getting now.

    • norbu norbu

      There must be sighs of Fuku-shit everywhere. A slow drip of info, but thanks for the start of admission that it is there and everywhere, come clean tell us the truth.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        On MSN and Yahoo today and not one mention of this Nuclear Catastrophe or Fukushima.. 🙁

        Nope, nada, nothing..everyone should just go shopping for Christmas all while buying Govt. sponsored death health care insurance.. 🙂 Oh did I say death? Sorry I mean free health care.. 🙂

      • Anthony Anthony

        It all feels like old news now to me. Its been an long and ugly storyline to follow as we all have.

  • Grampybone Grampybone

    2016? Where the hell did they get that number? How about right now 2.8 years into nuclear core containment breach. The levels are at lethal dose levels for large ecosystems. Within the next 5 months trophic collapse on a global scale due to this disaster is a very real prospect. 9 Months macro species such as sharks will begin to show contamination levels exceeding lethal limits.

    • Patrick-Henry Patrick-Henry

      Yeah…I love that 2016 bit…

      Where's the common sense?

      We live on a planet where water and air currents move rapidly. It does't take years for pollution (especially pollution of this magnitude) to spread. It takes days, weeks, and months…not years.

      Some pretty delusional stuff from people who are supposed to be intelligent…

      • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

        and the rapid movements of the "mixer" are speeding up thanks to climate change , another one of our accomplishments …

      • Sickputer

        PH typed these pixels of light: "Some pretty delusional stuff from people who are supposed to be intelligent…"

        SP: Big Brother is neither stupid nor delusional. Shrewd, evil, and conniving until the bitter end. And bitter times are fast approaching.

  • Mack Mack

    FYI – Here are the greatest amounts of radioisotopes found at one testing site (dry detection):

    * Cesium-137 — 3.854 pCi/kg in Dolly Varden fish
    * Cesium-137 — 5.312 pCi/kg in goose Egg no shell
    * Cesium-137 — 5.199 pCi/kg Gull egg
    * Cesium-137 — 8.094 pCi/kg Chiton
    * Cesium-137 — 4.981 pCi/kg Dragon Kelp
    * Cesium-137 — 2.365 pCi/kg Rockweed
    * Cesium-137 — 13.254 pCi/kg Greenling
    * Cesium-137 — .384 pCi/kg Halibut
    * Cesium-137 — 125.381 pCi/kg Horse Mussel soft tissue
    * Cesium-137 — 15.505 pCi/kg Irish Lord
    * Cesium-137 — 1.425 pCi/kg Octopus
    * Cesium-137 — .995 pCi/kg Pacific Cod
    * Cesium-137 — 10.216 pCi/kg Rockfish
    * Cesium-137 — 16.749 pCi/kg Sea Urchin
    * Cesium-137 — 25.254 pCi/kg Reindeer Lichen

    * Americium-241 — .008 pCi/kg Dolly Varden
    * Americium-241 — .106 pCi/kg Goose Egg no shell
    * Americium-241 — .05 pCi/kg Chiton
    * Americium-241 — .024 pCi/kg Dragon Kelp
    * Americium-241 — .024 pCi/kg Rockweed
    * Americium-241 — .098 pCi/kg Greeling
    * Americium-241 — .008 pCi/kg Halibut
    * Americium-241 — 1.678 pCi/kg Horse Mussel tissue
    * Americium-241 — .11 pCi/kg Irish Lord
    * Americium-241 — .003 pCi/kg Octopus
    * Americium-241 — .01 pCi/kg Pacific Cod
    * Americium-241 — .085 pCi/kg Rockfish
    * Americium-241 — .091 pCi/kg Reindeer Lichen
    * Americium-241 — .02 pCi/kg Sea Urchin

    • Mack Mack


      * Plutonium-239 — .039 pCi/kg Dolly Varden
      * Plutonium-239 — .186 pCi/kg Goose Egg no shell
      * Plutonium-239 — .104 pCi/kg Gull egg
      * Plutonium-239 — .298 pCi/kg Chiton
      * Plutonium-239 — .093 pCi/kg Dragon Kelp
      * Plutonium-239 — .084 pCi/kg Rockweed
      * Plutonium-239 — .379 pCi/kg Greeling
      * Plutonium-239 — .038 pCi/kg Halibut
      * Plutonium-239 — 4.194 pCi/kg Horse Mussel tissue
      * Plutonium-239 — .378 pCi/kg Irish Lord
      * Plutonium-239 — .036 pCi/kg Octopus
      * Plutonium-239 — .05 pCi/kg Pacific Cod
      * Plutonium-239 — .279 pCi/kg Rockfish
      * Plutonium-239 — .152 pCi/kg Reindeer Lichen
      * Plutonium-239 — .195 pCi/kg Sea Urchin

