Video: “People have noticed cracking in their houses in Bayou Corne” near giant sinkhole — “As they vent I feel they’re going to have more problems”

Published: January 15th, 2013 at 4:07 pm ET
By
Email Article Email Article
28 comments


Title: The Hole Truth: An Interview with Randy Rousseau
Source: 28Stones
Date Published: Jan 6, 2013

At ~7:00 in

Randy Rousseau: People have noticed already cracking in their houses in Bayou Corne. Their pools, tiles are [inaudible].

As they vent I feel they’re going to have more problems. It’s not anything that’s curable. It’s a hole in the ground that you can’t fill.

Published: January 15th, 2013 at 4:07 pm ET
By
Email Article Email Article
28 comments

Related Posts

  1. Man near sinkhole worried after official asked him to list his next of kin on form August 17, 2012
  2. NPR Reporter: Bayou Corne sinkhole is a national story — New York Times: Sinkhole ‘frenzy’ ensues (AUDIO) March 16, 2013
  3. Video: Huge methane bubble site found near giant Louisiana sinkhole — Within 100 ft. of Bayou Corne home May 8, 2013
  4. New Extended Flyover of Bayou Corne Sinkhole — First since 7,500 square feet of land fell in — More oil sheen than previously observed (VIDEO & PHOTOS) February 16, 2013
  5. NPR: Strange things happening near massive sinkhole in Louisiana — “Doors pop open by themselves” — You can hear the cracking (AUDIO) March 21, 2013

28 comments to Video: “People have noticed cracking in their houses in Bayou Corne” near giant sinkhole — “As they vent I feel they’re going to have more problems”

  • PavewayIII PavewayIII

    It sounds like he said "…their pools… tiles are falling off here and there…"

    The most striking (and sad) thing about these 28stones interviews is that the locals think something should be done, but have mostly given up hope. "Yup, we're getting screwed by [insert random LA energy biz here] and [insert random LA state agency here] isn't going to help."

    Texas Brine and their Bayer/Occidental/Dow masters very knowingly chose to expand the existing caverns way over at the Western edge of the dome because 1) it was cheap, and 2) salt caverns are the ideal place to hoard NGLs until you can use them sell them for a higher price.

    What's their liability if they screw up the salt dome? Almost zero – at least for a decade or two. Taxpayers will cover the company's costs until then. That's why taxpayers exist. They're suppose to be a profit center, not an expense. If they get uppity, remind them where their paychecks come from. That'll shut them up.

    See if you can spot the difference between TEPCO and Texas Brine:

    1. Cheaper is better
    2. Hide your past mistakes
    3. OOOoooops… Gosh, we're really sorry. And we mean that.
    4. Of course we'll clean everything up. We got plenty of ideas.
    5. Hmmm…. turns out we can't clean it up, but we tried.
    6. You can never go home, and now we want to stop paying for your ratty motel. Two years is long enough.
    7. Here's some chump change for your worthless property. Take it or leave it. No? See ya in court then.


    Report comment

  • markww markww

    Published on Jan 6, 2013

    Seismographs showing Alaska 7.5 affecting LA sinkhole and Yellowstone

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWI-kuaLeGQ

    Markww


    Report comment

    • pcjensen

      something big soon perhaps, looking at the seismographs of late, be safe y'all


      Report comment

    • VanneV anne

      markww, TY for sharing all your vast knowledge with this website. And this post is especially important, IMHO.


      Report comment

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      MarkWW, with all due respect — this is no attack on you personally. That being said, people who have NO BACKGROUND in seismology or reading seismographic data have NO BUSINESS drawing "cause and effect" conclusions based on seismographic readings.

      Yes, an earthquake in one area will be registered by seismographic stations at other locations far from it. That DOES NOT MEAN the earthquake in one area is causing ground motion in the other area. The woman who made the YouTube video talking about a supposed cause and effect is blowing hot air and she should keep her baseless opinions to herself.

      Repeat, the woman showing the supposed cause and effect between the Alaska EQ, the Yellowstone Caldera, and Bayou Come is absolutely clueless about seismographic data. She is doing nothing but making herself appear totally foolish, and she should keep her mouth shut. This is fearmongering.

      Next time you'd like to see how the seismographic data compares, find a large earthquake, then to go Red Puma, the USGS site, University of Nevada, Reno, UC Berkeley, or any other university or seismology lab of your choice. Then read and compare the data for the time period in which the earthquake took place.

