“Very Serious”: Wildfires burn close to US nuclear site — ‘Red Flag Warning’ issued — FEMA: “Fire threatened such destruction as would constitute a major disaster” — Largest wildfire in country (VIDEO)

Published: August 3rd, 2016 at 5:17 pm ET


NPR, Aug 3, 2016 (emphasis added): Washington Fire Crews Fight To Keep Buffer Between Wildfire, Nuclear Reactor — Officials from the Hanford nuclear reservation and Energy Northwest have been meeting with fire managers in southeast Washington state Tuesday. The nearby Range 12 Fire has grown to more than 177,000 acres and high winds are predicted this evening. Fire managers are very serious about keeping the Range 12 Fire off the central portion of the Hanford nuclear site and away from the Northwest’s only nuclear reactor… Energy Northwest spokesman John Dobken called the fire’s distance from the reactor a “non-issue,”… However, fire crews were still active on Rattlesnake Tuesday. Helicopters won’t be able to fly if gusts reach 20-30 miles per hour as predicted.

KEPR, Aug 2, 2016: The fire that began on the Yakima Training Center Saturday night and burned into Benton and Grant Counties over the weekend has ballooned to over 175,000 acres according to fire crews… The Range 12 fire [is] burning close to Hanford… The Northwest Incident Command team managing the firefighting efforts said [the blaze] is getting dangerously close to West Richland… A red flag warning is in place until 8 p.m. Tuesday night… Fire officials said the Red Flag Warning is causing concern for controlling containment lines around the blaze… As of Tuesday the Range 12 blaze stretched… from the Yakima Training Center toward the Hanford Reservation… Randall Rishe with BLM [Bureau of Land Management] said at this time they do not have a clear estimate of when the fire will be fully contained.

NPR, Aug 2, 2016: The Country’s Largest Wildfire Is Burning In Washington State… About 400 firefighters, three helicopters and 34 engines are fighting it. Some firefighters and land managers say they’re on edge because of predicted gusty winds and a red flag warning. The breeze is already kicking up, and firefighters worry that burned areas could pop up and jump the established fire lines. Crews set a backfire Sunday night on Rattlesnake Mountain to keep the Range 12 fire from burning contaminated areas of the Hanford Nuclear Reservation… [This] is the largest wildfire on a list of fires managed by government agencies.

KIRO, Aug 1, 2016: FEMA funds to help fight Benton County wildfire — A wildfire burning toward the Hanford nuclear reservation scorched about 110 square miles of brush and grass Monday as it spread… [FEMA] has authorized the use of federal funds to help with firefighting costs for the South Ward Gap Fire burning in Benton County, Washington. FEMA Region X Regional Administrator Kenneth D. Murphy determined that the fire threatened such destruction as would constitute a major disaster

Seattle Times, Aug 2, 2016: Winds whip up wildfires; one blaze bearing down on Hanford site… winds pushed the Range 12 fire toward the Hanford Nuclear Reservation… Rishe said the fire Sunday ripped through grass, sagebrush and cheatgrass with ferocity… Crews are racing to put the fire down before winds make the situation more dangerous.

Seattle Times, Aug 2, 2016: Wildfire near Hanford site larger than first thought; high winds a concern — The Range 12 fire, near the Hanford nuclear site, is now 175,000 acres — much bigger than crews first realized… More than 400 firefighters are working the Range 12 fire, which is west of the Hanford nuclear site. Rishe said “there’s very low concern along Highway 240,” the barrier to the nuclear site. But, “it’s all contingent on this wind event.”

Tri-City Herald, Aug 2, 2016: Fire near Hanford much larger than thoughtThe estimated size of the fire that burned… toward the Hanford nuclear reservation has more than doubled to 273 square miles… A red flag fire warning was issued for the Mid-Columbia on Tuesday… The incident command team was concerned that established fire perimeter lines could be threatened… Crews have come from as far away as Medford, Ore., to help fight the fire.

Watch KEPR’s broadcast here

Published: August 3rd, 2016 at 5:17 pm ET


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    • Keep track of potential releases with this free community resource. There are a lots of USA radiation monitoring networks and stations list there.

      List of International Radiation Monitoring Stations


    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Yeah, GREEEEEAAAAAAT. The Columbia Station is an accident waiting to happen.

      • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

        Columbia Generating Station, formerly known as WHOOPS, only generates about 4% of WA's electricity. We have many huge dams there. Wind power. Solar. We do not need or want nuclear! CGS is extremely dangerous. It has an abysmal safety record. They were fined by the NRC for having inoperable and/or manipulated radiation monitoring equipment. CGS in on the Hanford nuclear reservation. Surrounded by high level radioactive wastes of all types. Unlined trenches filled with rusty barrels of nuclear waste. This is proven from whistleblower pics from the 80's. Hundreds and hundreds of nuclear waste tanks that are corroding and leaking into the air, water and soil. Evil criminal nukers at Hanford intentionally released MASSIVE plumes of deadly radioactive Iodine gas. Hanford Greenruns… These massive Iodine plumes blew downwind and killed many many babies in Walla Walla and other towns downwind. Enenews.com has done great work covering this story. All of this radioactive contamination at and around Hanford can be liberated by these fires. When the contaminated plants burn up the smoke and ash blows around and spreads the radiation downwind. The plants concentrate radioactive contamination in the soils and then the fires spread the rads around the environment again. This just happened last summer near Chernobyl. Nuclear is the Satanic gift that just keeps giving. Nuclear is criminally insane and must be ended. Criminal nukers and their lapdog "scientists" r…

        • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

          my avatar pic is an image of the CGS reactor during removal of spent nuclear fuel assemblies. CGS sits on a recently discovered fault line. it sits below Wanapum Dam. Wanapum has a YUUUUUUUUGE crack in it that had to be emergency rush repaired last summer. Wanapum Dam is very tall and if it were to fail it would wash all that Hanford nuke waste downstream in a massive flood surge. Cities and the environment would be horribly contaminated and possibly uninhabitable for thousands of years. Portland OR. Kennewick WA. Richland WA. Pasco WA. Longview WA. Kelso WA. Astoria OR. Corvallis OR. Just to name a few of the larger population centers that would be contaminated by a radioactive flood surge if the Wanapum Dam fails. Nuclear is criminally insane. The risks so obviously outweigh the questionable "benefits." Nuclear is the science of Satan and it's fruit is death, disease and misery. People like James Conca, Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton and their nuker cohorts must be exposed as sociopaths who profit from nuclear and propagate lies about "nuclear safety" in order to line their pockets at the expense of US. There is no such thing as "nuclear safety." it is a myth built upon lies from paid off pro nuclear "scientists" who rig, manipulate and outright fabricate studies about the health dangers of radioactivity from reactors. Learn the Truth from people like Kevin Blanch; a real hero.
          Ban Reactors Forever
          Clean Up the Death Wastes
          Death Sentences for…

          • from a distance from a distance

            Regarding the Columbia Generating Station:

            Mimi German and NoNukes NW are working to get the Columbia Generating Station shut down.

