S. California fishermen ‘skunked… haven’t seen a squid’, usually 10,000+ lbs/day — ‘Complete crashes’ at oyster hatcheries — Sardines, mackerel missing in areas — Pelican sites alarmingly deserted — Record # of sick sea lions — Ultra-rare whales appear after decades — Mammals, birds, fish in odd places

Published: June 17th, 2014 at 3:23 am ET


KPBS, June 11, 2014: Unusual Fish Catches Off San Diego Signal Large-Scale El Niño […] “We’ve already started to see very unusual fish catches here,” [Tim Barnett, Scripps Institution of Oceanography said.] “Yellowfin tuna was caught in May — that has never happened before to anybody’s recollection [and] dorado Mahi Mahi — first of June […] has never happened” […]

Pete Thomas Outdoors, June 13, 2014: Unusual catches, whales in odd places, pelican woes could be signs that impending El Niño will be significant […] mammals, birds and fish showing up where they don’t typically belong […] Earlier this week two Bryde’s whales [were] off Huntington Beach […] Sightings off California, however, are extremely rare. […] between 1991 and 2005, there was only one […] Less than a week earlier, a large pod of pilot whales showed off Dana Point […] nearly 20 years since they were last spotted off Southern California. In late March, false killer whales, another ultra-rare visitor [were] off Orange County. […] Sam Anderson, a UC Davis biologist […] would typically encounter tens of thousands of breeding pairs of pelicans, there were only sparse numbers. Some nesting sites were alarmingly deserted. […] Anderson, however, was reluctant to place all of the blame for the pelicans’ plight on the developing El Niño.

Wall St. Journal, June 7, 2014: Record numbers of distressed sea lions have washed ashore in California for a second straight year […] a record 367 California sea lions have been admitted to the Marine Mammal Center here just north of San Francisco, nearly five times the average. […] The problem may have implications for humans, researchers say. “Sea lions are living and feeding on the same resource as humans are.” […] Evidence suggests a problem with one of the animal’s major food sources, sardines […] Some researchers suggest rising toxicity […]

Mark Rayor (Baja California’s East Cape region), April 13, 2014: The bait situation is still very grim […] with sardines and mackerel nowhere to be found.

Marin Independent Journal, June 16, 2014:”We are seeing an issue of availability of (oyster) seed […] There have been complete crashes at these hatcheries.”

Long Beach Press-Telegram, June 13, 2014: The squid boats that net the market squid commercially get an average of six tons nightly […] This year the boats are getting “skunked” and haven’t seen a squid for the last three nights.

See also: [intlink id=”more-weird-things-along-california-coast-previously-unknown-toxic-algae-blooms-suddenly-proliferating-mysterious-stranding-of-large-squid-covering-12-miles-and-researchers-dont-know-why” type=”post”] “Weird things” seen on California coast: Previously unknown toxic algae proliferating; Unprecedented mass of oxygen-poor water nearshore — TV: Mystery strandings of large squid covered miles and experts baffled… “killing themselves, it’s just really weird” (VIDEO)[/intlink]

Published: June 17th, 2014 at 3:23 am ET


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138 comments to S. California fishermen ‘skunked… haven’t seen a squid’, usually 10,000+ lbs/day — ‘Complete crashes’ at oyster hatcheries — Sardines, mackerel missing in areas — Pelican sites alarmingly deserted — Record # of sick sea lions — Ultra-rare whales appear after decades — Mammals, birds, fish in odd places

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Oh my ! Reality is setting in

        • We Not They Finally

          Oh wait, wait, wait, we're finally seeing the long-sought-after apology:

          "O.k., we now see that our estimates of damage to the ecology were off by a exponential factor of 1,000. Oh, off by 17 million, you say? Anyway, we hope that the marine life that we have so inconvenienced by our malfunctioning calculator will forgive us. Oh, there is nothing left to forgive? Oh, I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood. You said that there is no marine life LEFT to forgive us? Well, that solves it, doesn't it? Apology must have been accepted."

          Conscience-dead meets brain-dead — finally! [sarc]

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          I went to a garage sale the other day. The most interesting thing I found was a tree.

          When I was a child, there were several red bud trees. I saw them every day nearly. They have heart-shaped leaves that are smooth on the edges, and are pretty much straight.

          This one was different. It's leaves were curled on the edges, very regular wave pattern all around, and the leaves were cupped. A very different look for that tree. Also, the number and amount of seed pods was incredible. they hung from the limbs by the hundreds per each foot of limb. I would have thought the tree was suffering from some plant disease, but the seed pods tell me something different happening in this case. I took a picture of the leaf when I got home. Asking for a leaf off this tree, of course, was the perfect intro to stating the facts of Fukushima, and the lack of news about it.
          Whole conversation lasted about 30 seconds… me being the bearer of bad news, and she being the shocked looks provider. "I didn't know that…"

          • unincredulous unincredulous

            …of course, I didn't say the radiation was making her tree like that, but that Fukushima had me watching for such things.

            Oh, meant to say there were redbud trees at my parent's house.

      • irhologram

        Dr. G. We had been discussing oxygen levels (which they no longer tell us)…but from your link…" Oxygen levels are dropping globally, and have been reduced by close to 20% from normal levels."

        Ergo: If normal level was 22%. 20% of 22% means I subtract 4.4% = 17.6% current level.

        From this resource the level is (or is it was?) allegedly 20% http://www.learner.org/courses/envsci/unit/text.php?unit=1&secNum=6 So we have a short or shorter way to go for human survivability, depending on which figure you guess at. We guess. THEY KNOW.

        Don't you think it odd that they removed monitors we used to refer to routinely from specific areas, like your very own city so we could know (or that they are withholding the info they have, more likely.)?

        And don't you find this odd? H2S was originally included in the list of Toxic Air Pollutants defined by Congress in the 1990 amendments to the Clean Air Act. It was later determined that H2S was included through a clerical error and it was removed by Congress from the list.