      Note: most seismographic stations are located in hilltops or mountain tops (where they exist), and even wind can cause the type of "signature" one sees in the Bayou Come data.


      Report comment

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        W/O seeing the data "signature" from beginning to end for the event, it's virtually impossible to tell what is occurring. The seismic "signature" in the Bayou Come data just looks like a bunch of unintelligible gibberish. Something was occuring, but there isn't enough data shown to draw any conclusions.

        Sometimes I have to call a spade, a spade. When the person making the statements is so off base their conclusions are utter meaningless gibberish with no basis in fact, then it's just not possible for me not to point out the ridiculousness of the statement(s) being made.

        Perhaps some Newsers with good knowledge of Seismology out there (and I know you're out there) can make a more clear statement on why these "conclusions" are baseless.


        Report comment

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          That being said, the Bayou Come data shows many small "normal looking" earthquakes occurring at a later time — probably within the next four hours or so. (Am not sure of the time period covered by the data.) The EQ's appear to come at fairly regular intervals, which makes one wonder if man-made events are causing ground movement.


          Report comment

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        EX: Red Puma in Switzerland, UNR, and UC Berkeley all registered earthquake wave signatures on their seismographic data, when the great Sumatra earthquake occurred.

        Scroll down in this article and read under the title, "Energy Released."

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami

        Yes, the quake was "felt," but not as strong ground motion far from the earthquake itself.

        See this chart as well for a visual explanation:

        Vertical-component ground motions recorded by the IRIS/USGS Global Seismographic Network.

        "Because of its enormous energy release and shallow rupture depth, the earthquake generated remarkable seismic ground motions around the globe, particularly due to huge Rayleigh (surface) elastic waves that exceeded 1 cm (0.4 in) in vertical amplitude everywhere on Earth. The record section plot below displays vertical displacements of the Earth's surface recorded by seismometers from the IRIS/USGS Global Seismographic Network plotted with respect to time (since the earthquake initiation) on the horizontal axis, and vertical displacements of the Earth on the vertical axis (note the 1 cm scale bar at the bottom for scale). The seismograms are arranged vertically by distance from the epicenter in degrees. The earliest, lower amplitude, signal is that of the compressional (P) wave, which takes about 22 minutes to reach the other side of the planet (the antipode; in this case near Ecuador).


        Report comment

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          (cont.)

          "The largest amplitude signals are seismic surface waves that reach the antipode after about 100 minutes. The surface waves can be clearly seen to reinforce near the antipode (with the closest seismic stations in Ecuador), and to subsequently encircle the planet to return to the epicentral region after about 200 minutes. A major aftershock (magnitude 7.1) can be seen at the closest stations starting just after the 200 minute mark. This aftershock would be considered a major earthquake under ordinary circumstances, but is dwarfed by the mainshock."

          The IRIS network is a good source of information. Without making a clear statement on cause and effect, it's pointless to say there was a strong "effect" far from an earthquake, such as the recent one in Alaska.


          Report comment

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            My point is, the person who posted the YouTube video makes here statements as if something unique and momentous has occurred, which it has not. What she has observed is amplitude wave signatures at distance from a source.


            Report comment

          • FREEDOMROX

            Doesn't stop me from trying though, since I have successfully predicted and called the first 'Burp' before and during the event on Nov. 27, and did so again with 'Ibuiltthis' help in early December. Another is being created as we speak, and because of all the weird weather conditions, and the actions of the VSP team. Hughes is the one that performed the first VSP in 2010 and it screamed 'Cavern Failure Imminent', yet LDNR and Texas Brine covered this up and only recently released it. It clearly shows the chain of events that led up to the bottom cavern 'Blow Out' of Oxy 3.
            If anyone is interested in the report then contact me at my blog, and I will instruct you on how to obtain it. Just comment on any thread.

            http://freedomrox.wordpress.com/


            Report comment

      • FREEDOMROX

        OK, you asked for it. All Seismos are linked. Period. They all go to a Central Processing facility. The quake was not felt in Tennessee anymore than Bayou Corne. It is a local seismic event only when not detecting other seismic events equal to or over the event happening.
        That said, there have been minor seismic events at Bayou Corne, and actually are being caused by the "Thumper" truck used for the Vertical Seismic Profile that is being taken of the "Stinkhole" between 6 pm, and 6 am every night. During the day Texas Brine and it's contractors are drilling seismic and observation wells, and even another two Flaring wells, so nothing can be taken from the above ground Heli's until they are done.
        The 'Borehole Heli's' are only useful at night to get an overal basic view of the seismic survey. I have noticed a resonance deep below and have notified TB, Shaw, and Hughes of that fact. I am sure they saw it as well, and hope TBG and CSG pressures do not continue to rise. There is a hint of seismic 'fall ins', or harsh liquid migrations.
        Truly, unless you can interpret the data…then don't speak f it, no matter how well intentioned for at least another week. There is a survey ongoing, heli's being changed out, and others installed.
        The overburden of 1000's of gallons of water is adding a more dangerous element to this, but so far so good.
        Hopefully they will continue monitoring everything in real time, and surely don't need my help.
        (cont)