            Learn more here:


          • HoTaters HoTaters

            BanReactorsForever, thank you for giving us a recap on the Columbia Generating Station. The problem with the dam is downplayed, as are the other issues at Hanford. Your perspective is appreciated.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              The leaking single-walled storage tanks, and even some of the double-walled storage tanks, is very serious.

              My first cousin used to run the Sodium Reactor "Experiment" (breeder reactor experiment) there. He is still convinced to this day breeder reactors are the answer to the waste problem.

              He apparently was the COE (Chief Operating Engineer) there for several years.

              Imagine how I felt when I found out about the Green Runs, and the massive contamination of the Columbia River Basin from the Sodium Reactor Experiment.

              There are just no words ….

              • HoTaters HoTaters

                Several close, older relatives have told me he was the COE, although I didn't see it on his bio. I'm not sure that's something the chief officials there want to be common, public knowledge.

              • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

                Perhaps one day we will know every criminal act done by the nukers at Hanford. We already know of so many criminally insane actions done there.
                Hanford "Green Runs."
                Dumping Radioactive wastes drums into unlined trenches.
                Sodium Reactor experiments which washed untold amounts of radiation directly into the Columbia River.
                Willful disregard for basic worker protective measures that have resulted in many people being terribly harmed.
                Repeated cover-ups of leaking waste storage tanks.
                Failure to report spilled plutonium bearing waste liquids onto Washington State highways and roads.
                Awarding bloated DOE contracts to known corrupt thieving multinational corporations like Bechtel.
                Pushing forward with criminally reckless engineering plans for the construction of the multi-billion $$$ waste vitrification plant. Only when whistle blower engineers came forward did DOE/Bechtel FINALLY admit their plan was FUBAR and "could result in an explosion that could spread high level nuclear waste into the environment."

            • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

              My goal is to inform new visitors to Enenews.com. Many of us who comment regularly know most of this recap info but if just one single new reader is activated by reading our comments then we have succeeded in a small but measurable way. That is why it is important to avoid the distraction bait of the nuker trolls and stay on message. WE THE PEOPLE are beating back the lies of nuclear. WE THE PEOPLE will never give up our righteous goal of a nuclear free planet. Thank The Lord for ENENEWS.COM

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    I'm just a hunk, a hunk of burning love
    Just a hunk, a hunk of burning love

  • theworldisalie theworldisalie

    I'm sure it has already aerosolized lots of fallout due to that festering nuclear shithole spewing into the environment for many decades. They say they don't want the fire to reach contaminated areas, welp, they missed that party when the fire started.

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


    Up in smoke: Hanford fire releases plutonium

    Ken Olsen | July 31, 2000 ***|

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Yes, and the classic nuke-speak from that article (quoted). And the spokes person can't even get her grammar straight. Isn't that supposed to say, "I'm very confident there aren't going to be any health problems…." ???? That really inspires confidence in me. I are a dufus?

      Breathing fire

      Energy officials say this is no cause for worry.

      "I'm very confident there isn't going to be any health problems," says Debra McBaugh of the Washington Health Department. Energy officials add that the amount of plutonium presents far less of a health risk than a typical dental X-ray.

      The amount of plutonium, between 10 and 100 times more radioactive than the normal "background" radiation levels found in the air around Hanford, is far below health-protection standards established by the Environmental Protection Agency and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, says Harry Boston, Hanford deputy manager.

  • Sol Man

    It was a beautiful dream, until they hurt their own babies, and it was over.

    The ponzis of nothing X nothing = zip; how did that benefit the People?

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    Hanford Hell Hole…


    Thursday, September 29, 2011

    "Waste: The Nuclear Nightmare" sheds light on low-level radioactive contamination in Washington State, Russia, Europe (& holds insights for Japan)

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


    Wildlife Biologist Mourns Habitat Loss From Range 12 Fire

    The Range 12 Fire in southeast Washington has destroyed some of the most sensitive shrub steppe habitat in the nation.

    Heidi Newsome is a wildlife biologist in the sand and sagebrush on the Hanford Reach National Monument. This is the third massive fire in just 16 years on this federally protected landscape she manages. …

  • Jebus Jebus

    UPDATE: Rattlesnake Mountain burned to protect Hanford, Benton City

    The backfire worked as planned.

    At about 11:30 a.m. Monday, the fire set on the northeast side of Rattlesnake Mountain burned into the Range 12 Fire that had been moving toward Hanford between highways 240 and 241 since Sunday.

    “Sometimes, you fight fire with fire,” said Marc Hollen, spokesman for the incident management team that took over Monday.


    Firefighters on Tuesday kept a large wildfire near the Hanford Site in Washington state within the already burned footprint. The edge of the fire area was outside the contaminated area of Hanford but within the Department of Energy facility’s security buffer, which is now managed as a national monument.


  • hbjon hbjon

    My friends, I'll make it clear. I'll state the facts of which I am certain. These fires are serious, but nothing compared to what we currently have ongoing from the FDNPP wreckage. The Titanic vs The Minnow.

  • Jebus Jebus

    It's all the sum of the parts just because, it's nuclear contamination.

    It all matters, incrementally.

    Some mole will take you out today.

    Some mole wont have you till tomorrow.

    Some mole touched you yesterday.

    Hanfords legacy is, burning into the winds.

    Fukushima's error, was yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

    There is no rewind. Sum of the parts.


    The world’s nuclear power plants mapped


    Credits to Scoop.it…

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


    There is a dangerous radiological threat to the West Coast of the United States that puts the health of millions of Americans at risk. It includes dangers to public health, dangers to the food supply, and dangers to future generations from long-lived radionuclides, including some of the most toxic material in the world. It is not Fukushima, it is Hanford. While radiation from the Fukushima nuclear meltdowns is reaching the West Coast, carried across the ocean from Japan, the radiation from Hanford is already there, has been there for 70 years, and is in serious risk of catastrophe that could dwarf the effects of Fukushima even on Japan.