      * Plutonium-240 — .039 pCi/kg Dolly Varden
      * Plutonium-240 — .106 pCi/kg Goose Egg no shell
      * Plutonium-240 — .069 pCi/kg Gull egg
      * Plutonium-240 — .149 pCi/kg Chiton
      * Plutonium-240 — .037 pCi/kg Dragon Kelp
      * Plutonium-240 — .02 pCi/kg Rockweed
      * Plutonium-240 — .189 pCi/kg Greeling
      * Plutonium-240 — .012 pCi/kg Halibut
      * Plutonium-240 — 2.097 pCi/kg Horse Mussel tissue
      * Plutonium-240 — .189 pCi/kg Irish Lord
      * Plutonium-240 — .021 pCi/kg Octopus
      * Plutonium-240 — .015 pCi/kg Pacific Cod
      * Plutonium-240 — .139 pCi/kg Rockfish
      * Plutonium-240 — .091 pCi/kg Reindeer Lichen
      * Plutonium-240 — .117 pCi/kg Sea Urchin

      • Mack Mack

        * Uranium-234 — 3.854 pCi/kg Dolly Varden
        * Uranium-234 — 5.312 pCi/kg Goose Egg no shell
        * Uranium-234 — 3.466 Ci/kg Gull egg
        * Uranium-234 — 4.96 pCi/kg Chiton
        * Uranium-234 — 9.344 pCi/kg Dragon Kelp
        * Uranium-234 — 7.885 pCi/kg Rockweed
        * Uranium-234 — 4.906 pCi/kg Greenling
        * Uranium-234 — 2.304 pCi/kg Halibut
        * Uranium-234 — 58.721 pCi/kg Horse Mussel tissue
        * Uranium-234 — 8.86 pCi/kg Irish Lord
        * Uranium-234 — 7.127 pCi/kg Octopus
        * Uranium-234 — 4.976 pCi/kg Pacific Cod
        * Uranium-234 — 4.644 pCi/kg Rockfish
        * Uranium-234 — 3.032 pCi/kg Reindeer Lichen
        * Uranium-234 — 3.906 pCi/kg Sea Urchin

        They also found Uranium-235, 236 and 238 in these items. Starts on Page 247.

        >> You can see how these radioisotopes can add up very quickly if you're eating the fish.

        • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

          Agreed, Thank you Mack for adding this.. I would like a list of those involved in testing. These people have names and families, why would they stay quiet? Unbelievable responsibility.. these lab workers should have blown the whistle. They are responsible for many many people consuming food that is going to kill them.. and worse, they could have sounded the alarm years ago that just might have resulted in action that might have at least slowed this down.. or gotten enough average people aware that something would have to be done. Obviously people gathered samples, obviously others tested, ran the gamma spectrometry machine, or loaded a sample and pushed a button, obviously the person standing at the end of that machine saw the results…told their bosses and kept quiet. What kind of human does that? DISGUSTING. Really.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            If the DOE workers or those they contracted to do the work are following the "health physics" model of effects of radiation exposure, the levels found would "not be of immediate concern."

        • gottagetoffthegrid

          well there we have it. definitive proof that at least one of the SFPs or reactor cores suffered a nuclear explosion and dispersed fuel material into the upper atmosphere. Best candidate would be Unit 3.

          uranium and plutonium are not volatile components of nuclear fuel like Cs and I. so when you find them, you are finding traces of the fuel rods

          • UnclearOptions MaryM

            In this report, it appears that the Plutonium detected was actually NOT more in 2011 compared to their testing in 2004.

            Cesium 137, Uranium 234 and Uranium 236 levels were higher/more in 2011 (pg55).

            Maybe there's something I'm missing, but this area was definitely a hot spot before, so it is not all related to Fukushima. Does anyone read the Plutonium part differently?

            • Kassandra

              I read the plutonium part as you did

              I don't believe the results.

              Plutonium from Daiichi was detected in Lithuania.

            • tbg

              No, Im pretty sure you are correct. Its just bs anyway, these 466 total test samples they took between June 2011 and July 2011 only included very small numbers of large fish, prolly before bioaccumulation set in and some of those already small samples were blended together to further cook the numbers. I think it finally made the light of day because it makes fuku look better. "look at how bad it was before"
              The study in 2004 "determined" that the plutonium Was Not a result of the 3 underground nuclear tests they conducted on the island, including the one that led to the creation of Lake Cannakin when the void left by the bomb imploded on itself and filled in. It was probably commissioned to head off any lawsuits by inuits getting cancer from their nuclear tests.
              It doesnt say however where the plutonium Did come from, but Im pretty sure they can tell where plutonium originated. At least this report gives us concrete numbers but I already knew that, radnet already showed plutonium fell in seattle before they stopped testing (or at least releasing the test results).