        Report comment

        • PavewayIII PavewayIII

          Sure they need your help, frox – especially to hold their feet to the fire.

          To the DNR's credit, they went out and hired Shaw to look at the problem rather than just uselessly demanding that Texas Brine do so. Texas Brine is going to chose cheap, not good.

          So far, the DNR has spent hundreds of thousands of tax dollars on Shaw for their engineering expertise. Shaw said they need two 6000' wells for seismic work. I appreciate your arguments to the contrary frox, but I have to go with Shaw on this one. If Shaw engineers say they need those wells to see what's going on, then *someone* should already be drilling them. The DNR's function in all this is to buy whatever their contractors need to get the job done.

          If the DNR was afraid that GOOD geologists might ask for GOOD tools to study the problem (the 6000' wells), then why did they hire them AT ALL? Hire the brother-in-law of someone from Texas Brine if you want cheap engineering and cheaper solutions.

          If the DNR was afraid the LA courts would let Texas Brine weasel out of paying for anything, then why spend taxpayer dollars for good engineers that could be overruled by Texas Brine a quarter-of-a-million dollars into the geologic work?

          Texas Brine caused the damn problem. The DNR spent good money to get the job half-way done and now just sits there and pouts because Texas Brine is stingy. Cowardice…

          FINISH the job just this once, you LA DNR losers.


          Report comment

          • FREEDOMROX

            Have you actually studied the Sept. 25th 2010 Vertical Seismic Profile? If you have, then you would know why I advocated so much for this type of detail.

            It also is the 'proof-positive', that LDNR, Texas Brine, and Baker Hughes knew the cavern was about to fail, and all parties, (except Baker Hughes), are LIABLE for this catastrophe, and had the prior knowledge and failed to warn the people in advance…

            LDNR is complicit at every step as much as Texas Brine is.

            Steps to download VSP. First go here.

            http://ucmwww.dnr.state.la.us/ucmsearch/busfunctions.aspx

            and to the right box labeled Well Serial Number, type in the Well Number 180708 and make sure you 'tick' the 'Get Associated Documents' box, and hit Search.

            This will bring a 'Popup' window and scroll down to VERTICAL SEISMIC PROFILE. You can download as a PDF.

            Also take note that the Permit from DNR is missing when you look around for the 2010, 2350 ft. cut, which supposedly started this whole ordeal, and as well, please take note of when many documents were submitted and when DNR published them.


            Report comment

            • PavewayIII PavewayIII

              Yes, I've seen it. I think I posted on all of this a few months ago. You're talking about who knew what, when. I think I can put it a year earlier than 2010, but don't care.

              The only sensible thing being done properly right now is being done by the Shaw geologists. The DNR stepped up to the plate and hired them before the useless court battles about liability. Why doesn't the DNR get the two wells drilled? If they don't, then they wasted every tax dollar they spent hiring Shaw.

              If the LA DNR is going to let Texas Brine make decisions about how to identify and fix the problem, then they are truly useless.

              They should immediately fire Shaw if they're not going to listen to them. They (the DNR) should promptly appologize to LA taxpayers for wasting a half-million on Shaw and inform Bayou Corne residents that they're on their own. *Then* the DNR should get their stupid SWAT trailers off of Bayou Corne land and stop pretending that they're managing anything.

              DNR's move. Use your contractors or get the heck out of there if you're nothing but Texas Brine lackeys.


              Report comment

      • markww markww

        Tators if you look at earthquakes that register above a 7 the whole Plate shifts, just Like Fukushima and Indonesia .No onlydo these earthquakes hit but slow the planet down like putting on the brakes of your motor vehicle.