        Enquiring minds want to know, but Congress does not.

        • Angela_R

          Yes irhologram, hydrogen sulfide and don't forget nitrous oxide, (laughing gas) or is that mentioned?

          Actually both of them are in shale gas.
          Re Nitrous oxide "It is a major greenhouse gas and air pollutant. Considered over a 100 year period, it has 298 times more impact per unit mass (global warming potential) than carbon dioxide." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide

          I forgot, they are telling everybody to laugh and be happy. Why isn't it working? Probably clashes with the fluoride..

          But they did say carbon dioxide,
          now, if they had mentioned carbon monoxide…

          • irhologram

            He he he, Angela. Now that right there? Is a trip. Laughing gas is a trip when you have more than the dentist gives you! I remember back in the day, I was married to an attorney, and so had connections when an abortion clinic was shut down. We all went in one night, sat in the reclining chair, and gassed out. Fun memories.

            Wouldn't if be wonderful if the Universe has at least that kindness in store for us as we struggle for oxygen?\\

            I enjoyed your post. TY

            • Angela_R

              "Wouldn't it be wonderful if the Universe has at least that kindness in store for us as we struggle for oxygen?"

              Only had it once, in childbirth, and I kept throwing the mask off. Discomfort from NO oxygen, would only last for three to five minutes. But pain…
              When I simmer down, I even pray that my enemies are spared – that.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            AngelaR, don't know if you saw my post last night. Would you please write to me off-list? I'd like to discuss some of your personal research, as mine overlaps and we have similar interests and background.

            Always appreciate your thoughtful posts.


            • HoTaters HoTaters

              I'm truly beginning to wonder how geoengineering figures into all of this. Big, big questions in my mind about this.


                geoengineering's a globalwide phenomena, HoTaters. While I wouldn't dismiss it as being a part of the madness, the most widespread of these die-offs are being seen in the Pacific region. I'm leaning towards Fukushima as being the proverbial last straw…

                • Runningonlove Runningonlove

                  There seems to be little investigation going on concerning the interaction of the metallic nano-particles used in geoengineering (aluminum, barium, strontium, titanium, etc) WITH all the radioactive particles wafted into the stratosphere by Fuku ever since 311. They are undoubtedly synergizing in some God-awful manner, but I haven't seen any real analysis…have you? I HAVE noticed this trend lately: the geoengineering-generated white/grey sky canopy seems more amorphous, homogenous and lenselike than previously. They seem to have improved the dispersion uniformity, if the word "improved" can be used on a mega-toxic global mess right over our heads…sorry, I'm suffering an surge overload of irony now…later…

            • Angela_R

              Hi HoTaters,
              Have a big problem with sending and receiving emails. This has been ongoing for three years, various checks have been made to my two computers and innumerable calls made to my internet providers. My internal lines have been rewired, equipment examined, yet it still continues. In front of my eyes, my email box was accessed and an attempt made to send out an email. So I now only do short messages, i.e. of one to two lines, on my iphone.

              Re geoengineering, I believe, and I have said online, that in part it was being used as a counter measure against damage in the atmosphere. Not impressed, but my assumption was that it was a desperate measure. Its other applications, that I have seen mentioned here, i.e. as a war machine, etc. are to me, horrifying.
              However, I am mindful, though not approving, of the philosophy, 'others are doing it, so we need to do it too.'
              Similar philosophy, 'got to get in first' led to the explosion of the first atomic bomb.

              Mind you, back then, most people had consciences, thus, I believe, we saw a repentant Oppenheimer. Einstein's issued a strong warning for the future. He also remarked that even scientists did not fully understand the process.

        • scottyji scottyji

          National Science Foundation report = Oceans Acidifying Faster Today Than in Past 300 Million Years =

        • We Not They Finally

          irhologram, hard to get in after the end of all these interlinking posts, but:

          People need to understand that aside from (though hard to get "aside from" out of my mouth) the expected escalation of all types of disease from direct radiation exposure (not just cancer,) the death of the world's PLANKTON with its reduction in OXYGEN levels worldwide, is a looming catastrophe all its own.

          Escalation in respiratory diseases might be the leading edge of what we will see, but the additional "unintended consequences" might be humongous. Anyone who has researched this, input would be most welcome.

          • chevvvy chev

            Effect Thresholds for Exposure to Reduced Oxygen

            (Healthy Individuals at Sea Level)

            Volume % Oxygen



            Night vision reduced

            Increased breathing volume

            Accelerated heartbeat



            Reaction time for novel tasks doubled


            Impaired attention

            Impaired judgment

            Impaired coordination

            Intermittent breathing

            Rapid fatigue

            Loss of muscle control


            Very faulty judgment

            Very poor muscular coordination

            Loss of consciousness

            Permanent brain damage


            Inability to move




            Spasmatic breathing

            Convulsive movements

            Death in 5-8 minutes

            • humptydumpty humptydumpty

              Vertigo is one diagnosis that encompasses several of those symptoms. I suffered from a severe bout of Vertigo a few months ago — first time in my half-century-plus lifetime. West Coast of CA. Went to hospital, diagnosed with Vertigo, underwent MRI brain scan but no abnormality found, given Rx Meclizine. Now I'm pretty sure what caused it.

              • humptydumpty humptydumpty

                Correction — I barely made it to the hospital with help from a friend who helped me get to his car and who drove me there. I was really messed up!

          • I never thought of that one, plankton could be decimated first. Reduced oxygen will be a further stressor on the animals, even those lying filthy pro nuke beasts.