        • Time Is Short Time Is Short

          All it takes is .00000000001 pCi/kg of plutonium (even less, really) to kill us, the uranium isn't far behind, and it will be accumulating in our food and water supply for more than 700 million years.

          Bon appetit.

        • gottagetoffthegrid

          and just look at the shell fish, the mussel in paricular. 10 times the amounts of U and Pu as other aquatic ssp.

        • CanaryInACoalMine CanaryInACoalMine

          Yikes! That horse mussel radioactivity is through the roof. Gee, I wonder what feeds on horse mussels? Maybe this can shed some light for those stumped & confused "scientists".

          "Some of the various animals that prey on young horse mussels include the common seastar or common starfish (Asterias rubens), crabs and sunflower seastars (Pycnopodia helianthoides). It is not easy for these predators to open up particularly large specimens of the species. The bigger the crab or seastar, the more possible the task usually is, however."

          What Eats Horse Mussels? | Animals – PawNation

        • Patrick-Henry Patrick-Henry

          Thank you Mack.

          Terrifying information…but we need to know; official channels sure aren't going to tell us.

        • babbo dorian babbo dorian

          Thank you so much Mack,

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Mack, would sure like to know what they're showing for Uranium 238.

      • Grampybone Grampybone

        The levels recorded here are similar to the ones found in Bikini Bay where the nuclear event horizon left a ring of concentrated isotopes in the water. The difference here is that the sea creatures ingesting these levels from Fukushima are showing levels that should be around the concentrated areas of the edge of an underwater nuclear test. The key is in the cloud…but when the cloud is a 3 fold waterfall of leaks daily into the currents of the oceans circulatory system it's bad. It's REALLY bad. Life underwater will suffocate and drown in it's own blood. Gruesome and horrific death across the seas as levels of isotopes begin to exterminate cell structures of trillions of protozoan life and plankton. Pacific life is on deaths doorstep.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          .. 🙁 Yes it is!

        • mairs mairs

          Or as at least one scientist said, the underground river water emerges in fresh water springs in the sea bed near the plant. Of course it would do that, but who is mentioning it at all? It's not just "leaks" from the plant. And it's carrying water that washed the coriums.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      In response to Mack's post above, conversion to Bequerels (Bq):

      * Cesium-137 — 25.254 pCi/kg Reindeer Lichen

      = 0.934398 Bq/kg

      * Plutonium-239 — 4.194 pCi/kg Horse Mussel tissue

      = 0.155178 Bq/kg

      Here's the online converter program:

      Thanks, Mack, for your diligence in posting the results of testing. Agree that this monitoring needs to be done on an ongoing basis, not just once every five years, or when a major accident occurs.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        These levels (particularly Cesium) sound relatively low, but they were done in 2011. A lot of bioaccumulation has likely occurred since then. Atmospheric deposition and admixture of Pacific ocean water via oceanic currents.

  • razzz razzz

    Fukus' fallout is going to play havoc with their findings. I see Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory does the bulk of the underground nuke bomb byproducts testing form 40+ years ago, very detailed analysis from ocean and land life samples including testing for tritium but no one says how much radionuclides from Fukus' fallout were in the many dead California seals this summer or maybe salmon returning to spawn.

  • Mack Mack

    This is interesting—>

    Found a document that talks about the 3 underground nuclear detonations at Amchitka:

    1. Detonated on 10/29/65 (called Long Shot)
    2. 10/2/69 (called Milrow)
    3. 11/6/71 (called Cannikin)

    And here's the interesting part —>

    "Long Shot was detonated shortly after a nearby magnitude 8.7 earthquake to determine whether monitoring techniques could differentiate between natural seismicity and nuclear explosions."

    • pattersonp

      From Wikipedia:

      "Amchitka is no longer used for nuclear testing. It is still monitored for the leakage of radioactive materials."

      Obviously the uranium, etc is from the weapons and the CS,134 is possibly from Fukushima since the half-life #'s.

      However, the bombs could have produced tons of 134 that is still in the process of half-life as well, hence detection. Especially in mussels (they could be 20 years old)

      the link to the starfish is a bit scary though… would explain alot.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Sorry to sound negative, but these people (the ones who decided to do nuclear weapons testing right after an 8.7 mag. earthquake) are unbelievably stupid. Doh!

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Mack, Excellent! What the hell were we thinking as a species? 🙁

    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

      Nothing Obe…
      We were just disconnected power tripping… consuming and wasting our own soul with it..
      But no objective Thinking..

      • NoNukes NoNukes

        Child molestors make up less than 5% of the human population.

        95%+ of humanity not only has no interest in molesting children, they wish to prevent child molestation.

        Nuclear employees make up less than 5% of the human population. Like child molestors, their crimes take place behind closed doors for a reason, the opposition of the majority of humanity.