        The earthquakes are felt for thousands of miles and there is a important factor its like Jelly.The plate under the USA that runs from Alaska can be felt and helicorders did show the quake Stresses past La. In fact new Gas pockets opened up after that. As To The Quake its self, under ground fissures that gap allow methane to travel thousands of miles

        Markww


        Report comment

        • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

          markww – you are absolutely correct – I reviewed helicorder seismograph charts from all over the country the day of the Alaska quake and it showed up on EVERYONE of them from coast to coast.


          Report comment

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          OK, in the sense you are describing it, I can agree with your statement. I just had a problem with the manner in which the woman presented the material in the video, because she was not describing what really happened.

          Yes, the helicorders will pick up the earthquake at distance from the source. That always happens. There is absolutely nothing unusual about it.

          What I have a problem with is when people don't understand this occurs all the time, and try to make it look like something really unusual (and related) happened.

          Like calling correlation causation. Do you get my drift? And Mark, I'm not disagreeing with you. However, I'd have to say the earthquake likely wasn't "felt" in the same manner in Louisiana as it was "felt" within a couple hundred miles of the epicenter in Alaska.

          "To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." Things are just behaving according to Newton's third law of thermodynamics. Nothing unusual. Things keep moving once they are set into motion, until momentum is lost.


          Report comment

  • FREEDOMROX

    I would dearly love to speak with this gentleman and get his list of all the 'incidents' since 1991. My heart goes out to him and all of the other victims of Corporate greed.


    Report comment

    • Maggie123

      Similar thoughts came up for me, FR. Something of a jaw-dropping experience to hear him mention an event, then another, then another … and to realize how long he and others kept waiting, hoping, for resolution that would give them back their community.

      I really did hope 2012 would turn out to be the year of 'waking up' so that 2013 could become the year of creative, intelligent, cooperative-to-all-needs, solution finding. It seems we're not yet finished going through the house, from top to bottom, throwing open closet and cellar doors and finding out what's buried there. Ten years ago, I thought "May you live in interesting times" was a witty curse and enjoyed that it was said an ancient one. In the last few years the wit has lost it's charm!


      Report comment

      • FREEDOMROX

        But it is so apropo. We live amongst the most interesting and illuminating times this earth has ever seen!

        This was actually a quote. From 1215 AD, and 1692, and 1775, and 1812, and 1835, and 45, and 1861 and 65, and 1871, and 92, ad infinitum.

        We have it worse and we have it better than all the times that have come before and the times to come.

        Life survives. We survive as a species. If necessary, we evolve. If not we all die.

        Guess what? No one makes it out alive. Too many people enjoy the worry and the wringing of hands. When we should all just enjoy the fricken ride. Yes, we ahould fight against injustice, and we should stand and even die for our values, and our principles, and our ethics!

        But what good is any of those things, if you don't enjoy life. I truly think, even with the long-suffering shown by Mr. Rousseau, that he exemplifies just the simple act of enjoying life and living it to it's fullest, without losing sight of the issues we all must deal with on a daily basis.

        Just saying….


        Report comment

      • PurpleRain

        I noticed the same thing…. his whole family, friends, neighbors have been dealing with these issues day in and day out for years and years and years…. I'm sure some of the fight goes out of them if they don't have others that have their back and keep the fight fresh. Can you imagine how many stupid community meetings this guy has probably attended…. along with others…where they each get the same spoonful of lies and bs and false-answers attached to pretty fake smiles. … I keep hoping for that 2013 Mayan dawning of a new 'enlightenment' of some kind, but maybe it's just wishful thinking too.


        Report comment

        • FREEDOMROX

          Get out of the depression mode. It is not worthy of any of us. You missed the pint. Mr. Rousseau is showing you how not to be beaten, and to enjoy life, no matter the hardships.

          Life is in the details, and it's always the little things that count…and make us human.

          Enjoy life in all it's diversity, while it is here. If it all leaves, then wring your hands then, because the end is nigh…but not a moment before.


          Report comment

    • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

      markww – look at the video you just posted at the 1min30seconds in. The waterway behind the DO NOT DREDGE sign is new. Every other video when they go by that sign has been foilage and dry land behind that sign. The sinkhole is now directly connected to the bayou system and all their nasty chemicals are going into the waterways and eventually into the gulf. Anyone that lives on and or fishes out of the bayous south of Bayou Corne should beware. Im sure their little booms are only catching the floating crude. Lots of nastys getting through Im sure. With all the rain they have had in the last week or so surely the top water area of the sinkhole is close or at the highway by now. Wonder if someone close can go take a few photos?


      Report comment

You must be logged in to post a comment.