Published: July 3rd, 2011 at 12:14 pm ET
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New Analysis of Unit 3 Fuel Pool Video Reveals Top of Fuel Bundle, Fairewinds, July 1, 2011:
- Looks like the handle of a BWR fuel bundle
- Pretty clear to me and other engineers that have seen it that this might be a single fuel bundle
- There should be a lot of bundles there
- This should be under 25 feet of water, it’s not
- It’s very near to the surface
- I really do want to thank Ian Goddard for discovering this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmgGdi4kx3A
Published: July 3rd, 2011 at 12:14 pm ET
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Daily life in Fukushima: ‘It was like visiting another universe’ VIDEO
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real-time nuke news now
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/nnn.html
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So they have a photo of an area where the spent fuel rods were not stacked.
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LOL an optimist. Fukushima optimists haven’t been scoring too well of late.
What was it about the explosion at R3 that led you to believe everything would work out ok?
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They just wafted away into the jet stream in late March.
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Ya, go back to
http://enenews.com/fire-breaks-out-at-los-alamos-technical-area-53-squirrel-blamed
and download bofh.jpg that I posted to DatafileHost.com and look. Do you see a spent fuel pool?
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I looked jebus. Can you post the link again? I’d like to see it.
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http://www.datafilehost.com/download-dc1c7e1f.html
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I agree completely Jebus. I don’t think there is a spent fuel pool in #3 and I am not sure if there is anything left of the reactor either.
there is a link for a youtube video posted by chemfood that addresses the apparent lack of a reactor in building 3. I cannot find the link now.
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I’m looking through the reports I’ve been capturing from the TEPCO site [http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/11070406_table_summary-e.pdf] about the reactors. They seem to be injecting 3 times as much water into reactor #3 at the moment and the radiation levels are looking pretty high although not as bad as reactor #1.
At this point I’m thinking that these reports aren’t entirely accurate. I’ve got all of these reports plus more from back in April, which is when they started producing them or at least mkaing them publicly available. I might now start going through them and extracting all the data and comparing it to see if it’s at all relevant.
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Reactor No. 5 also had cooling problems within the past 24 hours:
=> Jul 3rd (12:58 JST): “Hose leaking water at Fukushima No.5 reactor”
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/03_13.html
Quote: “… TEPCO, is set to replace the hose, but will have to suspend the reactor’s cooling function to
do so. It says this will raise the water temperature, but the reactor will still remain in a state of cold shutdown.”
=> Jul 3rd (16:58 JST): “Cooling resumes at Fukushima No.5 reactor”
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/03_16.html
Quote: “The operator of the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant says cooling functions have resumed at the No.5 reactor.
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“The water temperature at the reactor rose by some 5 degrees Celsius to 47.7 degrees Celsius during the suspension. But the reactor is said to have remained in a state of cold shutdown.”
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Explosion fuel pool 3 blew ? it may have left a few bundles un effected, with an explosion of this magnitudes the fuel pool may have become damaged and water is leaking from it at a faster rate then they can get to it and fill, binging the other fuel pools are also having problems with water levels due to evaporation from heating fuel rods !
The concrete pump the Chinese ship to the Japanese people to reach high enough to fill these pools is only 1 truck and has to be drove to different pools to fill at different times, can not be in all at once, so some may become lower in water that they would like ! ? If the reactor had blown under #3 pool the bottom would have been blow out ! Passingly # 3 MOX reactor did not blow and only the pool did !? Or was a muffled sneeze type explosion as the other !?
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NHK also said that Tepco was still using SEA WATER water to cool reactor 5.
That means accelerated corrosion…the water in #5 has been almost boiling in that pool at times.
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Communique from Squirrels Against Nuclear Extinction (SANE): “We did not have any part in the disapperance of Unit 3 fuel rods. TEPCO is responsible and any attempt to blame SANE will result in retaliation.”
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Ha ha ha!!
Good one.
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+100
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Ditto!
