VIDEO: Radioactive material now flowing toward Tokyo and contaminating their water supply; Problems “actually only getting worse” — “Truth is no one in world really knows how to deal with Fukushima” — Gov’t Expert: Tepco “should give up’ making ice walls

Published: September 21st, 2014 at 2:17 pm ET


Dr Ronald McCoy, MD, physician, Sept. 18, 2014 (emphasis added): Experts say that the Japanese government will soon be left with no choice but to release radioactive water into the ocean… The truth is that no one in the world really knows how to deal with the Fukushima accident… Murphy’s Law is inexorable: If anything can go wrong, in time it will go wrong. A major nuclear accident [can] render large areas of land uninhabitable for thousands of years.

Japan Times, Sept 19, 2014: Tepco started building ice walls [but] has been unable to seal the leaks… it hasn’t been able to freeze because the [highly contaminated] water is flowing too fast [from the turbine buildings]. Tepco is trying to figure out how it can seal up the leak[s]… but it is still unclear when it will be able to plug the leaks. [Atsunao Marui, a groundwater expert who is a member of a government panel dealing with the tainted water issue] said Tepco has been spending too much time trying to make the ice walls work, and should give up  and explore other alternatives.

Interview with Yokohama evacuees Beverly Findlay Kaneko and son Ryan, Social Uplift, Sept. 14, 2014 (at 3:00 in): I started working on March 11 this year, 2014, with Libbe Halevy of Nuclear Hotseat and we helped her produce a segment called Voices from Japan (Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4)… We interviewed probably 12-14 different people, top people in the anti-nuclear and the humanitarian movements, regarding Fukushima… Every last one of those people said here we are 3 years after the disaster and nothing has changed. Nothing has changed except for the fact that the government keeps trying to brush the issue under the rug and cover up… Unfortunately the cleanup up the site has not progressed they are to the point now where there is so much contaminated water collecting at the site that now the only choice they have is to dump it into the Pacific Ocean. The rivers in Fukushima Prefecture were contaminated at the time of the accident. That contamination is now flowing toward the Tokyo area, contaminating the Tokyo water supply. So environmentally things have not gotten better they’re actually only getting worse.

Dr. Ferenc Dalnoki-Veress and Dr. Arjun Makhijani, Asia-Pacific Journal, Dec. 19, 2011: Some of the fuel has reached the concrete floor and may breach it, posing a threat of unremediable contamination of ground water.

See also: Bloomberg: Could Fukushima contamination flow downstream to Tokyo and present a big risk? (VIDEO)

Watch the Kaneko’s interview here

Published: September 21st, 2014 at 2:17 pm ET


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291 comments to VIDEO: Radioactive material now flowing toward Tokyo and contaminating their water supply; Problems “actually only getting worse” — “Truth is no one in world really knows how to deal with Fukushima” — Gov’t Expert: Tepco “should give up’ making ice walls

  • Sickputer

    SP: In honor of my late dad's birthday I titled this poem today from the original posted in August 2012.
    Stay the course because this global danger threatens every living organism on earth.

    "Bury My Heart at Fukushima," Sickputer

    A land of incredible beauty no more
    Dead fishes rot upon the shore
    Children gasp through throats so sore
    Our homes are prisons forever more

    They have killed us all, yet death comes slow
    Radioactive winds continue to blow
    They say we are safe from the Daiichi piles
    Just drink your tea and wear big smiles

    But we know the winds bring continued woe
    Toxic rain and nuclear snow
    My nose is bleeding and bowels are loose
    Fukushima's toxins have cooked my goose

    I would take my family and try to flee
    But this is my home, can't you see?
    The enemy is silent and impossible to spot
    Great sickness is here and that is our lot

    Tell all the world about our death throes
    Our sick, sick land and unspeakable woes
    Death of a nation by our own hand
    Toxic waste killing children in our land

    We are so sorry we killed the great sea
    It wouldn't have happened if left up to me
    In closing please know my warning is true
    This terrible tragedy can happen to you

  • rogerthat

    do people know about this:

    Workers barely made it out of mine, worker says in affidavit

    CARLSBAD, N.M. Sept 19 —Problems at the state’s nuclear waste disposal plant began when a salt truck caught fire earlier this year. The man who drove that truck said he almost died the day it caught fire…
    The driver said he’d been working at WIPP since September 2013 and yet he said he was never trained on how to deal with a fire on the vehicle he was driving that day.