    Hanford, on the Columbia River in Eastern Washington State, is the site where the United States produced the majority of its plutonium for nuclear weapons during the Cold War. These tens of thousands of American nuclear weapons were built as an end product of the high levels of plutonium production at Hanford. The first three nuclear reactors on Earth were built at Hanford, with a total of nine nuclear power plants being built there eventually. Nuclear power plants operated for ten years in this world before they were ever used to generate electricity. Electricity is a secondary purpose for nuclear power plants, they were designed and built as plutonium manufacturing plants.


  • Ah, so Admin wasn't captured by "them" LOL

  • freebywill

    EPA Sadnet Stn at Richland missing data from 2016-07-24 01:07:38
    to 2016-07-28 16:59:28 ( times are UTC )

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


    …The fire was just 20 percent contained Tuesday, but a large area had been burned on Rattlesnake Mountain and nearby land on the Hanford Reach National Monument to keep the fire from spreading to Benton City or the Hanford nuclear reservation.

    Firefighters sacrificed the mountain, which is part of one of the last shrub steppe ecosystems in the Columbia Basin, to prevent a repeat of the 24 Command Fire in June 2000. That wildfire burned the mountain and spread across Hanford, threatening radioactive waste storage areas, and destroyed 11 homes in Benton City. …

  • We Not They Finally

    WHAT??? The "wake-up call" might be even more blatant, obvious mass death than the slower deaths we are already up against?

  • from a distance from a distance

    Great to see you back Enenews Admin. Thanks for all you do.

  • from a distance from a distance

    Speaking of danger …

    “Five years ago, Southern Nuclear Operating Company identified a key atomic reactor safety risk: the potential for hydrogen generated from an atomic reactor meltdown to seriously damage the containment of the AP1000 atomic reactor at Vogtle Units 3 and 4."


  • Jebus Jebus


    Determination of isotopic ratios of plutonium and uranium in soil samples by thermal ionization mass spectrometry

    Isotopic ratios of plutonium and uranium in soil samples were investigated, in order to understand the level of contamination with plutonium and uranium released at the accident of Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. At first, plutonium and uranium were recovered from the standard reference soil/sediment materials by extraction/ion-exchange chromatography, and their isotope compositions were analyzed by TIMS. By applying our analytical technique to soil samples obtained from Fukushima prefecture, a possibility of atmospheric release of nuclear fuel material during the accident of FDNPP was discussed. The contamination with uranium was under detection limit, while that with plutonium was observed.


  • Byrian420 says SAtan changed the text in my KJV bible sitting on the shelf for 25 years.

    Sorry, "he" doesnt have that power. And this exposes Byrian420 for what it is…a tool sent by the nukists that be to make this site look shitty.

    Admin, ban now. These types of "hits" do not help. Mahalo

    • Byrian420 Byrian420

      That's why you were begging me for my spread sheets which by the way I still have in case you still want them. Yes he does have that power open yours eyes all ready nobody snuck into your house and made all them changes I presented to you and you verified them for yourself. How much longer are you going to act like its not really happened when there are literally ThOUSANDS if not MILLIONS of people who say the same exact thing I do. I have sites, references, spread sheets, hardcore undeniable proof yet you still have the wool pulled over your eyes. You know you'll be the first one to be deceived along with a few others on here I tried to warn you of what's going on considering this site is all about the truth. Now I'm not a troll but a tool sent by the nukist to make this site look shitty LOL really I've never been for nukes not one time or will I ever be. You people can't handle the truth cause the truth is stranger than reality!!

      • Jebus Jebus

        Message received. Wrong site, wrong thread, wrong reality, man…

      • Eff you, I did not "verify for myself"

        Damn you, nuke troll worker, shame and leave now!

        • Byrian420 Byrian420

          July 26, 2016 at 1:42 am
          Please send those spreadsheets to me for review.


          My KJV Bible from 1997 matches the "new" quotes that you say are altered.

          But in terms of the Jonas or Jonah, most bible versions use Jonah, KJV uses Jonas and has for a long time.


          Really I must not be smoking enough lol damn your memory sucks along with your buddy CodeHutDown who threatened me. I mean, you seriously can't remember typing this Stock? Have a nice day who's the troll now? Peace and much love

          • Byrian420 Byrian420

            "KJV uses Jonas and has for a long time". No the KJV never have used JONAS. Its always been JONAH. Even if you don't believe it you still verified it yourself by saying "My KJV Bible from 1997 matches the "new" quotes that you say are altered". Stock do really think I can't go back and find the comments you and others posted. They're all there for everybody to read and soon enough you'll be regretting every word you posted. The Mandela Effect is going away and we're not shutting up about it either.

            • Byrian420 Byrian420

              The Mandela Effect isn't* going away

            • aunavoz

              B420 .. here is a scan of the original 1611 kjv bible verse referenced above matthew 12:40 and it clearly says jonas.


              If you want to prove definitively that the Bible has been changed suggest you contact the curators holding this bible and ask them to rescan the page for you ..

              Good luck with that .. in the meantime .. no one is interested .. agree w jebus ..

              Wrong site .. wrong thread .. wrong reality.

              • Byrian420 Byrian420

                Thank you for making my point because it used to say JONAH not Jonas. Sure Stock is interrested considering he was asking for my spread sheets.

                • Byrian420 Byrian420

                  aunavoz my question to you is. why doses the original bible from 1611 say JONAS but then other peoples bibles say JONAH. There's obviously been a change and the change is from CERN to usher in the anti-chtist. It used to say JONAH not JONAS. Anybody who is really a christian will know this. Your another one who has the wool pulled over your face and you'll be one of the first to be deceived. You to will be regretting every word you said against me.

      • OK guys…

        …the Holy Bible is, in reality, a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy.

        I personally think hat the King James Version has allot of power!!! After all he was a king and could have spent his time doing anything he pleased so I think that GOD helped him to translate and gave him wisdom and truth in his translation.


        ALL this is subject to interpretation and can misleading if your heart isn't in the right place. This is true in particular when a person "jumps" from chapter to chapter to try to prove a personal point.

