Published: January 6th, 2012 at 8:49 am ET
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Actual Fukushima worker concerns about sub-contract companies’ withdrawal, Fukushima Diary, January 5, 2012 [Emphasis Added]:
An Actual Fukushima worker, Happy20790, stated one of the worst risks about the plants on his tweets on 12/30/2011.
Selected Tweets:
@Happy20790
As usual, problems with water decontamination continue on site. i wish we could soon switch to permanent gear.. how long will it still be ok with all that temporary pipes and stuffs. what i’m being most afraid of is that general contractor and plant maker may decide to either reduce the amount of work done at fukushima daiichi (1F) or even worse, decide to evacuate the facility and stop employing people altogether.
@Happy20790
Not even trying to come up with a good reason, major nuclear companies in japan, are starting to shift their staff away from 1F to other plants. Since building new reactors in Japan seems problematic right now, they start to focus on plants from foreign countries
@Happy20790
Despite Fukushima Daiichi plant still being in such a grave state, shifting staff away now, while work toward recovery is still taking place, looks very strange. Thinking that even at best times, there was simply just not enough capable hands.. [...]
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Published: January 6th, 2012 at 8:49 am ET
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This is a delicious moral dilemma for an armchair analyst (like me) – it’s a very alarming development for any living thing (oops, also me).
Consider: if you owned a nuke-related construction company, would you keep your people working at Fukushima, knowing the project could end (badly) at any time, knowing your employer is bankrupt and may never pay you, knowing that your people and resources are probably taking huge damage?… Would you stay out of a spirit of “humanity needs us to do the right thing”?
Before you say “of course they should stay”, consider…
There is no reason why any of us (myself included) could not have signed up as day-laborers any time in the last 9+ months. If we believe (as most of us do) that this is a huge crisis, and that it justifies huge sacrifices “for the good of all”, then why are we not helping them by putting ourselves in harm’s way?
Instead, we tend to stay home and say “they (always they) should or should not do this or that thing”.
Ain’t it awful!
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@aigeezer…..It concludes what i said in earlier posts.
Just because someone can use an I-Phone does not mean they can hold a screwdriver and not hurt themselves.
I have been looking at the spectrum of comments and it is often overlooked.
People who can hold screwdrivers or employ highly specialised knowledge are becoming extinct/scarce in the process of servicing their creation so that what will be left are those who walk the other way. If this is not taken into account, it will be the last example of an obvious problem the Hoso-no-hopers failed to consider.
Also, the segregation of troops is often employed to prevent them from seeing the big picture on their own.
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I might consider signing up if the people that took home profits from the nuclear industry were ahead of me in line…even if they don’t see the moral obligation, I think they should be forced to be on site, might cut down on the number of plant throughout the world if the owners were the first to step up.
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@many moons….The word **owners** is the magic word..That is the word which has all the sauce in it.
I can remember back in the good old days….
The Code of Hammurabi:
Code 66: If he do not plant the field that was given over to him as a garden, if it be arable land (for corn or sesame) the gardener shall pay the owner the produce of the field for the years that he let it lie fallow, according to the product of neighboring fields, put the field in arable condition and return it to its owner.
Code 223: If a builder build a house for some one, even though he has not yet completed it; if then the walls seem toppling, the builder must make the walls solid from his own means.
Code 229: If a builder build a house for some one, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built fall in and kill its owner, then that builder shall be put to death.
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That said, Obama’s reaction was to send the troops home from Japan military bases, scrub the decks of any fallout, and distract the troops in Libya. The very next day. It is a very similar pattern of behaviour.
If something else goes wrong in Nukes-ville, it might be a good excuse to be bored and bomb Iran or Syria….who knows//
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Creating a distraction or diversion is ALWAYS the tactic employed when TPTB are dealing with unpleasant realities. Oh, the $2.3 Trillion missing from the Pentagon announced 9/10/01? Well, let’s just have an airplane fly into the new accounting wing and obliterate it.
Or witness Building 7 at the World Trade Center, housing the SEC investigation files for huge investigations like Enron. Just have the building catch fire and conveniently make the planned demolition look like structural damage. Those are the more extreme examples.
It’s usually something like focusing the Infotainment apparatus on the little girl who fell into the well the day the news is announced of U.S. debt default or the AAA financial rating gets downgraded. Starting wars, or should we say, “humanitarian actions” overseas is always a good way to create a distraction. What was the non-term Obama called the Libya invasion? Laughable.
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No offence to Obama, but i meant the people who own his larynx.
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Spec, I don’t think sock puppets take offense. After all, they operate with a hand rammed up their …! Darn them.
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Or-well..I know compassion and am sure Obama is in great pain.