        95%+ of humanity has no interest in destroying children and adults through nuclear contamination, they fight to keep nuclear out of their neighborhoods, just like they fight to keep child molestors out of their neighborhoods.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks


        • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

          Hi NoNukes , i respectfully disagree …

          First , i'm looking at way more then just nuclear , there is no balance vital for life on this planet we have NOT fubared , in fact Fukushima might be an ELE , but it is not THE major ELE , it is just a symptom , WE ARE THE ELE !

          Second , when you have an pusher/addict dynamic , regardless if it is 5%/95% or otherwise , if you take one of them away , the dynamic cease to exist..
          When both are needed to fullfill our selfdestruction , it is not the truth if one of them deniales the responsibility imho..
          I don't know what it is that makes it so hard for humanity to look in the mirror..
          Hi , i'm by the greed i make possible a slowly executed addict ,
          arent we soulmates or what…?

          Consumption Vanity Disorder

          "We must shift America from a needs to a desires culture. People must be trained to desire. To want new things even before the old have been entirely consumed. We must shape a new mentality in America." – Paul Mazer

          Consumption-Vanity Disorder is a disease spread not through a mutating virus or genetic predisposition – but through cultural “Memes” – turning the world into a reflection of the advertising images broadcast daily by 90% of all media – a world of mini-malls, fashion obsessions, fake tits and belligerent gadgetry.

          A good overview of the history of consumptionism, its psychological and ecological effects.

          • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

            Btw , i just found the link , so i did not watch all them video's , but it looked good enough to share 🙂

      • Homolumina Homolumina

        Please exclude me from this "WE" – it is all the doing of immature, power and control driven not initiated males ! We live in paternal societies who are dead driven and destructive – I am NOT part of this, I was never asked, and all I can do is helplessly being victimized like the rest of life on this planet ! Initiate males and the terror will end, once and for all.

    • Patrick-Henry Patrick-Henry

      We weren't thinking at all obe…we still aren't…good God…

      I cannot even believe there are still people I know who don't even register that this event is ongoing. I tell them. Give them the information. And they nod and go right back to their smartphones…

      Even seeing photos of sea life right now, dolphins frolicking, whales, seals, otters, fish…it just breaks my heart and tears come to my eyes.

      We have blown it…big time…

      "And for what? For a little bit of money. There's more to life than a little money, you know. Don'tcha know that? And here ya are, and it's a beautiful day. Well. I just don't understand it."
      Marge Gunderson- Fargo

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Sadly we have all been lied too since the day we were born and they continued to shower you/me/us with trinkets and lavish lifestyles and you/me/us always looked the other way. 🙁

        The result for allowing such behaviors unabated will be what still comith this way in volume! 🙁

        Nothing is for free and a price must always be paid in one way or another… 🙂

        None of us will like the payment required! 🙁

    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

      Progress !!!

  • Mack Mack

    As a reminder, this area is also where the Fukushima plume went first, and therefore probably contained a greater concentration of radioisotopes:

  • mungo mungo

    forget all this, it is academic now. look at tepcam

  • harengus_acidophilus

    "appears to show impacts"

    Sorry, but this sonds like:
    "This skeleton appears to be dead,
    but further research is necessary …"


  • Alpha1

    It begins the world as we know it and the food chain are about to die off in mass. Einstein once the ocean dies we only have possibly ten years left of life on this planet as we know it. Time to cry out as loud as we can, time to scream from the top of our lungs.

    Shame all of us had not ever met but through the Apocalypse, this is the start of the finish and it is just about to get really bad world wide. and find us help us we need to protect our children as best we can. We need help to find sufficient ways to slow down the process of the deterioration of the cell structure we need to take and cryogenicly freeze our sperm so there can be future population of this planet. We are all in a bad place, things are not going to stop and things are not going to get better, this will essentially kill all man ELE. Once again get good with what you must and brace for impact. Here it has become the many instead of the few.

    Hope to see you contribute to our cause and the help find cures for sickness and RAIDS….

  • AllenH AllenH

    What do they mean by: Appears to show impacts.
    By my understanding it is either effected or it aint. Appears seems like an Orwellian term to me !?
    We know it is effected though by Fukushima, the whole damn northern hemisphere is, nothing is untouched, and everything will only get more poisoned/radiated. As simple as that.

  • saltyfishlvr

    After watching the video, this gem popped up: "This video is unlisted. Be considerate and think twice before sharing."

    • AllenH AllenH

      What video was it? Seems like another control mechanism to add to the long enough list. It must be referring to the bankers, or the politicians perhaps. In order to save their careers which we frankly could not survive unless we had them showing us how to live life.

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        A government video..the laughing begins before ..even watching it.
        Another control effort.

        Don't think I will..
        Another ad hominem moment..
        I have better things to do with my precious life.

        TPTB are like children..they don't understand.. what they ask for..they can't handle it when they do.