      • RonM RonM

        The Earth has seen several major extinction events and it looks like we are all experiencing another one, no fear the planet will heal itself in a few million years and whatever radiation is left will then help the new species of the future to evolve and after another several million years (intelligent) if that's what you would call the human species that destroys and poisons it's own habitat and wages warfare that kills hundreds of millions of it's own species while polluting the planet even more, that dumps toxic chemicals in the water and even puts it in our own food, anyhow humans are very far from being an intelligent life form because all of the degradation and corruption has taken a truly wondrous gift that our species should have cared for and shepherded. Instead of distributing the riches, sharing the labor and enjoying the the leisure and comfort that all of the energy that the planet has provided has given to the human race, instead the greedy and evil power mongers and warmongers and slave drivers have just about destroyed it all.

        So I smile 🙂 and hope for some miracle that brings about a change in our civilization that begins to rectify and re-mediate and re-prioritize the actions and behaviors of the PTB while having a peaceful satisfaction knowing that it won't happen and the powerful and greedy will never let go of the death grip that is squeezing our planet to death, and that maybe I will be a living witness to the end of the human race.


        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Hear! Hear! 🙂

        • We Not They Finally

          What you say is true, but try not to sink into despair. There are other planes of existence — both "inner" and "higher." Some believe, some simply know, for others it is a blank. But it's not escapism. It's like knowing that they are, that there have to be higher forms of life than the mess so-called humans have made here. We're sort of like a reformatory, this planet, far as I can tell…..

    • We Not They Finally

      "Reality will set in" when real estate values start to crash. But that cannot be far off.

      Part of the reason we were so happy to be able to exodus from New Mexico (though honestly, there were a bunch of reasons!,) is that when southern Cal starts to migrate away form the shore, they might be pouring into Arizona and New Mexico. We're sorry for the people we left behind, but we don't want to be there when it happens.

  • I still remember how severely Europe was struck when Chernobyl's massive "El Niño" spread it's fertilizing elements across several thousands of square kilometers in 1986. Something tells me the current one will break all records, whatsoever.

    Feliz Navidad !

  • And I think it's gonna be more like a Ninja than like a niño.

  • Fuk Nuclear

    Hello all, I've been quietly sitting in the background on this site since 2011. An i've read all the articles, an comments. All have been amazing, an helpful. It amazes me how many people don't even know what fukushima is or TEPCO, but thanks to CNN they know what BP did with their lovely oil spill. It's sad how many label me as a conspiracy theorist, when all I do is try to share the truth. I'm quick to reply to them with "what conspiracy do you think I'm trying to spread?" their replys are all the same… "fear" well as alot of you know on here, the truth can be scary… Well I'm done sitting quietly, an like all of you, I want to share my thoughts an opinions of what I come across on my daily research. it will be an honor to be welcome to the nuclear family.

  • Ontological Ontological

    Those involved with this global biosphere destruction will get theirs one way or another.

  • Kashiko Kashiko

    El Niño, El Niño, El Niño, El Niño, yeh, right.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Maybe the Mayan prophecy of the world's end may not have been wrong after all. The beginning of the end…Fukushima

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      After 2011, maybe the days aren't worth counting.

      I read about how some say it's a spiritual rebirth or something. Something great happens to our spirit and we awaken. However, I feel like I never should have set the alarm. Sweet sweet slumber. The blue pill. My decision to not eat seafood may not be voluntary for long…

      "hat, me worry?" — Alfred E. Newman

    • We Not They Finally

      Just a few days before 3/11/11, my husband was at the kitchen table and kept repeating, "Something terrible is about to happen. It's the beginning of the end."

      We still know that to be true, with great sorrow. But something is messed up with astronomy now too. Starting in 2011, the Sun arose two days early in Greenland (for example). I'm an astrologer and we were clearly "scheduled" to exodus New Mexico, both of us, dead-ringer, in December, 2012, but instead it happened now, a year and a half later on. The only astronomical explanation (which fits in with the Greenland experience, too,) is that the Earth no longer tilts at 23 degrees, but something less tilted — like maybe 22-1/2? [very hard to know exactly].

      This has to be very dangerous news, even if one does not see astronomy as key in the affairs of men. I honestly don't know if it is a pre-cursor to pole shift,ut it's unsettling, bad.

      It's possible (I guess) that the Mayans got a lot of things right if only the planet was not being astronomically disrupted.

  • rogerthat

    El Nuko, El Nuko, El Nuko, El Nuko, yeh, righter.

  • rogerthat

    (June 2013, Washington State) Oyster hatcheries are dropping the equivalent of Tums and other antacids into water to make it easier for naked mollusk larvae to build their shells… [O]cean waters [are] turning ever more corrosive as they absorb a fraction of the carbon dioxide humans are pumping into the atmosphere. The acidification, in turn, makes it harder for oyster larvae to build their shells.

    (April 2012) Marine researchers have definitively linked the collapse of oyster seed production at a commercial oyster hatchery in Oregon to an increase in ocean acidification.

  • rogerthat

    (July 2010)
    Oceans in Peril: Primed for Mass Extinction?

    "Today the synergistic effects of human impacts are laying the groundwork for a comparably great Anthropocene mass extinction in the oceans, with unknown ecological and evolutionary consequences," Jeremy Jackson of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography at the University of California, San Diego, wrote in a 2008 article published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

    Frightening parallel

    When it comes to the oceans, research shows a parallel to the Permian-Triassic extinction — also known as the Great Dying — which eradicated 95 percent of marine species when the oceans lost their oxygen about 250 million years ago.

    • Angela_R

      Interesting Roger, that Jeremy Jackson of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography at the University of California, San Diego warned in 2008, of a future mass extinction in the oceans, three years BEFORE the earthquake, tsunami and nuclear horror of Fukushima.

      From your link:
      "The waters of the Gulf were already heavily fished, and the Gulf has become home to an oxygen depleted dead zone generated by agricultural runoff rich in nutrients.
      The Gulf and the rest of the world's waters also face the uncertain and potentially devastating effects of climate change. Warming ocean temperatures reduce the water's oxygen content…."

      Yet there is a failure to mention the ocean dumping of nuclear waste.