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Conscience, if one has it, is the most painful thing in the world.
Delayed or otherwise.
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I wondered last night when I awoke in the middle of the night how he must feel knowing his family is being relentlessly irradiated. Two young daughters. He has to be aware of the seriousness of the Fukushima situation. But he is beholden to the nuke interest campaign donors.
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How about Hillary? ..she knows without a doubt what radiation does to people, as she had a lot of input from the Veterans that have been sickened by depleted uranium weapons, and yet, she flew to Japan, and even signed agreements and gave assurances, and presto, the only nation in the world to increase imports from radioactive Japan is the good ole US of A… aka unsuspecting sheeple of America.
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OT
Stout true Dem all my life, this election I’m thinking of voting for Paul. I mean REALLY, what the hell do we have to lose. I’ve lost all faith in O and the country couldn’t get much more fucked up. Why not take a chance? It’s like; I HAVE NOTHING BUT contempt for Obama. Why not GIVE PEACE A CHANCE. Would Ron Paul make all the way is my question. (assassination)
SoapBox collapse.
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P.S. I do not BLAME Obama for the economic mess BUT I do blame him on extending and further destroying our civil rights. (Being able to lock anyone of us up ect) What a tool he’s turned out to be. I WONT BE FOOLED AGAIN.
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Someone gets elected, and the machine grinds on.
Individually, people are ants in the anthill or bees in the hive. In theory, all the insects could just opt out one day, leaving the queen helpless and unattended – but they never do in the insect kingdom.
People are increasingly frustrated all over the world. Change is in the air. There is no consensus about the causes of the problems or their solutions though. Such consensus could come overnight or could never come. If it comes, sudden change could come with it. Such change may or may not improve things.
History tends to lurch along like that, I think. I’ve posted this link elsewhere, but it may (or may not) cheer you up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_empires
Scroll down to the huge list, and reflect on all the changes that went on. You might smile (I do) or be afraid (I am)… or both.
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Hi aigeezer!
The machine is people, top to bottom, President to campaign doorknocker. Voters and $contributors too.
(Voters like fuel, contributors like a squirt of lubricant to a full grease job.)
All consciously participating.
All not privy to the same levels of access and info.
All not fully aware of the motivational impulses stimulating them.
History does lurch, the organised extension of power and influence crumbles, re-forms, under the pressure of war, resource constraints, disease, climate, multiple external and internal influences.
What culture, nation or empire willingly fails? But they do.
My point, in this confining form, is that we must see ourselves as the machine and act to remove malfunctioning people-parts that, consciously or not, are acting contrary to our collective survival, contrary to the co-operativr civil existence necessary if we are to successfully confront all the challenges we face.
We – the “masses” – tend to neglect scheduled maintenance and repair until it’s too late.
We’re not operating the “machine”. We need to see who is, and revoke their operating licenses!
We need to see
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“All consciously participating.” I’d say some consciously and others not consciously.
The machine is us (all of us) collectively, even when there is a “them” that participates/directs/controls consciously.
The net effect of all of us doing whatever we each do is… the situation we’ve got.
That reminds me… it’s time to close the bedroom door so I don’t waste energy heating an empty room. At least “they” can’t use my wattage as part of their excuse. Feels good – as far as it goes.
“…the organised extension of power and influence crumbles, re-forms…”
I agree, and the “re-form” – the next instantiation of the powerful – often turns out to be as bad or worse. Round and round it goes. Meanwhile…
SHUT THEM DOWN as Or-well often reminds us. Got to deal with the crisis at hand first.
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aig, “the crisis at hand first” is, I guess, central to my position. IMO shutting down the nukes means shutting down those who would keep them. I suspect there may be no other way. Maybe some combo of economic crisis + growing awareness + political activism + alt energy + conservation et al will supercede the need for revolution, which is, as you and history point out, an uncertain affair. As Ho Taters says, “we are under attack from so many fronts” and “the world system is staggering”. We each must do what we can. It seems clear we must do more, as the stakes couldn’t be higher. Learning and growing here is doing something too, as is maintaining this open dialogue for all to see. I hope all take encouragement from that. I do.
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Geezer, IMHO one of the “big problems” these days is we are under attack on so many fronts that it can be hard to choose one’s battles. Are there sufficient numbers of concerned people who care about one particular issue enough to make a difference?
Even though I’m put off by the political ideology of some of the Occupy people, I have to admire their guts and willingness to make a stand.
It’s easy to get spread very thin by doing letter writing, phone calls, and activism on more than one issue. It can become exhausting and depressing even thinking about the issues, since our whole world system is staggering under the load of so many crises — environmental, political, monetary/financial, food and water safety, loss of civil rights and political freedom, etc., etc.