        This includes the military..
        I wouldn't want to be in there shiny shoes..later on.
        Oh..they will cover their position will huffing and puffing..about nation security..and secrets kept among comrades ..etc.
        But the 'fun' is too great.
        They don't even retire..but take other jobs in the production of Death.
        But deep inside they know now and will know then….they failed the people.

        This type is used to taking it the grave with be it..

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    I just want to know.. what I'm going to say to my horses.
    Frisky and free..trotting and playing in the crisp autumn air.
    My beloved… brave..(though sensitive) horses.
    What shall I say when I whisper in their of what Humans have done to this earth?

    • Alpha1

      Wow that is so hard, can you imagine what the children actually have absorbed. What are we going to say as our children get sick, look what Humans have done to you???

      I would imagine the horses actually feel it in the muscle tissue. I could only imagine when my son was crying about never being able to see the pacific ocean again what he was thinking.

      He cried and said I will never get to go there again, Why is our President not doing something about this. I said there is nothing he can do but what he is doing hiding from the issue. This is a cry for help and a war that is being shoveled at the earth.

      What do we say to her, look what a killer man is, how dark how Evil, how has greed turned us how has usury taken us into the depth of killing our own children. Look how we watch as our families get cancers and RAIDS… Who did we vote for what is he doing where is he, where is the military why are they not stepping in with GE to take this mess over? I will tell you why because it is already tooo late!!!!!

      • Socrates

        The nuclear program was conceived to defeat the Germans. Were they going to use such weapons in Europe?

        The Cold War and the peaceful atom have boomeranged back at America. Many trillions of dollars spent has only succeeded in destroying the air we breathe and the Pacific Ocean we depend on.

        The idea of "plan ahead" never entered their pea-brains.

        Helen Caldicott says that the effects of testosterone on the male brain stem of large nuclear explosions is an aphrodisiac. It is the power, control and sadism that nuclear energy brings that must be the explanation for this fascination with nuclear energy.

        What do you tell the children indeed.

        Some men are psychopathic and either do not care or actually enjoy destroying life on this planet. There is no other conclusion except that they can also make money playing with fire.

        • Bones Bones

          I'm a man, and don't agree testosterone is the problem nor does it cause such joy at such destuction. Yea, as boys we like to blow stuff up, but not in ways that permanently destroy and cause cancer from contamination. It's those with the power to make these decisions that are psychopaths and abuse their power. When someone wrecks on the crash men run past the bike or whatever you like and go right to you and don't give two craps about the machine. Men with balls protect and care, it is the precise lack of testosterone with makes men need to show off their "power" and hurt others and feel good from it. I've felt that good feeling after punching someone who's been harassing me, but radioactive contamination is nothing to wish on my worst enemy. Make sense?

          • mairs mairs

            Bones, a small plane hit another in midair over my neighborhood where I used to live. One of them crashed across the street from us in a neighbor's front yard, three feet from his house. My husband ran to see if anyone was still alive. The smell of fuel was very strong and no one else would approach the plane except him. There was a father and son in the cockpit and they were both dead. I didn't see any women running to the plane to try to save the passengers. I'm really disappointed that Caldicott would start with the gender thing.

            • Socrates

              Mairs and Bones,

              There was excitement about the results of the Manhatten Project where an almost religious experience was reported. I am a man myself.

              Power is said to be the greatest aphrodesiac, according to Henry Kissinger. The effect would be upon women, presumably.

              Anthropologically speaking, we are governed by an Alpha male paradigm. What better way to have power, peaceful or otherwise than nuclear?

              I feel that Dr. Caldicott knows exactly what she is talking about.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              My brother, when 16 y.o., pulled a girl with 3rd degree burns from a burning car. She would have died, as the car exploded a short time later. He was happy just to have saved her life.

        • Homolumina Homolumina

          Men, especially those in power, need to be initiated. A man who is not, remains immature, power driven, territorial, goal oriented, control driven, competitive, aggressive and disconnected from all life. After an initiation, which includes a near death experience, men are reconnected with life, all the above characteristics go away, are available on choice though. A man who is initiated, reconnected with life, can never ever turn against life anymore. With the establishment of the Christian movement as a state religion back 300 AC by the patriarchal Roman Empire was the beginning of disempowering and disconnecting people from the Evolution of Spirit through Humanity and instead creating a power structure for a few through exploiting and misguiding uninitiated men and suppressing women and all life to their benefit. It drives me suicidally crazy that people do not understand why we are where we are at – initiate men I say and all morbid insanity globally will stop !!!

      • babbo dorian babbo dorian

        It is, Alpha1 and, what's really killing me, …. since I do not fear death is , my 15 years old baby.
        Will she die of cáncer in ….. maybe 1, 2, months, years ….??

    • Anthony Anthony

      Just love them and let them love all over you likewise.