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Okay, could someone be kind and tell me about this “no spent fuel pool and no reactor 3″ thing? I am slightly confused. Are you saying that it has melted and no longer exists? Or that there never was one? Thanks!
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Confused here too.
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It seems as if much of the spent fuel pool may have gone missing somehow during the high-level exploosion there on March 14, 2011. (Search youtube for fukushima march 14 explosion unit #3) Both Busby and Gunderson independently speculated that the evidence pointed strongly towards a criticality event of some sort (somewhere). So, this video seems to be extra evidence that a good deal of MOX fuel is missing. It may be, despite The Guardian’s reassurances, that some of it reached the jet stream in particulate form.
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See video at “related posts no. 1″
(following the explosion at unit 3)”
…pieces of nuclear fuel rods were discovered as far away as 2 miles from the plant”
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correct
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here is the link for the discussion of reactor 3 as missing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZBYQ5opMLs
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Well, He is actually wrong, when he says the yellow dome in reactor 4 is the reactor.
The yellow dome was off, sitting in the corner when #4 blew the walls out only??
The reactor itself, is in the center of the buildings. The reactor is there in #4 open at the top.
No matter, #3 is destroyed completly…
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Here is a hires of both #3 and #4 buildings from above.
Zoom in on #4 and get an idea of where things lay. yellow dome in corner, big hole where reactor itself, is. Spent fuel pool to the left. It was open and under going refueling, when the shit hit the fan!
Now zoom in on #3, the layout is the same.
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Dam! Did it again, I sure miss edit post.
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-3004fa6f.html
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So he is trying to say that the explosion destroyed all of it?
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Hi Ariana
It sure looks like the explosion destroyed all of it.
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Wow… no wonder they aren’t spraying water. There’s nothing there to spray. This would mean that the very reactor which uses MOX fuel has done a Chernobyl. Why the hell are people still in the area?!
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LOL try to keep up.
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Look at this picture of a zoom to #3 reactor core
gofh.jpg
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-17234b3e.html
See the ring of bolts/mounting points in upper right area?
See the roundush hole?
See the gray matter to the left of that ring?
See how that grey matter is bundled/stacked?
That is the nuclear fuel rods from #3 reactor sitting out in the open, with the top of the steel containment gone.
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Jebus: The circular structure you have noted is the “cap fitting carousel”. This device is used to place the steel cap on the reactor pressure vessel, and tighten the bolts which hold the cap on. The carousel is quite visible in other photos. Here is a good analysis:
http://www.asianweek.com/2011/05/27/fukushima-cap-fitting-carousel-spotted/
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Well, no matter what each persons interpretation of a hires photo of #3, it does not change the fact that reactor #3′s fuel rods are all over my front porch!
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mine too ! lol
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By the way those pics, gofh.jpg and bofh.jpg cam from zooming in to this hres pic:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-5d9d5ee8.html
Zoom in and see for yourself…
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So, what does this all mean? If there was MOX fuel in #3, then the likely conclusion is that there’s plutonium all over the place? And, isn’t then the scenario that Arnie Gundersen said should see Tokyo residents evacuating??
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Yup.
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Don’t you remember the Japanese government in the last ten days admitted that ‘at least’ 200 lbs of plutonium had been ejected from the #3 into the atmosphere. That was a cagey statement – mox fuel is 13:1 – so, if 200 lbs of plutonium went up, so did 2600 lbs of uranium and other goodies. And that just what they admitted to last week. Now we learn things were several magnitudes higher. So instead of 1 to 1.5% of the core blowing out, it was more likely 15%. Like the man said, wait until the rice crop comes in.
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No Arnie said that Mox 3 meltdown and containment breach was worst case scenario but later stated that if spent fuel pool number 4 should fall thru or topple over then he said its time to evacuate Tokyo
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It’s not really a matter of interpretation. That’s what the thing is, it’s the carousel. It’s totally obvious in the photo of the IAEA “ooh aah unit”:
http://www.asianweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/unit3-ooh-aah-iaea.jpg
Anyway the reactor well is in the center of the building, not off in a corner (where they stored the carousel).