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“choose one’s battles” Absolutely, HoTaters, and the situation is unstable on many fronts these days.
It’s possible that winning one battle might resolve many issues at once, but everyone has different opinions on which battles are the most important. People who post and read here at Enenews probably give energy battles a high priority. People at American Idol fanboy sites may not. Somehow we’re all in this soup together though (planet Earth, that is).
My own way of handling the over-extension problem is usually: stop fretting the big stuff for a moment, and get up right now and do something, no matter how small, to make a difference. Of course, after a while I start fretting again, but the remedy can be repeated.
There’s a corny story that I find helpful – perhaps you’ve seen it:
A little girl was walking on an ocean beach with her dad (pre Fukushima) and they came upon hundreds of jellyfish left to dry by a receding tide. The little girl rushed out and put one back in the water. Her father remonstrated, pointing out they were doomed, that there were too many of them to make a difference. The little girl said “I made a difference to that one.”
Let’s SHUT THEM DOWN (some things are worth shouting).
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Whoopie, the whole right vs. left paradigm is a tool of political distraction. If we are focused on being AGAINST the people in another political party, it keeps us from understanding what the people behind the sock puppets are really doing.
Having to open my politically closed mind after 2001 and listening to what people said REALLY happened that year, and why, was a revelation. It stood me & my spouse on our political heads. We have never been the same. We basically have no poliitical affiliation now; only voting for those who seem to represent the best choice. It was like someone stripped off the blinders. We were pretty ashamed of ourselves for being so naive. Brainwashed tools of “conservative” media.
What does this have to do with Fuku? Well, people everywhere really need to question those in authority, especially politicians affiliated with corporations and “junk scientists.” If we don’t start doing that, we may not have much of a future. That we didn’t do it to the extent needed before is what got us in this mess. And so it has gone, historically.
The world corpocracy has run amock. Someone recently called the world system a “kleptocracy” and it seems to be true.
11 years ago, had someone told me we had rule by corpocracy or kleptocracy, I’d have said they were short a few buns in their basket.
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Whoopie, I stumbled on this quotation today: “Every politician, every member of the clerical profession, ought to incur the reasonable suspicion of being an interested supporter of false doctrines, who becomes angry at opposition, and endeavors to cast an odium on free inquiry. Fraud and falsehood only dread examination. Truth invites it.” — Thomas Cooper – (1759-1839)
I had never heard of Thomas Cooper. Interesting blurb on him here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cooper_%28US_politician%29
My point is that the stuff bugging you has been around a long time, if that’s any consolation, and you are not alone in “getting it” and fighting the good fight. If you read the blurb on Cooper, you’ll notice the Establishment types used the same tricks they use today: fear, uncertainty, doubt, demonization, lies, half-truths… you know the deal.
Your energy always impresses me. Go get ‘em.
Whoopie +10E100E100 (raising the ante)
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Oops! I did at ‘drive by’ with MY comment above, then went offline. So thank every single one who posted their views!! Love all these comments cuz they’re open and honest and REAL. You guys ROCK!!
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I agree Whoopie. This _was_ one of the better threads that I’ve seen on enenews. Accept my humble appreciation, for what I can only view as relevant to the innumerable issues that we are all facing…now.
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T’was just thinking the same thoughts Whoopie. Thanks for posting yours. I’m having a really hard time justifying a vote for maintaining the status quo i.e dog and pony show.
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Spec, if you are correct, then there is hope he may act differently because of that pain.
I do not share your certainty, except in the sense that all of us ego-beings suffer, which is what I think I read in your statement. Please correct me if I am wrong about that.
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@Orwell.
“Conscience” ..Long pause..hmm…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV8ZAUIQcjY
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Great!!!!
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That’s fabulous Spectro. I’ve been in lots of those meetings – might be in one now.
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What building? Nice hat by the way….lol
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Hehe. Good one, Kevin. I can’t reveal building sites on the Webz though. Hey, since this is an undisclosed location, I can say whatever I want, um, lissenup: “Deficits don’t matter”, “the fundamentals of the economy are essentially sound”, “nookular renussunce”, “the economy is showing signs of green shoots”. Hey, this is fun.
“The emperor has no hat!” That wasn’t so hard, but I’m starting small, trial balloon – don’t want to be the nail that sticks out, and all that.
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LOL!
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It is naive to pretend that leaders these days **own** their own decisions.