      It is really about all we can do.

      **The outside of a horse is good for the inside of a Man**

    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

      Thank You for being the sweatest , most loyal of friend , to the undeserving species that is SOLELY responsible for every pain you didden't understand during your entire angel friend..forgive me…

      I whispered something like that tru my tears when i had to let my last dog go to sleep a few years back…
      A Beauceron (french shepperd) with weak health i saved from the "homeless pet's last station"

    • vicky13 vicky13

      HI Heart,,

      I am the same. I look at my incredibly intelligent Parrots who speak English in context, whole sentences,, and I just get so incredibly sad.

      I start to cry,, my beloved Sun Conure whose name is Blaze,, flies to me when I cry, he lands on my heart chakra,, spreads his wings across me, and says it's OK,,,, it's OOOOKKKKKKKK.

      Makes me cry even harder,, then I get snot all over him,, ewww, then I gotta go give him a shower,, which he loves.

      I am so afraid for them.

      Straight up when my Feathered Dragons, die,, that is when I will want to die too. I am much closer to the animal world than the human one.

      If I had to choose forever which one to live in, it wouldn't be the human world.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    I'm going to take the horses out for a bit..
    The children..what will we say?
    I will be able to say I tried.
    Others..I have no idea.

    In Another Time-Sade

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      PS..Another day of horse comforting rider..not the other way around.

      • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

        I understand..

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Agreed. I make special time to play with my small rescue dog every day. She helps to lift my saddened spirits. Sometimes I think she knows the world has gone bad. I found her on April 19, 2011, after we'd had ceaseless rain-outs for over a month. She had been running the streets and scavenging for weeks. She goes outside on days when NETC shows high CPM counts, and stands vigilantly, sniffing the air. IMO she knows there is something not right with the world. Still, she remains playful, cheerful, happy. For me, innocence lost.

      • Anthony Anthony

        Its a great way to live a life. The greatest in my opinion! Have a good time with them today Heart. Forget Man's Follies for awhile. They will still be there when you get back to the barn but we know you wont even think about FUKU with the wind blowing on your eyelids.

      • Patrick-Henry Patrick-Henry

        I am so there Heart and Vicky13…I'm weeping now at work as I type this…

    • vicky13 vicky13

      That is a beautiful video,,

      This one does it for me,, how awesome our planet and the animal world is,,

  • mesa777

    All I can say is thank goodness I don't eat seafood! However since I like fruit I guess I am in trouble! This is not going to end well. The entire food chain is contaminated at this point. Milk, fish, water, air, were in trouble

  • mesa777

    Once man is gone from the planet I am hoping that we will not be around for millions of years so that nature can come back without having to deal with the posions made by man

    • We Not They Finally

      There is apparently historical evidence left on various parts of this planet that very anciently, this species did the same thing. Like Atlantis. Also nuclear residue in parts of India. We have no real pulse on how old the planet is or what it has endured. Obviously, either a race of giants, or a race capable of levitation built the pyramids. We know so little. But it seems clear that once "we" were advanced, yet we are nowhere near that now before the self-destruction begins.

      Have oftentimes thought that the planet has just been designated as a reformatory. But unclear that the lessons are ever learned.

  • gello

    Yes, what do you say to the kids ?, I would not be able to even think about telling my grandchildren. would have to discuss that with the parents, [ don't go out in the rain ] who would probably take no notice, its dad being a doomster again. They are not informed, they don't read enenews or any other relevant site
    People, apart from knowing very little, are in denial as are major governments, They can not begin to even think how bad it will get, and perhaps its easy to ignore, because there is seemingly nothing they can do to overcome this tragedy ,and to admit to the world what's really going on ;well.
    Being here daily for more than two years,with all the daily accrued information ,and now into future, which is extremely compromised. Because, their is no future. Everyone, quite rightly is getting on with life and they think its going to continue as usual, whereas the enewsers are well informed, but there is a price to pay psychologically. If in a room with twenty people, and only one enewser, who,by now is considered a little crazy, he is alone. Being old, does not diminish ones grip on life, but such a sadness prevails for this truly beautiful planet, and i can not express this sadness to the ones i love dearly, except those who know.

    • mairs mairs

      The people I talk to don't think we're crazy. They only want to hear about it in small doses (ha!) though because there's nothing they can do about it and it's so depressing. One friend doesn't follow Fukushima closely but just from TV news has decided not to eat Pacific seafood anymore, so some of it is getting through to the general public for sure.

  • Biological effective dose of ionizing radiation 'E' to FISH from …

    E(fish)= w(fish)h(human)3

    I came across a couple of new calculations today on the technical site wolframalpha.

    I typed in 1 sievert to to view the conversions and now I see some NEW calculations. I don't fully understand the calculations, but I do understand that it will become part of survival and life.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    N O T . J U S T . A L A S K A

    Take samples anywhere in U.S and Canada.