      However there is a loud message on OXYGEN DEPLETION.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        It's all (the rampant pollution in all forms) accumulative.. 🙁

      • irhologram

        Not to mention the omitted elephant in the room…corexit and (many believe continuing) catastrophic oil "volcano" from the BP accident (some believe was not an accident). When I state other's beliefs, bear in mind I am just relaying them.

  • rogerthat


    19 hours ago – Uploaded by New Mexico Environment Department
    This video shows the real time radiography that was conducted on the specific container that breached in ..

    -interesting video for wipp watchers

  • rogerthat


    – this has some interesting stuff on lawrence livermore

  • rogerthat

    Pediatrician “Increasing nosebleed in nursery schools reported in academic meeting. Some Doctors ”eye signaled””
    Posted by Mochizuki on June 17th, 2014 · No Comments
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    A Japanese citizen commented on Twitter that the increasing nosebleed among nursery schools in Tokyo was reported in academic meeting. Also, some of the member doctors have already evacuated themselves to be absent from the meeting.


    9:34 6/17/2014

    “A pediatrician that I always consult said that it was reported in the recent academic meeting that nursery school children have nosebleed unusually increasingly in Tokyo.

    Some doctors made eye signals at each other to stay silent. Some other doctors spat out “Recent children are weak.”. The rest of the doctors didn’t attend the meeting, which means, they have already left here.”

  • rogerthat


    – some good fuku-related stuff you won't see elsewhere

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    Suggest, suggest….oh you want us to test? We will get back to you on that……

  • jackassrig

    They're "skunked" and I'm "buffaloed". FlumMoxed too.

  • tsfw tsfw

    Just give us the freaking lab reports, we know you have them.

    Samples for the conjoined whale would be peachy too.

    I'm so tired of watching this dance.

  • Lorem Ipsum


    I'm with you concerning the Mayan prophecy; wondering if it was an awakened state that may not be possible now, with everything crashing into the news for its one day headline. Even the most shocking articles are just tidbits, these days.

    Also reminds me of an end time prophecy from another book- how in the last days those who know, have their knowledge added to- and those who didn't bother, have even the little they once had taken away.

    Either way, it is abstruse, is it not?

  • ftlt

    I'm not joining the crowd on this until there is definitive proof of FUFU here.

    There is so much else wrong with the oceans right now.

    We unleashed so much other toxic crap into the oceans, run away ocean warning, eutrophication by itself, SO2 blooms, dead zones and CO2 acidification all of these and more combined with nuclear pollution are massive problems.

    We have created a toxic soup for organisms that dwell in the oceans.

    Clearly, this is NOT just a nuclear problem.

  • weeman

    If you go down to the ocean today
    You're sure of a big surprise
    If you go down to the ocean today
    You'd better go in a tyvac suit.

    For every fish that ever there was
    Will gather there for certain, because
    Today's the day the Fish are dying off radiation

    Every Human who's been bad
    Is sure of a treat today.
    There's lots of marvelous things to eat
    And wonderful games to play.

    Beneath the water where nobody sees
    They'll hide and seek as long as they can
    'Cause that's the way the Fishies will have there last say

    If you go down to the ocean today
    You'd better not go alone
    It's lovely down in the ocean today
    But safer to stay at home.

    For every fish that ever there was
    Will gather there for certain, because
    Today's the day the Fishies have their final picnic.

    Picnic time for the fish
    The little Fish are having a lovely time today
    Watch them, catch them unawares
    And see them picnic on their way.

    See them gaily gad about
    They love to play and shout;
    They never have any care;

    At six o'clock their Mummies and Daddies,
    Will take them home to bed,
    Because they're tired little fish

  • Nick

    ftlt…. don't forget glyphosphate….shown to be toxic at parts per trillion.

    The radiation from FD-NPP doesn't help matters ofcourse.

    The approaching El Nino is due, in part to the increased solar activity (go outside and find a patch of sunlight…..if no clouds…IT IS FIERCE!)

    Anyone on the West Coast have goosebumps when visiting the shore these days?

    I wish our instinctual knowledge were appreciated more. I just do not trust our modern mindset one bit.

    Marine scientists the world over should be converging where die -offs occur. Otherwise, why the hell are you "doing" the science of marine ecology, or whatever.

    Figure it out.

    • ftlt

      Nick: If our oceans are dying, can we be far behind? I would think not.

    • ftlt

      Nick "glyphosphate" is just another of the wonderful array of organophosphates that is covered by the term our general global industrial toilet bowl pollution we have been producing on mass for must of the last century.

      I use to drink coffee with a world renown biochemist and sometimes, I could get him to open up to me (he understanding, I was a lay idiot when he was discussing his science with me).

      His warnings were severe regarding our chemical past and future! He always was concerned about global pandemic surrounding the proliferation and pollution caused by our use of them on scale for profit. He was not a hopeful person to talk to.

      He was clear also, they just don't away. They keep on giving.

      He was not a fan of nuclear either.

  • Nick


    What if some of what we are seeing is due to melting methane clathrates?

    Anyone testing for CH4 levels?

    Methane is toxic.

  • ftlt

    Nick: Rot begets more rot. Rot is change. One thing about change is, you are not always included in it.

  • Fukushimad is Revelation

    In Revelation the 6th seal great Earthquake followed by the 1st trumpet the Greek word for Hail χάλαζα could have been translated as lump or tubercle as in nodule/lump/tumor/cancer/lung cancer mixed with fire and blood inside of creatures. Fukushimad fallout in the atmosphere is burning everything on an atomic level including the trees and the grass http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%87%CE%AC%CE%BB%CE%B1%CE%B6%CE%B1

    Revelation 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

    The 2nd trumpet, word for mountain ὄρος in the Greek could have been translated, as mountainous region while the Greek word for was cast βάλλω could have been translated as to pour, as in the Fukushimad mountainous region is pouring hundreds of thousands of pounds of contaminated water into the Pacific ocean each day. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BD%84%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%82 http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G906&t=KJV

    Revelation 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.