    The driver said he didn’t know how to use the portable fire extinguisher or the manual fire suppression system. According to the affidavit, the driver said several people tried to help put out the fire, but the smoke grew thick and management above ground turned off the ventilation system while people were still in the mine.

    He said miners can’t survive very long without that system.

    Employees called management, saying, “We need air — you are killing us down here.” But the air never came back on.

    The driver claims the lights and alarms that are supposed to turn on in case of a fire didn’t turn on. He said he and his coworkers barely made it out alive…

    Read more:

    • rogerthat

      DOE lists key cleanup tasks for WIPP
      By Zack Ponce @zackponce12 on Twitter
      Sept 20:

      … WIPP Recovery Manager Jim Blankenhorn said. "We will make sure WIPP is safer and stronger than ever when it reopens. As part of that, we have some trust (issues) that we have to resolve so we can assure the community and employees that all concerns have been rectified and the site will continue to operate to the highest standard," …

      Some of the last steps will be to make sure the salt walls in the area of the radiation release are washed and covered to remediate the problem, according to Blankenhorn.

      The DOE is also working to install the final metal bulkhead on Panel 6 of the underground as asked for by the state of New Mexico.

      Earlier in the week, Los Alamos National Laboratories said they are monitoring another waste drum stored in Panel 6 that was packed with similar materials as the waste drum that released americium and plutonium. During the meeting, Franco said the DOE is working hard to ensure all workers are safe during the recovery process.

      "As you have probably heard or read in the papers or on the internet, there's been talk of a second drum in the Panel 6 area and I just wanted to let you know that if any of those things that come up (we're prepared)…

      • rogerthat

        Consensus eludes nuclear dump hearings
        After lengthy public hearings, the debate over a proposed nuclear waste storage site moves to Ottawa when a federal panel submits its recommendations on the plan.

        …A confusing element in the hearings was OPG’s disclosure that in the future it wants to double the size of the underground facility, to hold waste from decommissioned and dismantled nuclear stations.
        The panel called the latest hearings after former OPG scientist Frank Greening said that OPG had severely understated the amount and level of radioactive material destined for the site.
        He also questioned whether zirconium – a metal used for tubing in reactor cores, and which will be present in the waste – could ignite and burn intensely…

        “OPG is not telling us the real reason for choosing this site, and that is to save the billions of dollars that would have to be spent in moving this pile of radioactive waste en masse to where it really belongs, and that is in a more remote and safer location,” he said.
        … officials who appeared before the committee said that while some of OPG’s original work was incorrect, the built-in safety margins safety margins mean that the site remains safe for workers and the public.
        Radiation doses in the case of accidents would still be within acceptable levels, they said…

        • RT, I'd read some of the original WIPP warnings sometime back…made me feel sick to my stomach at the time. Doesn't seem to matter who and where anymore. The response to warnings is always the *we're prepared* *safer and better*

          Barf! I need to join CBA. (chronic barfer's anonymous)

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            I used to work on a scientific project which was evaluating the Yucca Mountain site. We were told, straight out of DOE materials, that only low level waste would be stored at WIPP.

            Part of our job training was to be given an overview of the status of nuclear waste storage in the U.S., and where the high and low level waste were to be stored.

            We were also told the waste that would not be immediately moved to Carlsbad or Yucca Mountain would go into dry cask storage. There was some discussion on the issue of waste being stored on site at nuclear plants. The DOE was said to have the goal of getting all the nuclear waste into long-term safe storage.

            Twenty years later, that has not happened, and WIPP is a train wreck.

            But we're talking about Tokyo and its aquifer here. Nonetheless, what the U.S. has done with the nuke waste (or not done) is typical for the industry. There is such flagrant disregard for safety, there is little wonder why "accidents" like Fukushima happen.

        • name999 name999

          The dumping of toxic wastes on Lake Huron shores is unacceptable and needs to be stopped. These reservoirs of Lakes feed the water air and soil of the world. There needs to be a No Dumping sign for this. That is no wastes dumped on the shoreline of Lake Huron.