    Is there a place not contaminated?

    Unless proven otherwise, the answer is "no".

  • Securitize

    Most alarming is the contamination of ALL samples with Plutonium. As stated in the study's writeup, these isotopes were transported on air currents. The entire west coast of North America was breathing in plutonium. Given a mean onset of bone/lung cancer ~3 years post-plutonium exposure (from the infamous Beagle experiment and with inhalation exposure in micrograms), it should be expected that Plutonium related deaths begin to occur soon.

    Here is the study:

    Of note: 144 Beagle dogs exposed. 141 died from cancer. That is marvelous efficacy at inflicting cancers. This threat is real. The death will soon be palpable.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes, it is palpable and why the problem/truth is urgent and exactly why this Nuclear Technology must be banned Worldwide immediately!

    I ask once again, where are all the wise men/women?

  • pkjn

    59 Total Thyroid Tumors In Fukushima Children
    November 13th, 2013 SimplyInfo
    New data has been released from the government study of thyroid abnormalities and cancer in Fukushima children. Of those screened 59 have been found to have tumors. The health survey examined 289,960 children total.
    This becomes 1 cancer per 5000 people. This is far higher than the pre-disaster levels. This raises big questions about the claims that these are increased just due to more screening. The more these numbers grow the harder it is to dismiss the findings are some version of normal.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    No, any data from governments, their doctors and officials, plenty of reason to doubt that stuff. You can probably add several zeros to the data to make it more realistic.

    What is useful though, the reporting of dead sea life, people's pets and sick children, and soil and air samples from independent and trusted sources.

  • Jebus Jebus

    137Cs(90Sr) and Pu isotopes in the Pacific Ocean sources & trends

    Publication Date:1996-11-01

    • Keen

      Jebus, I was hoping this link would be a bit easier to compare to the one you put up just before it. There is a lot of information there but I do not have the time to sift it.

  • dukie

    from a previous post: "Even seeing photos of sea life right now, dolphins frolicking, whales, seals, otters, fish…it just breaks my heart and tears come to my eyes."

    Last night I saw a wall decoration (painting?) for sale of a whale diving, just the tail sticking in the air with an island(?) in the background. Believe it's been around many years. Seen it many times…Anyhoo

    A thought went thru my brain that I would never want to have to look at that painting on a continuing basis. Too sad now.

    50 years ago I was a Navy chopper pilot. Mission ASW (AntiSubWarfare). Used to train off San Diego. Saw the whales many times close up as they were migrating. Always a beautiful sight.

    For offense against subs we carried programmable (from the cockpit) nuke depth charges. From o.5kt up to max of 20kt. We were told if ever ordered to drop the 20kt be sure to be flying downwind to escape the ocean wave that would follow.

    When I think about all this now, the destruction of mankind seems so inevitable just as Einstein predicted…Anyone have the quote(S)? I mean WTF, we carried depth charges on a helicopter that were equal to the Nagasaki bomb just to blow up a fukkin submarine. ???

    Man has been living on borrowed time re nukes. Kinda weird that a power generating plant gonna possibly do us in.

  • pattersonp

    More info:
    Concerns have been expressed that new fissures may be opening underground, allowing radioactive materials to leak into the ocean.[37] A 1996 Greenpeace study found that Cannikin was leaking both plutonium and americium into the environment,.[23] In 2004, scientific divers from the University of Alaska Fairbanks collected shallow subtidal organisms[39] and reported that "There were no indications of any radioactive leakage, and all that was really wonderful news."[28] Similar findings are reported by a 2006 study, which found that levels of plutonium "were very small and not significant biologically"

    I really doubt this is 100% Fukushima guys… maybe SOME of the 134, but the plutonium/uranium is definitely from the tests…The site has been known to be leaking since atleast the 1970s by the US Govt, with various trips/plans/studies on it. Also people say fissures opened up in the ground as well…

    • pattersonp

      Also, not sure why they would sample here and then pretend it was amazing to find radioactive particles?

      This study seems very shady now with this new information about existing and known radiological elements, especially the americium and plutonium (from 1996, wayyy before 3/11).

      I am worried about Fukushima too, but many here are looking for it and trying a bit too hard to find it I'm afraid.

      • pattersonp

        The fatman bomb in Japan for example was roughly 21 kilotons of explosion.

        "Milrow had an announced yield of about 1,000 kilotons, and was detonated at a depth of 1,220 m on October 2, 1969. Cannikin had an announced yield less than 5,000 kilotons, and was conducted at a depth of 1,790 m"

        These were hundreds of times larger and only 1.7km underground …

      • We Not They Finally

        pattersonp, no one has to look that hard for Fukushima at all! Every other day, the radiation is exponentially greater. It's a million, then a billion, then a trillion becquerels. Can't make this stuff up. Not hardly.