        The earth, our children and our grandchildren's grandchildren are in desperate need of our help and this kind of juvenile crap only lends creed to the ones that want to discredit our legitimate efforts to inform the "uninformed" about what's really going on in our world.


        The first thing that is taught to a warrior (and we are warriors for the earth and it's future) is to not get insulted or "loose it" when in battle.

        And we are currently in THE battle for our children's future!!!

        Don't believe it? Do believe it?

        How about lesson from our mainstream society to prove the point…

        Warning strong language…


        Let's stay "on point" and spend our time looking for solutions.

        And for the record Stock has been right on point with all his links and replies that I have read so far on ENE…

        • And by the way calling someone a troll is like calling a African the "n" word. Best be damn sure your right and saying that won't accomplish anything worthwhile anyway…

          United we stand, divided we fall… Duh. 🙁

        • PlowboyGrownUp

          Ya Hippie, that video depicts it pretty good. First day, all smiles go away.

            • Silverlok Silverlok

              …and as a side note:

              The King James bible contains over 37,000 'translation' errors that benefit King James..

              even though Francis Bacon was in charge of translating it.

              Francis Bacon was fluent in at least 5 languages. Two of those being Greek and Hebrew.

              Now dial the clock a bit farther back (325 a.d.) and we have the 'conference' at Nicaea. A thing for which Constantine murdered his wife and child ( because he was afraid they would steal his throne if he left them alive while he was gone) to preside over.

              At Nicaea, The original FIVE books (chapters if you are so inclined) that were thought to be of (even more)ancient Hebrew origin were "supplemented" with additional books (chapters) by 'consensus'. That 'consensus' consisted of physical fist fights, the physical destruction of many texts, the exclusion of many books (including the very interesting book of Enoch)and the totally political creation of the "holy" trinity;The Father,The son,The Holy ghost…simply as an expedient to get all parties to agree to what the Bible would be and represent: for the greater power of all involved at Nicaea, and not for the great good of truth or clarity.

              Not at all unlike our current political/religious and financial collusions surrounding Nukers in general and places like FUKUshima and Hanford specifically

              • Silverlok Silverlok

                …also,if one is interested in the truth, one should learn about 'Pliny the elder'( and how he died:hint Nero )and what 'Pliny the younger'(and friends)did in response (hint: traveled around the Mediterranean writing 'books' under 'pen names' that just happen to be the same as the names of the disciples and 'prophets'…)

                oh, and one may want to ponder why the Gregorian calendar (that we use today and was implimented by Gregory XIII, whom was so sex crazed, refused to be alone in the room with his own sister becausehe was 'afraid' he might rape her)has every week day named after a pagan god symbolism;

                Friday: Freya
                Saturday; Saturn
                Sunday: The Sun
                Monday: The Moon
                Tuesday: Aries/mars( from the norse god: Tyr )

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Well, as I recall, New Zealand used to be in Lake Superior…

  • stock here

    Sorry for my relative absence. Doing a Hawaiian style Lu'au this weekend, 180 lb pig in the ground and full on Hawaiian feast. As well as finishing up 20 projects, good ones. 60 to 90 people kine party, so it will be epic.

    And my well stopped pumping last Friday, diagnosed, and ramped up to a complete replacement….my own labor and engineering, 2 helpers.

    Good to see Admin back too.

    • Byrian420 Byrian420

      Is this Facebook now? Nobody cares, well at least I don't.

      • Byrian420 Byrian420

        But it is good to see admin back that part I do care about.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        stock adds value, Byrian takes away value.

        Byrian, if you are certain CERN ushered in the anti christ changing history, how can you be absolutely certain you werent transformed into a schizophrenic? Occam's razor stipulates scrambling your brain is more likely than scrambling all the bibles, right? The other possibility is you are schizo before CERN. Why you cant believe Im Elvis is beyond me, thats small potatoes compared to the rest of your lunatic reality.

        Ban this troll, make it a report comment jubilee

        BTW GOM, it was Angela who gave us the bit that CERN is steering the earth away from the big attractor. There is great latitude for points of view but there is a line crossed way too many times that has trashed ENEnews, so thats why I am calling it out

        Dont be an enabler!

        • Yea (what a crock of, well you know) that whole CERN thing is a distraction from the truth! Recon how much power that thing uses daily. Global warming? Plant a tree and stop wasting our resources on things that don't (and will NEVER) matter or make a difference for our children.

          Take all that CERN and Mars research money and put it into our future instead of crazy claims on how they will eventually do something meaningful with it. Just plain silly to spend that cash and energy to do nothing while children go hungry!

          I believe the proper phrase is "clean up your own backyard first"…

          No real door (CERN) will be opened and that craziness is for the misinformed and star trek crowd!

          • SadieDog

            Really? "that whole CERN thing…". Ha, ha.

            • Angela_R

              Trouble is, SadieDog it isn't “Ha, Ha,” is it…

              There is a by many failure to look for the seeds of truth in any statement. I note Dr David Lewis Anderson is a skilled, well trained physicist.

              They didn't bother to watch this – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D5elTmcD4o
              But then, it was put in The Off Topic Thread.

              Consider what would happen if fear over-rides and caution is thrown to the wind.

              After all, that is what occurred back in 1945. Then it was fear that allowed the nuclear bomb; now, nuclear is just one of many concerns.

              But doesn't this relate to Nuclear?
              The D waves?

              Maybe incorrect, but I think it was nuclear research that helped to open this field.

              • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                Oppenheimer has returned through a portal at CERN. He says "I am become death, destroyer of threads."

              • NOT sure what you mean but…

                You simply can't go (or be) someplace that doesn't exist…

                …THINK! Yesterday is gone, it doesn't exist, tomorrow hasn't happened yet, it doesn't exist. You can't be there, period. No way to go someplace that doesn't exist.

                Time is the common fabric of our universe. Feed a hungry child and do something positive with your life while you still can!!! Do something REAL for the world you take up space in, this is the real truth, all else is madness and/or nonsense.

                I'm a Hendrix fan and the rainbow is real but the search for a pot of gold leaves us all wanting. Try to see this simple truth and not be sucked in by lairs or fools.

                It's not complicated and there are plenty of glue sniffer drug addicts and fools that will tell you anything to get something from you and then take whatever you give to the pawn shop.