      • We Not They Finally

        rogerthat, it is unclear why you are reprinting WIPP management's assurances about ANYTHING, when they do not even publish plutonium readings for the surrounding areas. There will be a death toll, and largely of people who do NOT work at WIPP at all.

        ISeePinkClouds recently posted that he went right to the area and measured radiation in the Carlsbad area, even quite far from WIPP, and it was getting too lethal to evevn go back himself. So what does it matter what false assurance they are giving when they obviously do not even care if people live or die?

        • rogerthat

          WNTF, because their assurances are a joke, that's all. The two posts go together: the workers who nearly died because WIPP is a shambles, and Blankenhorn's assurance that "We will make sure WIPP is safer and stronger than ever when it reopens. As part of that, we have some trust (issues) that we have to resolve …''
          This tells me that WIPP, should it ever reopen, will still be a shambles, and that all the heavy lifting will be done by the PR Department to resolve their ''trust issues''.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Bet you're glad you're out of New Mexico, eh, WNTF? Glad you were able to make the move.

        • ISeePinkClouds

          Yes. This is true. I managed to get within eight miles of the WIPP plant. I made charts of all of this from Eunice to Carlsbad. I reading I took indicate the entire area should be evacuated immediately. I spent two nights in Carlsbad proper. One night on the southern most end. I read a mean average background of 17.9 counts per minute. The following night I took a room downtown Carlsbad. The mean average background was 28.6 counts per minute. Downtown I could feel heat from the radiation. My ears began ringing. My nose began running. My nervous system became agitated. I developed a localized headache. I became nauseous. Though I spent the night, I could not sleep. I left Carlsbad post haste in the morning. I have battled those symptoms since. It may be my tolerance is lower than some. I worked with radioactive materials for 14 years, so I certainly have an accumulated dose. I am recovering using advice from ENENEWS combating radiation forum. Carlsbad drove home the point to me that the radiation background is increasing everywhere. Twenty eight counts exceeds my tolerance threshold. I am at home now in Southwest Texas. I am seeing 22cpm on my inside counter. This time last year I had 16cpm inside. I am considering earthbagging my home, or moving into a shipping container at night. I learned an important lesson. Radiation is fast upon everyone now. Carlsbad is contaminated and must be evacuated, and WIPP closed permanently. This is the truth. peace

        • name999 name999

          wntf, that is so completely well stated.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      good find, roger that. Everyone working with this technology needs to be fully trained, and especially in matters of safety. That they are not just makes me scratch my head.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        "You turned the air off and you are killing us down here." And yet the management never turned the ventilation system back on.

        Hoping Stock sees this and puts commentary in his blog. He has been all over this since it happened.

  • Nick

    Perhaps a HUGE reason the world ho hums Fukushima news is the fact
    that the nuclear military industrial complex is alive and well.

    "U.S. Ramping Up Major Renewal in Nuclear Arms"

    Face it, we can rant and rave all we want about the evils of nuclear power. But it is the weapons side that gets a free pass.

    Tell me again where the MIC plans on storing the waste from the warheads?

    Why are we not calling for the abolishment of nuclear weapons?

    M.A.D. = GMI

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Why are we not calling for the abolishment of nuclear weapons?

      Because they preparing for the creation of a new Nuclear Weapon induced sterilized.. Heaven and Earth?

      • Bones Bones

        Along with that line of thinking, I've noticed how easily in the media they push the narrative that Tepco is separate from the government and by extentsion the military. Tepco is the Japanese government and one of the many heads of the hydra. TEPCO and the Japanese government can keep pointing the finger of blame at one another to keep most people not thinking they are one and the same. I always see Tepco used as the scapegoat by all these organizations just like how the sailors don't blame the Navy [YEAH, RIGHT on a nuclear powered carrier they didn't know.], but have to file against Tepco and not even directly Japan itself. I always wondered as a kid why Chernobyl didn't start a war against the Soviet Union. Now, it all makes sense. There are elites and us. The ones with the overtly biggest weapons are the nuke cartels. They are all intertwined. Banks, political bodies, espionage agencies, nuke companies, military, etc. all heads of the same hydra. Seems each aspect of anti-nuke needs to stick to just it's own interest such as abolishing nuclear bombs of all types, then those against plants, then those against mining, those against human testing, the medical experts, etc. etc. A unified knowledge and pr attack on every single plane they operate. Sorry for rambling, I'm just burnt out on Fukushima.