The fuel rods that were in the reactor pressure vessel all melted, so there were no remaining rods intact there. I am still very worried that if the explosion in #3 originated from inside the pressure vessel, there is indeed plutonium all over the place.
The aerial photos taken soon after the explosion show no evidence of fuel rod assemblies from the spent fuel pool scattered about, so it does not appear that the SFP really played much of a role in the explosion. The best calculations are that the water had not even reached boiling in the SFP when the explosion occurred. The notion, prevalent in the comments at enenews, that “fuel rods are scattered about unit 3″ is completely unsupported.
The real worry is that there was indeed plutonium in the explosion, and that it was in the big explosion cloud. Detecting plutonium in the environment requires a very detailed gamma ray spectroscopy measurement, and I don’t believe much of what TEPCO is telling us anyway, so we need an independent survey for it in Japan and in the US.
But if there is plutonium, it came from the reactor, not the SFP. The SFP is still there, it still holds water, and it is filled with debris from the explosion. But it was not destroyed.
See the really excellent discussion at
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=3352162
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There would be plutonium scattered about whether the March 14 explosion took place in the reactor or the spent fuel pool. Both have MOX. There have been reports of chunks of fuel rods being seen far away (1 km I think). Also, if it was a criticality event, some of the MOX fuel may have been turned into particulates and gases during the explosion. I would not dismiss the SFP theory so quickly.
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Also, what makes you think the #3 SFP is still holding water and not leaking like a sieve, having to be constantly replenished?
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The only statements I can find are to the effect that they are injecting water into the SFPs -1 units 1-4 “as needed”. I cannot find out how much is being put into Unit 3′s SFP, but the heat load is capable of boiling off many tons per day, and if they don’t keep what’s in there covered with water, it will melt.
Does the pool leak (like the one in unit 4)? I would be surprised if it did not, actually, given the magnitude of the explosion. My main worry would be the “cattle doors” which allow transfer of fuel assemblies from the reactor pressure vessel to the SFP or vice versa. Are the door seals the inflatable type that require active pressurization?
The only evidence that there is water in the SFP in unit 3 is the video that is the subject of the Arnie Gunderson video post.
I completely agree that if the explosion in unit 3 was driven by what went in inside the reactor, and the reactor vessel itself ruptured in the process, there could be plutonium all over. It’s one of my biggest fears. But I really see no evidence that whole fuel assemblies were somehow ejected from the spent fuel pool to the surroundings.
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Ok, so its the carousel, reactor #4 was still open at the top.
As for #3,
I’m not really a physics guy…
Here’s what I go by:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-608783c3.html
Worth a thousand words…
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Yup, that just about says it all. They can say that explosion was just (insert whatever bullshit theory they are peddling today), but the fact of the matter is: it’s a f-ing mushroom cloud.
The thing that really ticks me off is that people in the US are not paying any attention to this. Just because it didn’t happen in your backyard doesn’t mean it isn’t ALL OVER YOUR BACKYARD.
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You’re absolutely right, Jebus. That picture is worth a thousand words.
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Ditto. Box full of kak went BANG.
Kak everywhere.
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I read this info on Ex-SKF’s website, and was very encouraged by the one comment on the page, which said this:
“Without indulging in denial of the dire nature of the situation, it is best to try to remain positive. Descending into hopeless despair is paralysis.”
“So long as we can act, we must. So long as we can try, we must. So long as we can hope, we must.”
Really profound, and it’s just the way I’ve been feeling, living here on the west coast of California, where I’m well aware of the risks of radiation I’ve already been exposed to, and may still be being exposed to.
But what can I do? I live on the 3rd
floor of a large house; it used to be an attic, so it has no insulation. I’d probably fry my brain if I stayed indoors today.