                We just don't have the time or money to spend looking at fairy tales, we need to work here on earth, right now, right here, without any myths or distractions from people that talk a big game and produce nothing.

                If you knew anything about time or what binds this whole universe together you would already know this simple mathematical fact. It's not complicated, you simply can't be somewhere that doesn't exist…

                …and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the nuke industry was involved somehow.

                naught into naught equals naught times naught divided by naught = NOT THERE or ~ 0…

      • Its kind of an explanation as to why I haven't been jousting your silly arse off this website. Begone, fool.

  • freebywill

    Some Hanford Mess Events from http://hanfordproject.com/timeline.html

    October 1948 Waste pond dike breaks releasing 28 pounds of uranium into Columbia River.

    December 1949 The Green Run experiment releases 7,780 curies of iodine-131, 20,000 curies of xenon-133 into the atmosphere.

    July 1951 Iodine filters at Hanford processing plant fail. HEDR estimates 34,360 curies of radioiodine released in 1951 alone.

    February 1955 300 curies of ruthenium-106 released from REDOX Plant. 300 curies of ruthenium-106 released from REDOX Plant.

    December 1955 Startup of KW and KE Reactors—one of which experiences a partial fuel melt-down at startup.

    April 1962 Accident at Plutonium Finishing Plant releases 1,200 curies of radioactive gasses.

    May 1973 Seattle Post Intelligencer reports billions of gallons of low-level wastes were discharged into ground for 30 years at Hanford.

    June 1973 Hanford officials publicly announce a 115,000 gallon leak in tank 106-T.

    October 1992 HEDR announces 70 percent increase in iodine-131 releases than previously estimated.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    "Energy Northwest spokesman John Dobken called the fire’s distance from the reactor a “non-issue,”…"

    "Changing the safety approach following Fukushima: probabilistic vs deterministic

    Currently nuclear regulators and industry use two basic analytical approaches for evaluating nuclear safety. The probabilistic approach is based on the likelihood of something occurring. With a deterministic approach, there exists the assumption that there will be a failure of some kind. Following the Fukushima Daiichi accident, these concepts will be better balanced for evaluating nuclear safety in both technical and organisational areas to ensure that nuclear power is made even safer."


    Lessens ignored.

    Deny the future

  • from a distance from a distance

    Radiation causes Microcephaly ==>

    If there are future birth defects of MICROCEPHALY in that area, they will be blamed on the Zika virus.

    The Zika virus, until recently known as a HARMLESS virus.

    But now it's being blamed for cases of microcephaly.

    Where else did cases of microcephaly suddenly occur =>

    * After Chernobyl

    * Around Hanford

    * Hiroshima

    "Mental retardation and growth restriction, including microcephaly, are the most common fetal malformations after significant radiation exposure during organogenesis and the early fetal period."

    SOURCE: Health Effects of Prenatal Radiation Exposure

    • Jebus Jebus

      It is the only proven birth defect documented from the nuclear weapons dropped upon Hiroshima and Nagasaki…

      • Jebus Jebus

        After the dropping of atomic bombs "Little Boy" on Hiroshima and "Fat Man" on Nagasaki, several women close to ground zero who had been pregnant at the time gave birth to children with microcephaly.[24] Microcephaly prevalence was seven of a group of 11 pregnant women at 11–17 weeks of gestation who survived the blast at less than 1.2 km (0.75 mi) from ground zero. Due to their proximity to the bomb, the pregnant women's in utero children received a biologically significant radiation dose that was relatively high due to the massive neutron output of the lower explosive-yielding Little Boy.[25] Microcephaly is the only proven malformation, or congenital abnormality, found in the children of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.[25]



        • from a distance from a distance

          Great info, Jebus.

          Now they're trying to tweak and ignore medical history and blame the Zika virus for microcephaly, when Zika was historically known as a "harmless" virus.

          Plus they are using Zika as an excuse to aerial spray toxic mosquito spray in areas where they find the Zika virus.

          This toxic insecticide could conceivably cause MORE health problems than mosquito bites, especially in pregnant women who should not be exposed to toxic insecticides.

          Always a knee-jerk reaction when there's a problem and never a common-sense solution!

          Natural and non-toxic way to get rid of mosquitos ==>


          • Jebus Jebus

            It's the results we receive when we remove parts of the whole.

            Like dragonflies, swallowtails, spiders and bats…

            Yet we fog more toxins for all to supply instant human comfort…

          • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

            Bill Gates trying to release his GMO (Citrix?) mosquitoes into Florida to "sterilize" the zika mosquitoes. Gates' GMO mosquitoes contain DNA from Herpes virus, multiple types of dangerous bacteria and multiple plants. Tiny traces of Tetracycline in the water will allow these supposedly "infertile" mosquito larvae to mature and become a whole new GMO hybrid animal on the loose… Studies actually show that 15% of the Gates GMO mosquito hybrid progeny survive to adulthood and fly free in the wild. This is either a very stupid experiment or it is more likely an execution of Bill Gates admitted plan to "reduce global population." Eugenics

  • Jebus Jebus

    Sadly, it's not a magic garden…

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    There is a ton of Hanford dirt on youtube. What a rabbit hole. Thanks admin, for keepin' it real.

    The Most Contaminated Site In North America: Hanford Nuclear Waste

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    Cemetery full of dead babies missing brains next to US nuclear site — Funeral Director: Almost all infants we have died the same way… “that’s pretty much all I see on death certificates” — Few miles from “most contaminated place in hemisphere” — “One of largest documented anencephaly clusters in US history” (VIDEO)

    (see related stories)

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "An underground fire forced nearly 100 people to evacuate their homes Wednesday morning in East Orange. Officials say the fire started on South Burnett Street between Central and Elmwood avenues." East Orange, New Jersey http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/database/index.php?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=FR-20160804-54408-USA

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "PG&E 'Equipment Failure' Causes SF Manhole Explosion, Underground Fire, And Power Outage" San Francisco

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "MILWAUKEE —The Wisconsin Center in downtown Milwaukee was briefly evacuated Tuesday afternoon due to an underground electrical fire. "

  • Please email me if situation escalates to calamity. Too busy lately which will likely lead to not recieving adequate evacuation notices in a timely manner.
    Ty in advance
    P.s. fml

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "BRIDGETON, Mo. (KMOX) – The EPA released new data showing the underground fire at the Bridgeton landfill is much closer than originally thought to the nuclear waste from the Manhattan Project."
    The EPA made the mistake of trying to think.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Range 12 Fire now 90% contained.
    Expected to be 100% contained today.
    Fire details here are frequently updated.