        • pattersonp

          You just proved my point, sadly. I understand or try to understand everyday, and I know the releases are absolutely disugsting and awful..

          But this is a perfect example of NON-FUKUSHIMA radiation that existed in the 70s, yet there is still a relationship because formed because of the 134 "tracer" isotopes.

          Thats all well and good but you are literally just assuming its everywhere because of the total release numbers and not actually taking into account reality… You cannot lump everything bad ever to happen or any radioisotope back to Fukushima… ITs a dangerous game of fear mongering…

          There;s been so many dumps, and explosions, etc in the Pacific alone that this isn't going to be the camel to break its back. This won't help obviously but please stop with the EVERYTHING IS FUKUSHIMA ALL AROUND US 24-7.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          WNTF, yes. Agreed. Airborne CPM counts in my area are averaging 2 1/2 to 3 times higher than in the beginning of September. The radiation levels are going up exponentially. I'm on the West Coast of U.S., about 60 miles inland, Central Valley.

          • Keen

            Taters From where did you derive this information and what is the typical CPM for your area? Over how much time have you been observing these raised levels? Have you viewed or determined this increased CPM multiple times over periods of weeks or months or are you talking about one observation? Sorry if this is elementary but I think it could inform people if we knew.

        • Keen

          FWNT What is the significance of the becquerel numbers you are citing. how do they compare in relation to a swimming pool or the ocean. When counting atoms numbers get big very fast and it seems to me this might be on par with such a scenario. Becquerels confuse me a bit can you put it in perspective?

    • Keen

      Nice pattersonp. Now here is a key analytical observation that was missing up to this point. It was great of Mack to dig up this isotope information but most of the following observations seem to me to be week or off the mark. It seems that some here have seen more of the document than was posted here. I was wondering where the Cesium 134 is. Is it there but I just didn't see it?

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Likely in another part of the study from which Mack quoted.

      • pattersonp

        If you look at top of article for example it has a chart for that CS-134 for 'Adak'. Its high, 20,000 pCi/kg.

        I found this conversion from some FDA drug seize article on Google, seems about on mark with others. 10,000 pCi/kg (370 Bq/kg)

        That is scary. Thats over 700 Bq/Kg in some lichen and other fish, etc… I learned here that starfish eat many of these creates like mussles, etc.

  • pattersonp

    If anyone cares, here is the original powerpoint for this study. Interesting read cool pics.

    • pattersonp

      the baseline study for their expectations was from 1987… That's really suspect as well. Greenpeace warned in 1996 about Americium, etc. That's 9 years later and they would still sampling all that crap but they ignored this… Weird.

  • bepartofthesolution

    HoTaters and DisasterInterpretationDissorder and HeartofRoses-

    Boy–as scarey as all of this is…your self-righteousness is bizarre to me. The idea that there is a consipiracy of evil people out there who want to kill the planet while becoming rich is a childish fantasy. If only everyone would listen to you… all would be paradise. It was very shortsighted to have built any nuclear power plants. It was obviously a terrible mistake. But the idea that any company that attempts to provide energy is evil and amoral is just plain stupid. We all have become accustomed to having and using items which take energy. Do you ever drive in a car powered by oil? Do you use the many items of conventience that most Americans use? Let's go further–do you wear clothes made by Nike or any number of companies who use child labor or worse do you buy items made in Communist China where people live in work camps and work 12 hours a day? Unless you live in the woods without power (which you obviously don't–you have accesss to a computer), you are part of the problem too. So to act like you have all of the answers is well—self-righteous to say the least. And HeartofRoses, if it weren't for the brave men and women of our armed forces you wouldn't be sitting on your butt freely articulating your opinion without the terrible fear of retalliation from your own government (at least not yet). Let's look at possible solutions, if there are any rather than attack, blame or label.

  • flatsville

    >>>It was very shortsighted to have built any nuclear power plants. It was obviously a terrible mistake.<<<

    Yes. That's all it unfortunate decision – a terrible mistake.

    >>>But the idea that any company that attempts to provide energy is evil and amoral is just plain stupid.<<<

    We have ample evidence that NPPs kill people as evidenced by the reverse stdies that show cancer rates in the geographically proximate populations drop when a NPP closes.

    To NOT shut them down in the face of this evidence IS evil.

  • Jebus Jebus

    I had to come back to this as I found some things of interest to the forum topic…

    Radionuclide Concentrations in Benthic Invertebrates from Amchitka and Kiska Islands in the Aleutian Chain, Alaska.pdf

    And here's where CRESP determined who, what, when, where, and how.
    We know why. How meaning who was going to fund it…

    Amchitka Science Plan June 24 2003 Burger Draft.doc – ApprovedAmchitkaSciencePlan.pdf