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          Damn it, Jim! I'm a lifeform, not a punching bag!

        • We Not They Finally

          I think the sailors WOULD have sued the Navy if they were legally allowed to do so. The Navy SHOULD be sued over this for sure.

          Do not know what would be involved if they made Navy liability a public issue. Some at least are already getting disability pensions and unclear how that would be impacted. Or if they are forced to depend on the V.A. for ongoing medical care and that could be jeopardized. And their circumstances are genuinely desperate, not predatory. They may just have had to resort to the party they COULD sue, even if it tells only part of the tale.

          That said, it wold be good if support groups for the military from those no longer in the service, made a HUGE issue of it. Don't really have any back story as to why, though I think that the veteran support groups may be more based in Iraqi and Afghanistan veterans, not Naval matters.

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    • m a x l i

      @Nick, the problem of storing the waste from the nuclear warheads has ben solved. There are established and approved methods to WIPP it under the carpet.

    • name999 name999

      nick, love your writing. The message is right on target.

  • scottyji scottyji

    >Perhaps a HUGE reason the world ho hums Fukushima news is the fact
    that the nuclear military industrial complex is alive and well.

    Well yes AND…the world ho-hums Fukushima because radioactive contamination is INVISIBLE. Like car exhaust: If you can't see it, taste it, smell it, hear it…well…what's there to worry about?
    ALSO…we human live with the illusion that we are exceptional creatures (Ask Obama to expand on this idea) and therefore reside outside the domaine and influence of such inconveniences as global warming and environmental contamination of all sorts.

    • Bones Bones

      That makes denial so easy and denial is extremely stubborn. I think all humans know how dangerous "nuclear power" is and yet they have cogitative dissonance. It's like how the U.S. was always saying a nuclear war would bring about a nuclear winter and yet how many decades did Americans just let thousands of nuclear bombs be blown up in their backyard? They thought those were safe? Probably not, but propaganda, denial, and let's say the "human condition" let people who feel powerless and want to just act like nothing is wrong be the ones in majority who speak lies about nuclear energy, while knowing in their minds the horrible reality.

    • J.

      "the world ho-hums Fukushima because radioactive contamination is INVISIBLE."

      Yes, and reliable testing gear is not cheap and not widely sold. One of the best Kickstarter projects I can think would be one to create a high-quality, low cost gadget to convert CPMs to a visual display. This could be a pair of glasses or a screen display on a cell phone. I think it's doable, and would make a difference. Imagine the parent in a public park, holding the hand of a small child. Is it safe to play here? The proposed device would provide an image that would give a usable, down-and-dirty answer.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        j., there is already an app for radation detection for smart phones. Not sure what platform it uses. A couple of people here have mentioned it. Anti-Proton may also have mentioned it on one of his YouTube videos. I thought he (or someone else who makes nuclear education videos) said they use the app all the time when traveling.

  • Sol Man

    There is no preparing for having more plutonium, or whatever radionuclides, blowing in the wind regardless of what statements are made. Do you want your child or grandchild exposed to this hellish stuff?

    It is a ridiculous question because so much is set for MORE.

  • Nick

    Sign on an empty beach in the near future:

    Gone Fission.

  • Nick

    As we trumpet the evils of carbon-based global climate alteration and gleefully march side by side with corporations that are greenwashing us all happily to the carbon-credit Wall-Street fleece
    march, the invisible horrors of radiation increase exponentially throughout the biosphere.

    Japan will restart nuclear reactors.

    More bombs will be built.

    Grandchildren will never be born.

    • Nick, you are correct.

      The carbon credit thing (Properly called Carbon Tax)will also help accomplish the NWO task of transferring wealth from the US to large multinationals foreign accounts, and American goods will become more expensive relative to foreign goods which do not have to pay the additional carbon tax.

      • We Not They Finally

        Interesting that anyone envisions collecting huge taxes from corporations who barely pay ANY taxes now. What are the "catches," anyway?