    Zoom in on map here to see fire perimeter for Range 12 Fire.
    Site covers Washington and Oregon.
    This fire is burning from west to east, towards Hanford Nuclear Reservation, just to the East of the fire.

    Now 90% contained.

    Expect this emergency to be over today. 😉

    On the other hand:
    Expect the Hanford Nuclear Reservation to be completely over run by wildfire at some time in the future, with catastrophic results.
    Need some urgency to quicken the pace of the cleanup!

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Many thanks, Admin.
    Nice to know you are still around.
    Busy with other things?

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


    2 Hanford workers checked for possible vapor exposure
    on August 04, 2016 at 7:02 AM, updated August 04, 2016 at 8:38 AM

    TRI-CITIES, Wash. — Two more Hanford Nuclear Reservation workers have received medical evaluations for possible exposure to chemical vapors after reporting a suspicious odor.

    The Tri-City Herald reports that both workers had symptoms Wednesday but were evaluated and released to return to work. A third worker who smelled the odor declined a medical evaluation.

    The incident came a day after a federal judge ordered protections for Hanford workers, including a requirement that air respirators be worn inside the tank farms and no work be done to disturb waste unless necessary for safety reasons.

    The workers affected Wednesday had been outside the AY-Tank Farm and not required to wear air respirators.

    There are now 57 workers who have received medical evaluations for possible vapor exposure in recent months.

    — The Associated Press

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


    Legal action over Hanford safety heats up with judge's ruling
    Susannah Frame, KING 10:28 PM. PDT August 02, 2016

    A federal judge ruled Tuesday that the U.S. Department of Energy and the contractor managing millions of gallons of nuclear waste at the Hanford Site must take interim measures to better protect workers from poisonous gases.

    The ruling by District Court Judge Thomas O. Rice came after Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson filed an emergency legal motion on July 20 asking the judge to intervene in the operations at the nuclear cleanup site to protect workers from continued exposure to toxic chemical vapors.
    … …

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


    … …By folding that remediation into a universally understood ‘progress’ and speaking of it in terms of a return to an earlier state of wholeness, the violent implications of nuclear technology are referenced and quickly put to rest. The strategic necessity of maintaining (and occasionally deploying) nuclear weapons, long portrayed as unfortunate but unavoidable in the context of international politics, is thus extended inward, onto the territory it was meant to protect. Its catastrophically destructive potential, the logic seems to go, can when placed in sufficiently capable hands not only be managed but targeted to achieve a speedy return to pristine nature, to the utopia that haunts environmental politics. The state is imagined into eternity, as the ideal steward of its own engineered idyll, where all risk is finite and manageable. … …

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    Study Slams Nuclear Waste Practices at Hanford
    By Dylan Walsh
    February 5, 2013

    …“By just about any definition,” the auditing agency says, “Hanford has not been a well-planned, well-managed or well-executed major capital construction project.”

    …Some officials involved in the project cast its unparalleled complexity rather than mismanagement as the source of the setbacks. In his resignation letter last week, the Secretary of Energy, Stephen Chu, described Hanford as “the most complex and largest nuclear project in history.”

    One problem identified in the latest audit is that over 40 years of plutonium production involving many different processes, little priority was given to keeping a detailed waste inventory. As a result, engineers now face a severe dearth of information about the waste contained in each of the 177 underground tanks – knowledge essential to separation of the waste streams.

    …Gary Brunson, the Energy Department’s director of engineering for the treatment plant until his own resignation last month, recommended in a memo memo to Dr. Chu in December that construction should “be stopped to avoid further nuclear safety compromises and substantial rework.”

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://www.kvue.com/news/local/catastrophic-event-at-hanford-prompts-emergency-response/141301710 April 18, 2016
    "'Catastrophic' Event at Hanford"

    … The Washington state Department of Ecology said, "There is no indication of waste leaking into the environment or risk to the public at this time."

    But one former tank farm worker said the leak should be considered a major problem.

    “This is catastrophic. This is probably the biggest event to ever happen in tank farm history. The double shell tanks were supposed to be the saviors of all saviors (to hold waste safely from people and the environment),” said former Hanford worker Mike Geffre.

    Geffre is the worker who first discovered that the tank, known as AY-102, was failing in 2011. In a 2013 series, “Hanford’s Dirty Secrets," the KING 5 Investigators exposed that the government contractor in charge of the tanks, Washington River Protection Solutions (WRPS), ignored Geffre’s findings for nearly a year. The company finally admitted the problem in 2012.

    Until now, the leak found by Geffre was very slow. The liquid would almost immediately dry up, leaving a salt-like substance on the floor of the two-foot space between the tank's walls, called the annulus.

    Approximately three weeks ago, work began to pump out the contents of AY-102, which has the capacity to hold one million gallons of the deadly waste. The state of Washington has been pressuring the federal government, which owns Hanford…

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    Excellent research and posts! An ENEnews you can believe in. Thanks Jebus, Hillbilly, Plowboy, Freebywill, Vital1 and all the others. May your efforts not be lost in the radioactive wind


    The wildfire may resuspend some contamination (a la the Chernobyl wildfires), but the much bigger issue remains the leaking tanks. Looked into how bad their contents really are awhile back: "The Hanford Site, holding the Pacific Northwest at Nuclear Gunpoint"

    !-> @ https://allegedlyapparent.wordpress.com/2013/05/30/the-hanford-site-holding-the-pacific-northwest-at-nuclear-gunpoint/

    Visited the area (if you want some photos of Reactor B & surroundings):

    @ https://allegedlyapparent.wordpress.com/2013/05/30/my-visit-to-hanfords-reactor-b-worlds-first-full-scale-plutonium-factory/

    Data gaps at nearby Richland, WA's Radnet monitor might have nothing to do with Hanford, as the same can be found elsewhere, including upwind, and in Europe. Some of the disturbances seen on monitors lately could be late effects of what went down in April (2016), as wondered about in (July 22, 2016)"Fukushima-Daiichi having FISSION Flare-Ups? Saudi Arabia Test a Nuclear Bomb? A Major Nuclear Meltdown Cover-Up Somewhere? Which one is it???"

