Published: August 2nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm ET
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Title: April 5th, 2011 – Japan Plans to “Goop” the Site With a Material Called “Fix It” – As a Way to Fix Ground and Building Loose Contamination
Source: Enformable
Date: August 2, 2012
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Japan Team and Consortium 3:00 am Phone Call (RST log 2040)
INPO Bob Ryan
EPRI Steve Modine
Japan Team
RST
GEJapan plans to “Goop” the site with a material called “Fix It” it is purported to be used as a way to fix ground and building loose contamination. TEPCO Japan is planning to perform this action in the future. RST has some preliminary product information and has passed this to the
Consortium.RST and Consortium 11:00 am Phone Call
INPO:
- Organic compounds like the one suggested by the Japanese when exposed to radiation. can form a glue-like material (peanut butter!) and may cause more problems
- water is the best solution for now
???: Any other compound available?
TEPCO is planning a test before using their compound – INPO’s concern is that it will take time for radiations effects (-few days?)
INPO: Concern with this method are (1) impact on heat transfer in the spent fuel pool, and (2) effect on the remote devices
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Published: August 2nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm ET
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Remember the story about a fire at an adhesives plant..
Turned out there was radioactive waste being stored..on-site.
Failed experiment?
http://richardlazzara.posterous.com/japan-chemical-plant-blast-kills-1-injures-17
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Interesting find, Heart.
Quoting from your story (for those who don't always click links):
"A blogger has found Information from the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI) that lists companies that have radioactive waste on the premise. According to the MEXT data from 2009, the complex has 3,379 containers of nuclear waste. This is very close to the Iwakuni US base."
Have you found any other buzz about that story? It would be great to see the actual METI documents, should anyone come across them.
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Just shows the sorry state of nuclear power. Not a scientist in the world can fix this mess, which is spreading.
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A form of epoxy..?
Epoxy is toxic..
I feel sick ..just thinking about it.
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Someone is making some money…
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Yes Heart,
It's about the money and NEVER the lives…
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I have seen plants try to do this on contaminated floors by covering them with an epoxy like material. This will keep down the contamination that is on the surface. But there are some down sides to doing it.
1. The contamination that is covered up will stay there under the surface forever.
2. Any dose rate from the contamination will still emit radiation through the covering and the material will provide almost no shielding.
3. If the plant is still emitting radioactive material then this job will need to be done again.
4.If the surface being put down is rough or porous then future decontamination will be very difficult.
These pro's and con's are known to Tepco, and most plants I have seen pass on this option.
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I don't recall seeing "INPO" in the mix until today. From their website:
"The nuclear power industry has an exciting future. INPO offers dynamic and rewarding career opportunities for individuals who want to work in an industry that helps meet our nation’s growing energy needs."
http://www.inpo.info/
EPRI is another new acronym to me. According to Wiki, it "conducts research on issues related to the electric power industry in USA."
A closer look makes it seem like a rather sordid entity (I think):
"EPRI … has concluded that coal and nuclear power will still supply two-thirds of our energy by 2050.
The organization sees renewables such as wind and biomass supplying only a quarter of the electricity in 2050, and predicts solar power will not play a significant role. “It just doesn’t enter into our equation,” said Revis W. James, in an April 2009 article in The New York Times Energy and Environment Blog.
EPRI developed a clean coal technology Roadmap…"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Power_Research_Institute
This kind of story reminds us that the US nuke industry has been involved in Fukushima throughout the crisis, contrary to occasional spin pieces to the effect that "Japan wouldn't talk to us". It doesn't reveal who the actual decision makers have been though.
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@aigeezer, you likely know far more than i do on this matter, but, i had assumed that the US and Japanese businesses and industries, i.e., anything that came out of the war, was essentially operating in unity and full knowledge of each other. Westinghouse built the reactors in Japan. The Japanese own over 50% shares in US Westinghouse stock. That sort of thing. Like Halliburton and Congress. I'd see the INPO and EPRI infomercial faux interviews on NEI and Brave New Climate when i'd go to these sites to see what was in the heads of nuke proponents. I think that it is true that TEPCO wouldn't talk to regulatory agencies in the US or accept their help, but that is different from chatting it up with old business partners across the waves. In fact, i'm not sure how much the US NPPs talk to the NRC, for example, but, probably have all sorts of conversations with a commissioner here or there off the record and undocumented. The purpose of all of these hidden relationships, of course, is to keep other things hidden as well.
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Vic, my assumptions are similar to yours. I have no inside knowledge and most of my comments come out of perceived inconsistencies in the various stories and documents that come our way.
I imagine all these entities are joined at the hip – much more than most industry associations – because of the nature of nuke. I keep trying to distinguish the puppet-masters from the puppets, as the various entities posture in both roles as it suits them, for example the NRC themes of "we're in charge" one moment and "we weren't allowed near" at another.
The 'goop' document refers to a 3:00 a.m. phone call – inevitable considering the time zones. Was the player at 3 a.m. the one in charge or were they the patsy stuck with the graveyard shift so as not to inconvenience the big shots? Could be either, but this stuff tends to build patterns. For example, the FOIA NRC transcripts reveal a fawning internal hierarchy.
Bottom line – some of these players are giving the orders and some are taking them. In Enenews discussions, people have at various times thought the Yakuza, GE, Areva, Westinghouse, Hitachi, NRC, Japan's government, US government, … many many others… are "in charge" or "to blame". Our favorite villain is of course Tepco so it would be fascinating if we learned Tepco has been puppet rather than puppet-master all along.
No answers yet, but this can't be the amorphous mass presented to the public.
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The IneptCO carnival of distractions and joke attempts at looking busy continues… Next: Let's poke the Corium with a stick and see what happens… Hmm.. Goop + Contaminated waste = Goopy Contaminated waste.
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Hmmm…i thought the goop to glue idea was floated and rejected over a year ago? It is my understanding that there are two main contractors working under TEPCO at Fukushima and that these two companies see each other as rivals for yen from TEPCO rather than as business compatriots. There is not a unified leadership of nuclear engineers. In fact, i get the impression that the engineers have little influence, while their jobs are to formulate ideas that laborers will implement. It was also my understanding that many nuclear engineers have left Japan already and that these companies and TEPCO are utilizing those that remained. The final decisions of how to proceed and what to try are made by business men without nuclear training of any kind. That may also reveal why so many of their choices are so nonsensical regarding nuclear physics and always seem to have profit and loss as their guiding principles. I think that San Onofre and Yankee in the US are two other examples of this same type of set up.
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I agree Vic,the "suits" are making decisions based on "business health" rather than "people health". And your spot on about San Onofre, I spent a lot of time there and that is the most top down business oriented plant I have spent time at myself. But how do you know?
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