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          For comment below:

          "People should NEVER assume the term "NWO" is some fantasy term with no grounding in reality. It has been a part of U.S. and European policy for …"

          decades, to manipulate the money supply to influence the value of currencies, the balance of trade, and the business cycle, steering the economies of nations and the world as a whole.

          Sometimes they blow it. Like allowing the derivatives market to operate more or less unfettered, gutting the Glass Steagal Act, and adopting the policy of Quantitative Easing then continuing to create endless amounts of fiat currency, without restraint.

          They have blown it big time, this time. The wealthy are already bailing out of the dollar, and buying hard assets, esp. gold. Take a clue from the rich and get a fall back position, if you're able to do it. The times they are a changin'

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Stock, you are correct. When I was at University, in an International Business program, we were educated on the New World Order as an economic new world order. It was always their stated goal to establish large regional trading blocks, introduce common currencies, then to politically and socially integrate large groups of disparate people groups.

        Another stated goal (by the early 1990's) was to reduce the carbon footprint of Western, industrialized nations through taxation. It was even spoken of as "redistribution of wealth" and justified as being good for the greater number of people.

        The goal was to take wealth from the industrialized nations and "redistribute" it to developing nations.

        Now we know all this is just a flimsy cover for private bankers' greedy schemes, to empower corporations and disempower people, and to steal the hard earned wealth of middle class people in developed countries.

        I'm sickened that I was ever so indoctrinated as to believe this B.S.

        The Keynesians found ways to adapt existing mathematical formulae to prove the existence of a so-called "business cycle." It actually occurs through the manipulation of currencies, blocks of stock, derivatives, and taxation. Fiscal and monetary policies, the money supply are manipulated to achieve the ends of the New World Order promoters.

        People should NEVER assume the term "NWO" is some fantasy term with no grounding in reality. It has been a part of U.S. and European policy for…

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          One of the biggest realizations of my life was coming to the point where I grasped enough of the complex mathematics of managerial economics to realize the mathematics can be adapted to prove just about everything.

          If the variables are entered correctly so that their placement is logical, one can "prove" just about anything. One could even use some of the formulae to "prove" why a potential date should entertain the idea of a relationship. I actually did that on paper using one of the formulae. Of course I never went anywhere with that one! But the point is, you can use mathematics to "prove" just about anything you want, if your audience is uneducated enough to believe the "theory" actually applies to their situation.

          What I got from it was that the "dirty float" (adding or subtracting dollars from the money supply) could be used to accomplish all kinds of financial ends. The business cycle can be tweaked by tampering with the money supply alone.

          Why are some people so adamantly opposed to Quantitative Easing? Because we understand it can have devastating effects on the world economy. The business cycle is a farce. It is an artificial construct. Am sure I was never supposed to figure that one out. OK, so can I have my Ph.D. in New Economics now?

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Keynesian economic theory has some validity. The problem is the artificial tweaking of the economy, tampering with the money supply. This is an artificial means of creating "equilibrium" in an economy.

          The value of currencies vis a vis one another (against the value of the dollar, the world's reserve currency) is supposed to move toward equilibrium through normal free market forces.

          Disasterous events such as oil price shocks, wars, political instability, or other economic "shocks" can create major dis-equilibrium in money markets. The free market in normal operation is supposed to move currency values through the "float" of currencies toward their true value.

          Central banks have tampered with the "float" as a standard practice ever since the Bretton Woods agreement went into effect. Ostensibly, it has been done to stablize money markets and economies. This strategy has often been very effective.

          However, in the past several decades, this tool of economic manipulation has been used to achieve less virtuous ends, and to enrich Central Banks and the private banks which are their members. And to enrich corporations, private interest entities.

          That the implications of the economic policy of "wealth redistribution" has not been opposed by the governments of sovereign nations is utterly baffling to me.

          OK, end of rant.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Not trying to brag about my education bec. it's not all that. Just wanted to illustrate people are being brainwashed in these programs to accept the redistribution of wealth, carbon taxation, and so on as necessary and good things. Never mind the middle class and national sovereignty are destroyed in the process.

          Cultural identity? National heritage? What's that?

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            What I'm trying to say is the swing of the business cycle from equilibrium, to recession or depression, and back to economic growth and prosperity can all be artificially created through the action of Central Banks in changing the money supply.