    @ https://allegedlyapparent.wordpress.com/2016/07/22/fukushima-daiichi-having-fission-flare-ups-saudi-arabia-test-a-nuclear-bomb-a-major-nuclear-meltdown-cover-up-somewhere-which-one-is-it/

    Tip on trolls: Just ignore them. https://hatrickpenry.wordpress.com/2016/01/14/why-do-trolls-fight-trolls/

  • Thank you for the article! This is one of key reasons to be afraid of nuclear reactors. The problem is that once an earthquake, or fire, or terrorist attack is close by, a nuclear disaster may happen and destroy the local environment completely, as it already happened at the Chernobyl nuclear disaster https://nuclear-disaster.com

    Bless it did not happen now, but as long as there is any risk, he usage of nuclear power plants would be reduced for the better, and replaced with less risky options. Especially now when other alternative energy options are becoming more cost effective.

  • theworldisalie theworldisalie

    I love the smell of burning plutonium in the morning.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Poison In The Heart: The Nuclear Wasting Of South Australia

    “Nuclear weapons and nuclear power are both leading instances of the irrationalities that result from a social world that has been constructed to concentrate power in the hands of tiny minorities, and to make it possible for them to maintain and defend their power.” – Andrew Lichterman, 2012

    Our planet is deeply burdened. It presently harbours 390,000 tons of high level nuclear waste produced by nuclear reactors and weapons programs over the past 70 years. Spent nuclear fuel is one of the most dangerous materials on earth. Most of it is stored underwater in numerous cooling ponds throughout the world. High level nuclear waste is dangerous to all life for unthinkable periods of time. Plutonium, which is produced in every nuclear fuel rod, has a toxic lifespan of 240,000 years. With each passing year, a further 10,000 tons of spent fuel is added to the world’s accumulated stores of deadly waste. In addition to the spent fuel from nuclear reactors, vast amounts of lower-level radioactive waste lie scattered in mining sites, tailings dams, undersea dumps and soil-borne contamination on every continent.


    • Angela_R

      "Our planet is deeply burdened. It presently harbours 390,000 tons of high level nuclear waste produced by nuclear reactors and weapons programs over the past 70 years"

      Yes, Jebus.

      "Spent nuclear fuel is one of the most dangerous materials on earth. Most of it is stored underwater in numerous cooling ponds throughout the world. High level nuclear waste is dangerous to all life for unthinkable periods of time"

      Yes Jebus.

      "Plutonium, which is produced in every nuclear fuel rod, has a toxic lifespan of 240,000 years"

      Yes Jebus.

      "In addition to the spent fuel from nuclear reactors, vast amounts of lower-level radioactive waste lie scattered in mining sites, tailings dams, undersea dumps and soil-borne contamination on every continent"

      Yes Jebus.

      Sorry, but some people seemed to believe that the waste would disappear when the plants were closed. Unfortunately many times the nuclear waste has gone ex containment and been released into the environment. And when they buried it, didn't they realize that it was 'out of containment'…..

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      There is also the practice of putting the waste in remote areas. This would, ostensibly, reduce danger to major population centers.

      The practice also helps to hide accidents, leakage, spills, venting off, the effects of fires, earthquakes, other natural disasters well. Damage to the environment/biosphere is also less visible or invisible to the casual observer or non-observer.

      Radiation is invisible so its effects are not readily observed.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      The area in So. Australia where the port will be built is a beautiful, rural haven where a small University lies. It is also home to a struggling steel refining industry. Was the need to prop up the local economy dangled like a carrot to some of the local decision makers? How well informed are local residents?

      Inland, there is of course the potential harm to the environment and local indigenous people to consider.

      This article approaches the siting of the waste facility from an economic standpoint. It also argues the site has little seismic activity. Both are good arguments on the surface for building the site.


      "It is this 'future of the state' that had made this report so significant. South Australia is currently suffering from issues stemming from the wavering viability of its major industrial and manufacturing industries, and subsequent unemployment increases and demographic decline. Attracting major new industries to the state has become vital….

      Furthermore, South Australia lies in the center of the Indo-Australian tectonic plate, and as a result has extremely low-levels of seismic activity, making an occurrence like the Fukushima disaster in Japan highly improbable."


      • HoTaters HoTaters

        The Maralinga nuclear weapons testing was sited in a remote area in Australia. It was a disaster.

        The Maralinga site lies to the northwest of the currently proposed port for receiving nuclear waste, at Whyalla.


        See this:



        See "Marlinga People Tell Their Story" here. Many other videos.

        Residents reported being exposed to extremely high levels of radiation. They were not warned nor was anything done to protect them from the fallout. Aboriginal people continued to use lands near the site for six years. Many reported serious injury and death. Their claims were dismissed because they didn't have "written documentation" and lacked medical records.

        RE: the proposed site, it is close to the Maralinga site.

        Here is a news story and "short list" of the six proposed sites for the waste storage facility:


        Note the city of Whyalla on the map, where the proposed port facility for receiving the waste is located.


        See below for comments on the Maralinga testing, and nuclear testing in Australia.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        But first, a study by the Australian Institute of Criminology. From Publications, Australian studies in law, crime and justice.

        Chapter 16: A toxic legacy: British nuclear weapons testing in Australia

        Published in: Wayward governance:
        illegality and its control in the public sector / P N Grabosky
        Canberra : Australian Institute of Criminology, 1989
        ISBN 0 642 14605 5
        (Australian studies in law, crime and justice series); pp. 235-253


        Nuclear Waste Storage Facility (Prohibition) Act 2000


        This Act of Parliament in South Australia prohibits the establishment of nuclear waste storage facilities in South Australia. It prohibits the establishment of any nuclear waste storage facility.

        See "interpretation" in Section 4.

        There is a fierce battle underway to develop uranium deposits in Australia. The people there are in a fierce fight of opposition to building of these facilities.

        The British nuclear testing of the 1950's and 1960's left a toxic and deadly legacy, which is fresh on the minds of many Australians who understand the nuclear legacy.

        An example:


      • HoTaters HoTaters

        First, a study by the Australian Institute of Criminology. From Publications, Australian studies in law, crime and justice.