So instead I took a 2 1/2 hour bike ride to S.F. and back, and I must say I feel fantastic; I have more energy than ever and feel inexplicably happy despite all the depressing news.
I remember seeing a documentary about a Dutch man, Wim Hof, who through meditation and mind over matter, is able to withstand extremely cold temperatures without freezing. He won a world’s record by running a half-marathon through the snow, and can sit in a walk-in freezer for the amount of time that would normally kill a person.
So I believe that somehow, some way, it is possible to overcome the physical realm and live despite all the environmental strikes against us, which seem insurmountable…
And I think, what better way to win the war against the powers that be, who obviously care nothing about our health and well-being, than to Not Die??? If their poison can’t kill us, what do they have?
Just to clarify, my mindset is NOT that of that asshole Japanese official who told people that a happy attitude is all you need to protect you from radiation, and that all is fine. Those in authority have an obligation to do everything in their power to protect their people, and when they don’t, it is criminal.
But what that quote said seems so right on, “without an attitude of denial… still find hope.”
So whether I live or whether I die because of this whole disaster, I plan on living every day to the fullest, fighting nuclear power in every way that I can, and overcoming the oppression of those that oppress…
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Very well put. Thanks for that!
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put put huhnfuss -hope less ness
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No hope, attitude exercise pospones eventual timeout (time dimension taken away from you), consequences carried into eternity.
All what is currently happening has been detailly prophesied, now is the fulfilment time. Then the time is taken away, everyone gets according her/his deeds done here in time. None of my/your motives can stand the absolute light of studying every second of the past… thus the condemnation will be hellish.
Except. Here lies the true and lasting piece of mind: there is one Yeshua Mascia who can redeem me. And you – if you want.
None of the above is my ivention but derived from the catholic banned BIBLE. The most studied opus on the globe.
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I have to say, I spent years in a religious community based on the bible and Yahshua…I left because there was as much hyposcrisy there as there was in the Christian church I left behind…
Now I am an agnostic, don’t know what to think of it all, but I’ll take my chances on the afterlife to have the freedom to live by my heart and not by a bunch of doctrines and judgmental principles.
The Bible is also the most misinterpreted book on the globe…it’s fought more wars than any other.
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And also, when I see the crap that the average resident of planet earth has to put up with just to survive, and the oppression from the evil governments that people are forced to live under, my conclusion is not that there is some benevolent God up there who loves us all and is going to save us…sorry, just don’t see it.
I do see the inherent good of the average person, despite all their faults and sins, and I believe this is what is worth saving.
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Hey WCG. That was my comment at EX-SKF. The site wouldn’t accept my screen name (of which I have dozens) so I posted as anonymous.
Glad you liked it. I refuse to be either a Polyanna or a fatalist.
Sounds like you’re in my general area. I live in Berkeley. Keep up the bike riding; I go swimming.
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P.S. Wim Hof ran a half-marathon Barefoot through the snow… here is a youtube clip about him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=madoDvtKEes
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Arnie the deaf bundles again: wheres the sound analysis?
ting ting wait for new xplosions (muted)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_83clarF6AY
(repost)
Well, dont bet on gettin any facts from a honor able jۤuit.
My guess is that the sound-less pics are from Fukushima Daini
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http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukushima.htm
someone else already posted this link about the sabotage connection
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As per the link in article:
http://www.youtube.com/user/GoddardsJournal
Please go to this channel and watch all the videos. There are several there and all done in a professional manner. If you look at the explosion of reactor 3 and the analysis that goes with it you will realise what happened. But don’t expect anyone in the nuclear industry to admit it. It is all in “Plain Sight”.
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NPR is a bunch of captive lightweights on Fuku but my heart went out to the folks who salvaged car batteries in an attempt to keep their instrumentation going…
http://www.npr.org/2011/07/05/137611026/what-went-wrong-in-fukushima-the-human-factor?ft=1&f=1025
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