            Lots of nations are tired of this B.S. There are some 136 nations which want out of the present economic system. Russia and China are leading the move toward change, and they are in the process of implementing a new currency.

            This is not great news for the banksters and their cronies. Nor for average Joe in the industrialized world.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              Ya gotta think outside the box they have constructed for us.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              See this re: creating a new world reserve currency, nations bailing out of the dollar based currency system:


              Am concerned TPTB will start World War III rather than allowing their house of cards to come tumbling down. Why do you think there is so much saber rattling between the U.S., and Russia and China? Would venture to guess the Bank of England and the royal families of Europe aren't too thrilled about any of this either. They use the threat of use of nuclear weapons to maintain the stability of their wealth. Have come to believe the nuclear order exists more to preserve their interests than to achieve any sort of national security.

              It's not about us, it's all about them.

              • HoTaters HoTaters

                RE: BRICS (the new currency agreement):

                "These agreements are part of a series of recent efforts by both countries to reduce the dollar’s dominance in international trade as well as cut back on U.S. dollars held in reserves. Earlier this year, the BRICS countries (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa) announced a New Development Bank to circumvent the IMF."

                Everyone should know about this IMO bec. it has huge implications for everyone on earth.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Actually the NWO proponents were more sneaky than coming right out and saying redistribution of wealth would be accomplished through taxation. Carbon taxes were proposed as part of the bigger package of promoting their vision of economic and social stability. They just sort of sneaked it into the conversation and the scholarly papers.

          The Economist and journals out of Harvard had a lot of discussion on this in the 1980's and 1990's.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    How can they do it?
    How can those in Japanese government ..continue to spout the pro-nuke slogan.
    Even when they themselves are being contaminated.

    Look at the Industry Minister .a woman ..
    Daddy's girl.
    The feminist pom-poms go up.

    Oh ..she is a professional..and a wife and MOTHER…that is allowing here own children to be exposed!

    Industry minister tries to convince public on need for nuclear energy
    Sept 22 2014

    I have zero respect for this woman..
    I'm sure it will show in my rhetorical response.

  • 21stCentury 21stCentury

    …never too late to mitigate.

    Ice Walls are very useful if you have some common sense..
    building an icewall in a pot of boiling water is nuts..
    just as silly as boiling water with fission..
    icewalls make good forms for pouring cement..
    icewalls are good for adding strength to ocean breakwaters made from rapidly built gravel & loose fill.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Hi Cooter. Would you please explain how and why you think it would work? And please explain how you think it should be used.

        They ought to incorporate some peat moss into the Pykrete material. And other absorbent and adsorbent materials to accomplish chemical capture of radioactive materials.

        It would also probably be a really good idea if they sealed the Pykrete or made it impermeable by putting some sort of a membrane over it. Thin layer outside with some borosilicates in it? Heat shielding? Graphene?

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Might as well have a multi-purpose Pykrete wall. If it accomplished some neutron capture or other decontamination as part of its being there, that would be great.

          I'm off into chemical fantasy land now, not my area of expertise.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    The above pictures are only the representation/beginning of our real world symptoms concerning this ongoing growing Nuclear Black Plaque now moving exponentially around the/our globe/planet.

    This entire industry needs to be shut down as quickly as possible…worldwide! 🙂

    The future writing is now seen all over the/on current knowledge halls/walls..

  • Current readings in SD CA…

    198 CPM

    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 4:915 San Diego, CA, US

    CPM: current 198 Low 3 High 588
    Average 44, Deviation 53.1
    (CPM of Beta particles)

    Last updated: 2014-09-22 04:26:00

    Sigh… Massive cloud of very BRIGHT St90 and Barium cloud hanging to the West over the water off the south Ca coast today…

    272 CPM

    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 4:621 San Angelo, TX, US

    CPM: current 272 Low 10 High 458
    Average 101, Deviation 68.7
    (CPM of Beta particles)

    Last updated: 2014-09-22 15:13:00 GMT+0000

    163 CPM

    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 4:956 Phoenix, AZ, US

    CPM: current 163 Low 11 High 253
    Average 59, Deviation 31.9
    (CPM of Beta particles)

    Last updated: 2014-09-22 13:10:00

    These are common readings now on a daily basis in the USA. Transuranic soup anyone??