    Revelation 16:3 The second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it turned into blood like that of a dead person, and every living thing in the sea died.

  • just breathe just breathe

    " Be blessed and remember to breath"
    and remember to just BREATHE!!! While we can!!!

  • 4truth

    Tonight, Tuesday, is when many city councils have meetings. Some start meetings in the afternoon, others in the evening.

    There is a public comment portion of the meeting, and typically, 3 minutes of comment by each person is allowed. These meeting are often televised by local public access channels and replayed. Some cities have an overhead projector to show pictures and charts; others have computer hook-ups and will sometimes allow PowerPoint presentations during this time. The City Clerks are usually very helpful with information.

    This is another place to "show up" and educate. This information has to get out to the public.

  • 4truth

    From last year. Cesium in plankton and ocean water.


    Researchers find high cesium in some Pacific plankton
    May 22, 2013

    Scientists said Tuesday they have detected radioactive cesium from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant in plankton collected from all 10 points in the Pacific they checked, with the highest levels at around 25 degrees north latitude and 150 degrees west longitude.

    Researchers from the Japan Agency for Marine Earth Science and Technology were among the team members who released a report on the findings at a meeting of the Japan Geoscience Union at the Makuhari Messe international convention center in Chiba Prefecture.

    Minoru Kitamura, a marine ecologist and senior researcher at the agency, said plankton are thought to play a key role in the dispersion of the cesium because they are eaten by bigger fish.
    Kitamura said his team will continue to study the accumulation of radioactive cesium.

    The researchers collected plankton at 10 points in the Pacific from off Hokkaido to Guam between January and February 2012.

    • 4truth

      the rest of the article "…They detected cesium-134 in plankton at all 10 points. The density of radioactive cesium was the highest at 8.2 to 10.5 becquerels per kilogram in samples collected from waters around 25 degrees north latitude and 150 degrees east longitude. The lowest concentration at any of the 10 points was 1.9 becquerels per kilogram.

      The density of cesium in seawater was highest in waters at around latitude 36 to 40 degrees north, the team said."
      This was reported a year ago. What is it now?

      Looking at a map, 25 degrees N, 150 degrees E, is just east and north of Hawaii.

      And the highest density of cesium — 36-40 degrees N — that latitude on the West Coast of America is from about Ft. Bragg, California, to Big Sur, California, with San Francisco Bay Area in the middle.

      Yes, all the contaminants have horribly harmed the ocean, but Fukushima has way upped the level, fatally so unless we act.

      • Sparky Sparky

        My daughter is camping on the beaches of Big Sur for 3 days with her church youth group. 17-yr.-olds are apparently invincible and strong-willed. She took the pack of potassium iodide and vitamins with her, but refused to take the rad monitor. I agreed not to mention the "R" word to the youth pastor. 🙁

        "And the highest density of cesium — 36-40 degrees N — that latitude on the West Coast of America is from about Ft. Bragg, California, to Big Sur, California, with San Francisco Bay Area in the middle."

        So yeah, I'm a wreck with guilt and anxiety. 🙁 🙁 🙁

        • Au Au

          Words of comfort to you Sparky. We are between a rock and hard spot. Our kid went camping for weeks, sleeping outside in a hammock, between 2 trees, when the count was bouncing around 800cpm Beta. That EPA site has since been taken down. Of course.

          • Sparky Sparky

            Thanks so much, Au. I guess we can rationalize to ourselves that they should enjoy nature's beauty while it still lasts, perhaps so they can tell their children and grandchildren about how it used to be–assuming there's a future for humankind. Of course, I worry that their lives may be cut short or compromised by their present desire to live life to the fullest.

            I appreciate that you and other parents are struggling with these same issues. I'll try not to be so hard on myself. Thank you, Au. 🙂

            • Angela_R

              You both remind me of the saying "love let's go", but how hard it is to let go of anxiety for a child,

              But what a memory you can have, because
              you gave them wings when they wanted to fly.

              • Sparky Sparky

                AngelaR and Au, thank for your very kind and thoughtful words of comfort. I am a NETC member, so will check out that particular thread, Au.

                Remembering to live, let live and let go is tough, especially regarding young adult "children". But the disability and dying seem so random!

                The human population is "crashing".

                Example: An otherwise very healthy colleague in her late 40s/early 50s had sudden, acute double kidney failure due to a rare immunological condition. She had to miss her daughter's wedding and is now on dialysis, awaiting a transplant.

                Example: Another colleague's husband (late 30s/early 40s) was recently diagnosed with stage 4 melanoma AND single kidney failure.

                Example: Two high school students at my daughter's h.s. have cancer.

                Example: My neighbor (early 80's) died last year, less than 6 mos. after being diagnosed with two different cancers in his lungs, which traveled to his lymph nodes.

                Example: My 10-yr. old coon hound dog died last year due to brain and lung cancer.

                I try to beat the odds through mitigation, maybe relocation sometime in the future. But I'm reminded by the phrase from the Hunger Games, "May the odds may be forever in your favor" when the game is fixed–just like with nukes.

                If anything, my children have learned resilience and tenacity, along with some keen life/survival skills. But will it be enough to beat the odds? Time will tell.

                (Sorry if OT, 'Newsers.)