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Dear Spector: so very true, unless the “leader” is also a billionaire or close to it sitting on many corporate boards and corporatist associations or NGOs. Those other decision makers are the increasingly powerful billionaires or non who head, in the U.S. anyway, covert agencies, that include the U.S. military, CIA, NSA, State Department, Dept. of Energy, or a total of about 18 covert orgs in the U.S. But generally, as ever, the leadership is whomever, as in a class, is wealthiest. The U.S. has never had a particularly representative government in any way with it’s pseudo plurality of parties where each functional party is actually just a different face for corporatism and this is true back to about 1870 at the very least by my own analyses.
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well said.
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S’okay, they tell us. It’s all in “cold shutdown” now, so there’s no need for anyone to be there doing anything. Until it magically becomes less radioactive, at which point they can come back and clean it all up.
Deal is, there’s simply not much anybody can do. They don’t wish to tell the world that this technology cannot be controlled once it’s gone out of control, so they just declare that it’s all over and that’s that. Now watch as they tell everybody it’s fine to move back to their homes in the shadow of Daiichi, and the health effects will not be documented. Everything’s just fine, no problems.
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Hahaha! I love Monty Python. Speaking of “Very Very Big Corporation”s wanting to own everything–as in all life, please investigate, and this is not conspiracy (in the dismissible sense anyway on nihilistic dissemblage) but verifiable fact…please check out the relationship between Monsanto Board and CFO, COO’s, other executive staff that sit on the non-profit Nature Conservancy’s board. The innocent, docile, at the surface oh so noble Nature Conservancy, owns trillions of dollars of real estate assets worldwide that include some of the rarest gems of biodiversity on the planet. The association between the entities, one, for execrable immoral profiteering on poisoning the planet in oh so many ways, and the other, a non-profit, supposedly engaged in preserving biodiversity, what really could be the point of such an association?
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Before I even look.. it sure seems like that came right out of the play book.. that the WHO and IAEA use.. hmmm do they teach this shit at some Ivy league school.. that only the wealthy go to?
Is this what you get to be part of from the Skull and Bones group?
Just saying, although suspicious..it is familiar.
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Cata, I don’t see the need for a play book in this kind of thing.
I think the process is just people doing what people do. We hang with our friends most of the time. Our friends tend to be people we went to school with and/or people we have worked with and/or people we share interests with and/or people we share recreational activities with….
The outcome in one case is that Joe goes for a beer with Bob after work and then they go out bowling, during which they exchange plans to install a new heater in Joe’s house which, because of a few cut corners, almost burns the house down.
The outcome in another case is that Joe goes for a martini with Bob after the board meeting and then they go for a round of golf during which they exchange plans for a billion dollar deal that, because of a few cut corners, destroys half the planet.
We are they. Them is us. People do what people do. Now what?
Let’s shut down the nukes.
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I see your point, it is valid.
I suppose the biggest problem with us/they is the inability to put others needs before their/our own. Much like what happened in the mortgage mess.. had the loan officers been able to advise people based on what was good for them, as opposed to what would put money in the pocket of the loan officer, then we would not have had the problem we had. I use this as an example, as someone who has been able to put the good of others before my own, in that very arena.
I recognized long ago, back when I discovered we were the USA of Exxon,in the 80s, that we are them.. that “they” had made us “them” with our reliance on fuel to do anything.. hard to piss and moan when you are driving to a fro..eh? ..similar to what they are attempting to do with this nuke crap.. you light your house..can’t complain..
I am with you! Shut the plants down.. even if we started today in earnest, probably could not be completed in my lifetime (..and I mean the lifetime I would have had, had I not been hiking and camping, in the Cascades, with my children, best friend and her children, at just the wrong times..)
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Clean genes for gene-splicing machines?
A place to grow uncontaminated food?
Too bad about that atmosphere covering the planet!
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I forgot to add “greenwashing” their image.
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I don’t doubt you P89j but can you give us a link or citation?
I had a site showing such interlocking relationships but I’ve misplaced it. It might be useful to follow whatever other trails branch off from the one you found.
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Aigeezer…interactive links to ties between individuals and corps.gov
http://news.muckety.com/
http://dirtyenergymoney.com/about.php
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If this shifting brings new expertise to Fukushima and makes a positive change then this shifting can be thought to be a blessing or else it is just going to be worthless attempt to lose many experienced hands.
I recently came across these atmpospheric simulations, produced an American independent organization, that indicate TEPCO vastly under-reported radionuclide emissions from the Fukushima Plant.
http://www.datapoke.org/blog/8/study-modeling-fukushima-npp-radioactive-contamination-dispersion-utilizing-chino-m-et-al-source-terms/
http://www.datapoke.org/partmom/a=40
I’ve suspected for some time that the publicly released emissions data had been manipulated – If the models are correct I suppose this re enforces my hunch. Is there anyone here that can help us explain the implications of this model?
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