    • We Not They Finally

      I believe that readings that high have been UNUSUAL for San Diego. Used to check that regularly on the EPA graphs because we have friends there. That alone is really bad news.

      • We Not They Finally

        MANY of the EPA monitors still on give VERY scary readings for cities not previously off-scale to date. Michael Collins sums it up well in the Rad Net Monitoring section of his website,, bylisting many cities in a row so one doesn't have to look them up individually.

        It's Eastern cities now too, and places like Amarillo Texas are frightful — spiking to over 1,000 CPM.

        The increases over the last few months are genuinely frightening.

        The EPA also flatlines the readings when they are tending too high. Just a line straight across that is obviously masking whatever the real reading may be.

        One always hates to say "We cannot survive." But we cannot survive in good health with this appalling onslaught of readings.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          WNTF, totally agree about flatlining the readings. Absolutely.

          In 2012, there were some issues with the reactors in Japan. I think it was January or February. Huge spikes in radiation in the U.S. Lots of flatlining and stations not posting Beta data.

          And in October 2011 or 2012 (or both), flatlining. I can't remember which year it was, but posted here. The data for San Francisco was IDENTICAL to the Los Angeles data. They used the exact same graph for at least the Beta data. It was so glaringly obvious to me (am very visual) that gave me the creeps.

          The private contracting firm which does the monitoring for the EPA is not following the rules of ethical practice or sound reporting.

          They seem to make up their own internal rules as they go along.

          Many of us see it for what it is. Glaring data tampering and falsification.

      • There is a HUGE torus whirl on the wind map tonight frying SD CA on through to TX forcing readings up very high. They accumulate with WIPP contamination, and are forcing readings up along central TX, onto the Gulf coast.

        198 CPM

        NETC.COM © 2014
        Station ID 4:915 San Diego, CA, US

        CPM: current 198 Low 3 High 588
        Average 47, Deviation 57.3
        (CPM of Beta particles)

        Last updated: 2014-09-22 04:26:00

        272 CPM

        NETC.COM © 2014
        Station ID 4:621 San Angelo, TX, US

        CPM: current 272 Low 10 High 458
        Average 105, Deviation 72.4
        (CPM of Beta particles)

        Last updated: 2014-09-22 15:13:00 GMT+0000

  • Nick

    "Increased radioactivity has been observed within the port, in an area smaller
    than 0.3 km2. However, ongoing monitoring in the surrounding ocean area has
    detected no significant increase in radiation levels outside the port or in the open
    sea, and has shown that radiation levels in these areas remain within the standards
    of the World Health Organizations guidelines for drinking water."

    I suggest folks peruse through this document from the IAEA.

    How on earth are we to believe things are under control when a report forgets that ocean water is NOT used for drinking water?

    The verbalese will make your head spin.

    Try not to spit out your coffee when reading.

  • Nick

    "TEPCO continues to operate the groundwater bypass system. The effectiveness of this operation should
    ultimately be reflected in reducing the volume of contaminated water to be treated and stored. TEPCO
    will have to closely monitor actual operational data to confirm and quantify the effectiveness of this

    Nick's turn….

    …TEPCO will have to carefully massage actual operational data to assure the stockholders that they are competent at obfuscation of said data collection.


    • My only coffee spew was while I was unzipping the AI fly of "SocRef"…This ruthless fed BOT was in fact the wizard of oz…no in reality he was just a common DRUNK like the rest of the FEDS!

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Fact sheet, fact sheet, fact sheet. Three times in the first three sentences. Make sure you understand people. It's a FACT sheet. All factual facts.

      " (ii) Notable topics among recent updates
      (a) Pumping up groundwater by the sub‐drain system has started Reducing groundwater flowing into the Reactor buildings and the seaside areas can
      be achieved by sub‐drain water pumping. In addition to the Groundwater bypassing which is already in operation, pumping out groundwater from the point much closer to the turbine building is expected to have greater effect in reducing the amount of groundwater inflow to the buildings. "

      Does this mean they have learned how to stop the flow of the underground river running around the coria? And does it mean they have found a way to keep all that contaminated groundwater from flowing directly into the Pacific Ocean?

      Thought they had never successfully re-started the ALPS system.