            • Au Au

              Sparky, yeah, try to not be hard on yourself because it's a damn shame and nightmare – this whole radiation situation. If you are a member of netc you can go to nuclear chat, page 3, Trip to Calif and check out some readings. pm

              Angela_R, a saying I kinda like is "we better get busy living or get busy dying." Sometimes I just have to take a big breath and say, "Yeah…get busy living. Now. I forgot." But, always there is this undercurrent…

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Ongoing Collapse of Pacific Ocean Ecosystem:
    All species of living things will suffer weakened immune systems from direct radiation poisoning.
    All species will suffer from radiation poisoning from both external and internal sources, causing genetic mutations.
    Internal radiation is subject to bio-accumulation, as food species pass their radiation doses up the food chain.
    Plants and animals both have a variety of mechanisms that cause them to capture and retain radiation.
    Bio-accumulation is a mechanism whereby small amounts of radiation in food species become highly concentrated in top predators.
    Living things can exhibit radiation concentrations hundreds of times greater than that of the surrounding water and air in their environment.
    (This is the reason why scientists who shill for the nuclear industry always ignore the subject of bio-accumulation. Instead, they attempt to focus public attention on the tiny amount of contamination in the air, water, and soil. They proclaim the contamination of air, water, and soil is negligible, and of no consequence to human health. This statement is a lie.)
    The precipitous decline in sardine populations has the same cause as the sores on seal skins.

    Academia: You better get your ass in gear on this, or lots of data will be lost before it is even measured. 😉

  • Dick Shenary

    The Society of Environmental Toxicology and Chemistry (SETAC) will hold its annual conference in Vancouver Canada – 11/09/14 through 11/13/14. Thousands of environment scientists, biologists, and chemists will gather to consider and discuss the effects of Fukushima on the west coast of the Americas. If you can afford the costs, plan on attending this conference. You can join this society for free as a non-member and then get access to the planning sessions and paper presentations. There is no way that this conference will be muzzled as these people are independent scientists from over 100 countries. Of coarse, the media will turn a blind eye to this event, but as many of us as possible should attend this event. This would be an example of nuclear activism that would not be difficult to pursue, it just takes the money to get there and back. Hopefully, we will be able to disseminate information from credible sources to the people and wake them up.

  • demise demise

    It is so obvious that the Pacific ecosystem is collapsing and the die hard officials will deny it until their death beds.

  • Dick Shenary

    demise – Yes lacky officials will deny almost everything they are told to deny including denial on their own death beds. That still leaves the majority of humans who are not so blind as those who will not see. We need to get through to them and convince them it is time to change the very nature of energy sources and how much we use or waste. Renewable sources of energy should be the only sources of energy or we will destroy not only ourselves but tens of thousands of species as well.

  • FXofTruth

    Wow….the experts are baffled.

    So, they have a problem with "visually" obvious, serious animal situations that HAVE NEVER happened like this EVER and they have no explanation but, they have a bunch of guesses…Wow, some group of "experts"!

    Hey experts, try R-A-D-I-A-T-I-O-N poisoning from Japan!
    What, you don't have the balls to state the most in-your-face example of an obvious destroyer of sea life covering the Pacific for thousands of miles?

    All the "experts" must have bought their certifications at Walmart in the "Pet Department". All you experts are sickening to listen to. Cowboy Up and say it as it is.

  • Dick Shenary

    "Vowing to protect fragile marine life, President Barack Obama acted Tuesday to create the world’s largest ocean preserve by expanding a national monument his predecessor established in waters thousands of miles from the American mainland." (WaPo)
    I am sooo glad that the administration is now going to protect marine life in the ocean, I just wonder exactly how they are going to do this. Perhaps a presidential signing order that all radionuclides must decay to lead within 3 weeks. That ought to clear up the problem.

  • Dick Shenary

    The President has definately drawn a line in the water – this time!

  • Ki11more Ki11more

    Hi Everyone, I'm new here… I been following this stuff for what seems such a long a time now…..it seems. 🙁
    Trying to learn as i go along, so if i get some issue mixed up please bare with me. Even better would be to explain how i got it wrong.

    All the isotopes produced in a reactor come from fissioning atoms together or apart producing a whole spew of 1000+ new radioactive isotopes.

    Each of these isotopes have various half life's from a few millionths of a second right up to billions of years.

    The quicker the half life the more radioactive the isotope is.

    So what im trying to figure is there a flow chart that shows the cascade effect and what is released in the way of protons, electrons, and neutrons from 'Parent' Isotopes to 'Daughter' Isotopes as they lose 'Nuclear Weight' towards stability?

    Does this just mean that as each atom shed its 'Nuclear Weight' it just turns into something else that can be either faster decaying, then as that shed its 'Nuclear Weight' become either inert or even more toxic….sorry if this seems off topic I'm just trying to figure out just how radioactive the Oceans WILL become even if we could even pretend to know what to do…Chemical toxicity is a separate but related issue… so lets don't even get me started in on that aspect..ffs o.O

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      You can start with this list, and Google each one, for example: Iodine 131 daughter products. However since the list doesn't include another 2,000 nuclear isotopes, the results will still be incomplete. Why society allows continued experimentation with such lethal materials is beyond me.