        Chapter 16: A toxic legacy: British nuclear weapons testing in Australia

        Published in: Wayward governance:
        illegality and its control in the public sector / P N Grabosky
        Canberra : Australian Institute of Criminology, 1989
        ISBN 0 642 14605 5
        (Australian studies in law, crime and justice series); pp. 235-253


        Nuclear Waste Storage Facility (Prohibition) Act 2000


        This Act of Parliament in South Australia prohibits the establishment of nuclear waste storage facilities in South Australia. It prohibits the establishment of any nuclear waste storage facility.

        See "interpretation" in Section 4.

        There is a fierce battle underway to develop uranium deposits in Australia. The people there are in a fierce fight of opposition to building of these facilities.

        The British nuclear testing of the 1950's and 1960's left a toxic and deadly legacy, which is fresh on the minds of many Australians who understand the nuclear legacy.

        An example:


        • HoTaters HoTaters

          The definition of nuclear waste as defined in the 2000 Act from the South Australian Parliament. From the original definition found in the Radiation Protection and Control Act of 1992.

          The 1992 Act:


          The Provisions in Section 4 of the Nuclear Waste Storage Facility (Prohibition) Act 2000


          In this Act—

          "Code of Practice" means the Code of Practice for the Near-Surface Disposal of Radioactive Waste in Australia (1992) approved by the National Health and Medical Research Council and published by the Australian Government Publishing Service as Radiation Health Series No. 35 (ISBN 0 644 28673 3);

          "environmental harm" has the same meaning as in the Environment Protection Act 1993;

          "ionizing radiation" has the same meaning as in the Radiation Protection and Control Act 1982"

          The Act of Parliament was "assented to" in 2000.

          Question for Vital1, other Ozzies familiar with Acts of Parliaments in Australia. Does "assent" mean the same thing as passage, adoption, as in U.S. laws, Acts of Congress?

          Will the will of the people be bypassed to exploit the uranium resources of Australia? Will Acts of Parliament be subverted to develop one or more nuclear waste storage facilities, aka, "dumps" in Australia? (I leave it to you to determine if "dumps" is a more appropriate term for what is proposed.)

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            OK, OT here, but I'm donning the rogerthat approach today. And I'm not sure who is reading the Nuclear topics Forum.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              Archived in a file today in case these comments ever need to be referred to ….

              • HoTaters HoTaters

                We really should archive our comments in case we ever decide to write about these things and publish.

                • DUDe DUDe

                  "..We really should archive our comments in case we ever decide to write about these things and publish.."

                  Thats funny HoTaters , i dreamed last night that i was advising/begging the same back in time to a regular here who had some great insights and explanations about the potassium thing..for the same reason..

                  It would reaaly be a tremendous help if the forum had the option to view and save all posts by the user at once..At Least the own ones..

                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    DUDe, yes, we have discussed this before. What happens if Admin gets hacked, the server is compromised, etc.? Hoping Admin has that covered. I'm sure it has been considered.

                    Some of us have discussed this before. There is such a wealth of information and solid research here it would be a shame to see it be lost. I archive most of my comments when I get on a research jag. Just in case I ever want to compile it and publish it.

                    At this point, I'm not ready to come out of my Internet closet and publish under my own name. Have to stop the rants and give at least the appearance of an, ahem, serious professional.

                    I don't know what Google's policy is on something like what you suggested. Google seems to think everything is their property once it gets "published" using their software. Or people have argued that point in the past.

                    Basta la pasta, grab that comment before you forget where you saw it.

                    I'm not sure some of the posters want their comments captured by others. I've seen some of mine re-posted w/o my knowledge. When it appears on a forum/website I find not to be representative of my personal point of view, or seems to distort my point, it can be disturbing. Plus I like to edit (do lots & lots of editing) before publishing.

                    'Best day to you, ever.

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      "..I'm not sure some of the posters want their comments captured by others.."

                      Understood , thats why i said at Least the own ones..like on a VB bulletin forum or whatever its called..but then limited to the original creater of the posts only for safety..


                      And an option to download them all as a package would be simple awesome..

                      He/she could then choose to share those by email or something with other persons of choice..

                      It would garantee one can always find their own posts back no matter how old..and the links to the original thread and related feedback from others as a bonus..

                      If i could have an overview over everything thats been said about a certain subject or theory in an attempt to explain something..it could trigger the needed aha-erhlebnis to succed in explaining it in a way to makes the mass understands..

                      "..its all there.." aint cutting it in this place..lol

                      And ofcourse i only saved a handfull of my own posts..that i regret deeply now..

                      A good day to you too HoTaters

          • Angela_R

            In reply to Ho @ 3.04pm

            had thought to take your comments from here to the Nuclear Forum but I felt the gist of what was written might be lost.

            Thank you for providing the laws of the relevant State. Unlike the US, the powers for the determination of Land in Australia was not handed over at Federation; mining and land matters remain in the domain of the individual State.

            I am drawn to comment on the following:
            "Nuclear Waste Storage Facility (Prohibition) Act 2000
            This Act of Parliament prohibits the establishment of any nuclear waste storage facilities in South Australia."

            In the light of this Act, I would think that to be conducting discussions on the establishment of a nuclear storage facility in South Australia is unconscionable.

            However, the Federal Government can prevent the import of Nuclear Waste. It is to be hoped that they remove the dollars signs from before their eyes, regain their sanity and refuse to allow.

            ps. on present indications it is unlikely that any Nuclear enterprise will exist in twenty years. But in man's reckoning, who would then pay for the storage costs?

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              Angela_R, I concluded the same. Why is this discussion even taking place? Are the cowboys thinkin' of doin' another land grab over there in the Down Under?

              Circle the wagons, boys. We gotta git us all of dat der oor-ay-nee-um stuff. (Grabs a pinch of snuff, spits into his spitoon.)

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              Angela_R, I hear you. A dying "industry" in its last gasps.

              Ah, but all those nuclear ambitions.

              They must be reckoned with.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              BTW, I really enjoy legal research. Finding this Act of So. Australian Parliament and this:

              Radiation Protection and Control Act of 1992

              … was a really great find. Hope people found it helpful for putting the situation there into context.

  • 170,000 acres of land that was contaminated by Hanford years before the fire now burned and released massive amounts of sequestered radiation . Hanford also dumped billions of gallons into the soil in the 50s and has 41 miles of unlined trenches full of the most deadly radiation known to solar system . They use to hire local people to sit in cow pastures just outside the reactors and then purposely release radiation and test the victims in labs in the 50s 60s 70s and 80s . Hugs for everyone , keep up the good fight its worth it !!

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