      Listing of Radionuclides Released from Hanford
      “…Table 1
      Radionuclides Released to the Air (1944-1972)
      Radionuclide Physical Half-Life
      in seconds (s), minutes (m),
      hours (h), days (d) or years (y) HEDR Release Estimate
      (in curies)
      (where provided by HEDR)
      iodine-131 8.0 d 739,000
      ruthenium-103 39.3 d 1,200
      ruthenium-106 368.2 d 390
      cobalt-60 5.3 y 1
      zirconium-95 64.0 d 1,200
      iodine-132 2.3 h 3,820
      cerium-144 284.3 d 3,770
      cesium-137 30.0 y 42
      strontium-90 29.1 y 64
      yttrium-91 58.5 d –
      strontium-89 50.5 d 700
      barium-140 12.7 d –
      niobium-95 35.2 d –
      tellurium-129m 33.6 d –
      cerium-141 32.5 d –
      plutonium-239 24,065 y 2
      xenon-133 5.3 d 418,000
      praseodymium-143 13.6 d –
      lanthanum-140 40.3 h –
      cesium-134 2.1 y –
      neodymium-147 11 d –
      plutonium-240 6,540 y –
      iodine-129 15,700,000 y 46
      plutonium-241 14.4 y –
      antimony-125 2.8 y –
      tellurium-132 78.2 h –
      cesium-136 13.1 d –
      promethium-148m 41.3 d –
      plutonium-238 87.7 y –
      promethium-147 2.6 y –
      europium-154 8.8 y –
      xenon-131 11.9 d –
      silver-111 7.5 d –
      tin-125 9.6 d –
      cadmium-115m 44.6…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        cadmium-115m 44.6 d –
        iron-59 44.5 d –
        yttrium-90 64.0 h –
        tellurium-125m 58 d –
        europium-155 5 y –
        niobium-95m 88.6 h –
        neptunium-239 2.4 d –
        promethium-148 5.4 d –
        silver-110m 249.9 d –
        krypton-85 10.7 y 18,500,000
        uranium-238 4,470,000,000 y –
        americium-241 432.3 y –
        molybdenum-99 66.0 h –
        neptunium-237 2,140,000 y –
        rubidium-86 18.7 d –
        antimony-124 60.2 d –
        cobalt-58 70.8 d –
        curium-242 162.8 d –
        manganese-54 312.5 d –
        praseodymium-144 17.3 m –
        xenon-133m 2.2 d –
        tin-126 10,000 y –
        iron-55 2.7 y –
        tin-119m 293 d –
        uranium-235 703,800,000 y –
        technetium-99 213,000 y –
        europium-152 13.3 y –
        samarium-151 90 y –
        rhodium-106 29.9 s –
        uranium-236 23,400,00 y –
        rhodium-103m 56.1 m –
        silver 108m 127 y –
        barium-137m 2.6 m –
        tellurium-129 69.6 m –
        promethium-149 53.1 h –
        technetium-99m 6.0 h –
        thorium-234 24.1 d –
        plutonium-236 2.9 y –
        iodine-133 20.8 h –
        curium-244 18.1 y –
        plutonium-242 376,000 –
        cadmium-115 53.5 h –
        americium-243 7,380 y –
        zinc-65 243.9 d –
        cesium-132 6.5 d –
        uranium-234 244,500 y –
        zirconium-93 1,530,000 y –
        samarium-153 46.7 h –
        cesium-135 2,300,000 y –
        nickel-63 96 y –
        chromium-51 27.7 d –
        tin-117m 13.6 d –
        gadolinium-153 242 d –
        tritium (H-3) 12.4 y 200,0003
        carbon-14 5,730 y 554
        cerium-143 33 h –
        curium-243 28.5 y –
        tin-121m 55 y –
        cadmium-109 464 d –
        antimony-122 2.7 d –
        indium-115m 4.5 h –
        xenon-129m 8.0 d –
        niobium-94 20,300 y -…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        plutonium-237 45.3 d –
        holmium-166m 1,230 y –
        protactinium-231 32,760 y –
        nickel-59 75,000 y –
        xenon-127 36.4 d –
        thorium-231 25.5 h –
        niobium-93m 13.6 y –
        gallium-72 14.1 h –
        arsenic-77 38.8 h –
        thorium-228 1.9 y –
        bromine-82 35.3 h –
        silver-110 24.6 s –
        actinium-227 21.8 y –
        curium-245 8,500 y –
        samarium-147 106,000,000,000 y –
        radon-224 3.7 d –
        tin-121 27.1 h –
        thulium-170 128.6 d –
        thorium-230 77,000 y –
        radon-220 55.6 s –
        beryllium-10 1,600,000 y –
        curium-246 4,730 y –
        lead-212 10.6 d –
        curium-241 32.8 d –
        silver-108 2.4 m –
        thorium-229 7,340 y –
        zirconium-97 16.9 h –
        copper-67 61.9 h –
        krypton-81 210,000 y –
        bismuth-212 60.6 m –
        nickel-66 64.6 h –
        arsenic-76 26.3 h –
        niobium-97 72.1 m –
        thorium-232 14,050,000,000 y –
        radon-222 3.8 d –
        thallium-208 3.1 m –
        niobium-97m 60 s –
        praseodymium-142 19.13 h –
        radon-225 14.8 d –
        indium-115 500,000,000,000,000 y –
        barium-135 m 28.7 h –
        thulium-171 1.9 y –
        iodine-130 12.4 h –
        lead-210 22.3 y –
        radium-226 1,600 y –
        gadolinium-152 108,000,000,000,000 y –
        polonium-210 138.4 d –
        radium-228 5.8 y –
        krypton-79 35 h –
        palladium-109 13.4 h –
        uranium-240 14.1 h –
        bismuth-210 5 d –
        scandium-48 43.7 h –
        curium-248 339,000 y –
        actinium-228 6.1 h –
        berkelium-249 320 d –
        sodium-24 15 h –
        lead-214 26.8 m –
        bismuth-214 19.9 m –
        xenon-135 9.1 h –
        copper-64 12.7 h –
        californium-249 350.6 y –
        calcium-47 4.5 d –
        strontium-91 9…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        strontium-91 9.5 h –
        yttrium-91m 49.7 m –
        magnesium-28 20.9 h –
        aluminum-28 2.2 m –
        europium-152m 9.3 h –
        argon-41 1.83 h 9,000,0005

        Radionuclides Estimated To Have Been Released to Columbia River6

        Table 2 lists 71 radionuclides released to the Columbia River from the operation of Hanford’s plutonium production reactors, from 1944 through 1971. The order of this list is the same as in the Battelle-PNL reference document. It lists the radionuclides by their mass number. The mass number is the number of neutrons and protons in the nucleus of an atom. The release estimates come from more recent HEDR reports (see References list).
        Table 2
        Radionuclides Released to the Columbia River (1944-1971)
        Radionuclide Physical Half-Life
        in seconds (s), minutes (m),
        hours (h), days (d) or years (y) HEDR Release Estimate7
        (in curies)
        (where provided by HEDR)
        tritium (H-3) 12.3 y –
        sodium-24 15 h 13,000,000
        silicon-31 2.6 h –
        phosphorus-32 14.3 d 230,000
        calcium-45 165 d –
        scandium-46 83.8 d 120,000
        chromium-51 27.7 d 7,200,000
        manganese-54 312.5 d –
        manganese-56 2.6 h 80,000,000
        iron-59 44.5 d –
        cobalt-60 5.3 y –
        copper-64 12.7 h –
        nickel-65 2.5 h –
        zinc-65 243.9 d 500,000
        zinc-69m 13.8 h –
        gallium-72 3.3 d 3,700,000
        arsenic-76 26.3 h 2,500,000
        strontium-87m 2.8 h –
        strontium-89 50.5 d –
        strontium-90 29.1 y –
        yttrium-90 64 h 450,000
        strontium-91 9.5 h –
        yttrium-91 58.5 d –
        strontium-92 2.7 h –
        yttrium-92 3.5 h…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        yttrium-93 10.1 h –
        zirconium-95 64 d –
        niobium-95 35.2 d –
        molybdenum-99 66 h –
        technetium-99 213,000 y –
        ruthenium-103 39.3 d –
        ruthenium-106 368.2 d –
        antimony-122 2.7 d –
        antimony-124 60.2 d –
        iodine-131 8.0 d 48,000
        iodine-132 2.3 h –
        iodine-133 20.8 h –
        iodine-134 52.6 m –
        iodine-135 6.6 h –
        cesium-136 13.1 d –
        cesium-137 30 y –
        cesium-138 32.2 m –
        barium-139 82.7 m –
        barium-140 12.7 d –
        lanthanum-140 40.3 h –
        cerium-141 32.5 d –
        cerium-143 33 h –
        cerium-144 284.3 d –
        praseodymium-142 19.1 h –
        praseodymium-143 13.6 d –
        praseodymium-147 13.4 m –
        promethium-147 2.6 y –
        promethium-149 53.1 h –
        promethium-151 28.4 h –
        samarium-153 46.7 h –
        europium-152m 96 m –
        europium-152 13.3 y –
        europium-156 15.2 d –
        gadolinium-153 241.6 d –
        gadolinium-159 18.6 h –
        terbium-160 72.3 d –
        terbium-161 6.9 d –
        dysprosium-165 2.3 h –
        holmium-166 1,230 y –
        erbium-169 9.4 d –
        erbium-171 7.5 h –
        thorium-232 14,050,000,000 y –
        uraniun-238 4,468,000,000 y –
        plutonium-239 24,065 y –
        plutonium-240 6,537 y –
        neptunium-239 2.4 d 6,300,000

        “Incompleteness and Uncertainty of Release Estimates

        “HEDR did not consider all of the points at which the 237 radionuclides (the 166 released to the air and the 71 released to the river) were released into the environment. Based on the preliminary work, HEDR scientists were satisfied that they had identified the most important release points. Because of the…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        Because of the incompleteness of HEDR’s work and the gaps in the historical documentation, there is some uncertainty in the HEDR release estimates. Other sources of uncertainty include unknown accuracy of historical measurements and assumptions that form the basis for computer calculations….”

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        Wow thanks vanne

        • melting mermaid melting mermaid

          Is there like a song or acronym to help me remember all of the different radionucleides that I am being bombarded with without my knowledge or consent?

          • melting mermaid melting mermaid

            I suppose the alphabet will do. Thanks Anne for the mind boggling and incomplete list. How many ways can we throw ourselves under the bus? And that's just the nuclear bogeymen. Geez o Pete! It's the human race to the end.

  • Ki11more Ki11more

    cheers Obe and Anne just a little light reading i see…SSDD

  • Ki11more Ki11more

    Seems to me the general gist is that we are actually all fully payed up members of te Fuku'ed up….

    Had a dream last night consisting of the last few genetically viable people left able to breed on the face of earth were running and evading the mutated hordes of what was the remnants of humanity. Monstrous visions so hideous that even the devil could not stand to envision….
    The Fuku Mutant Apocalypse!

  • MrCarbon

    The sky is falling. The sky is falling. Fear mongering is nothing more than a subtle form of terrorism. You will all pay for this one day. Each and everyone of you.


      …having a bad day, MrCarbon?

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      MrCarbon, what a very interesting comment and word which I am really struggling to understand.

      Fear mongering? Just what does that mean?

      Does that mean presenting scientific facts that show the real danger of the current technologies we are spreading around the world like they are some form of candy without citizen approvals for their use?

      Does that mean that people should not see the real time results and images of the damage done by such technology on effected biological life and/or learn the facts/truth about the dangers of such technology utilization?

      Please enlighten us as to what you consider fear mongering.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Well ..considering that the original conversation was/is between me and my Maker.. I'm fine.

    To this is a portion of a hypothesis ..one of many we have here.
    The hypothesis ..is whether or not the massive amounts of radiation the entered/is entering the Pacific…is having a damaging affect on the life forms thereof..

    No one has time for.. 'fear mongering'.
    For what purpose ..and to what end?

  • saphi55 saphi55

    im sure Nature still has a trick or two up its sleeve. We all think we're somehow "Un-natural" and that the world on which we live is unable to cope with human habitation. I Believe that in this respect, we are incorrect. It doesnt mean that we should disregard our environmental responsibilities, But id not write off the planet just yet. xx

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Based on the current constant unnatural manmade environmental assault being pushed onto/into Nature 24/7, I think nature is running out of anymore tricks up her sleeve.

    Her/Nature's sleeve is now empty I afraid… 🙁

    The "6th Great Extinction Event" now moves forward at breakneck speed~! 🙁

  • saphi55 saphi55

    being awake is a good place to be. As an aside, A Vulcan bomber flew past my window today, so close; that if id have chosen that moment to sneeze, the pilot would have had to land to wipe his window! xx

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