      The link to the status of fuel removal from the SFP at Unit 4 does not work.

      And where does this put us in terms of Tepco's plan to dump massive amounts of irradiated water from the storage tanks, into the ocean? (With a nod and a wink from the IAEA, all just supposedly awaiting "public approval" of their plan.) And what about filtering all that nasty #%^&&#$@$# before they dump it into the ocean? Even if they get their filtering system working bef. dumping, what about all the Tritium & other nasties in the water tanks?

      Factual infarcts, methinks.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Also, big critical factor in this whole "scheme" (and I call it a scheme because it's a scheme as in scheming IMO) ….

        What are they going to do with all the nasties they're supposedly going to filter out of this water?

        So many unanswered questions, and so much obfuscation. I have to do progressive relaxation exercises after reading here. Or else I have such a knot in my knickers and a skew in me skivvies that I just want to scream.

        PPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTT! There goes my coffee.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          And as if the limit of rice contamination to 100 Bq per kilogram was a safe and acceptable limit. Grunt, there are no words.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            I really dislike being so sarcastic about all this. But the whole farce has been so amazing it has driven me to heights of sarcasm and shock I never believed possible in myself.

            Now how do I remain sane despite this insanity? Glad we're able to support each other in our rants. Sorry to rant, what they are doing, the lies are just despicable.

            The world seems to just be running amock. Social and political behavior, actions on the part of corporations and governments are happening now that would never have been allowed in the past. It's happening everywhere. No one seems to be held accountable any more.

            Sometimes it just makes me want to scream. Last Chants Teri had a great quotable saying re: the frustration thing. My Barf-o-Meter is on tilt.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        There is something that can be done. We can stop nuclear energy and stop making nuclear weapons.

        The governments are not facing reality. They are living in the past. Although people in the past lived in harmony with the earth, they did not live in harmony with each other. War is crazy. Killing other people is crazy. The animals kill and eat each other. People have a higher consciousness that knows that war is crazy and wrong. No higher power would ever require any killing whatsoever. People have a higher consciousness when they don't kill animals, but just eat vegan and raw. There are plenty of resources if people eat vegan and raw. People would have a higher consciousness if they stopped raping the earth. The earth is our sacred gift and should not be exploited for profit.

        It looked so stupid when people killed the buffalo for the hides, and then there were no more buffalo. Among other factors, over fishing in the ocean has helped to destroy the ecology of the ocean. People don't need fish to eat anyway or any animals to eat.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          What Is Life Wisdom in the Raw or "Raw-wisdom?

          “RAW-WISDOM is a revolutionary view the essence of nature – shifting from the mechanical, machine-like or dead to a oppositely life-centered understanding and in order to turnaround our major planetary ecological crises. We offer words of wisdom about the growing chemical and genetic pollution and overall destruction of planet Earth.

          “In modern times we’ve invented at least 4 million chemicals (as reported in scientific literature), most all in the last 100 years, including 150,000 drugs, 100,000 chemicals in commercial production, 10,000 in food processing and at least 1000 toxic ones lodging deeply in our cells (even in mothers’ placenta for the unborn). Cancers logically follow, but doctors rarely advocate organics and prefer prescribing drugs. Now 2/3rds of Americans annually take drugs and 2/3rds remain victims of long-term illnesses. Supposedly the drugs ‘scientifically’ control conditions but statistics belie this. They show major illnesses persist and just get labeled as ‘chronic.’ Also genetic engineering is rapidly dominating staples in just a few decades. These two huge trends are happening primarily because a very, very powerful seed idea was planted in the 17th century. Now 400 years later this is bearing crops (like global pollution).
          “This one seed idea should have faced huge skepticism yet it was universally accepted. Even naturopaths tend to take in what is so cogently taught in modern education and…

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            “This one seed idea should have faced huge skepticism yet it was universally accepted. Even naturopaths tend to take in what is so cogently taught in modern education and by mass media. This refers to the root belief that nature is surely but a math-based, mechanical/atomic enterprise. Unfortunately just this one single and central belief, having universal applications, can causally create planetary ills.
            Our surrounding world reflects the immense loss of wisdom. The absolutely GREAT NEWS is all of this is reversible by a simple mind change, and to a life-centered vision where we now redraw out of nature what is life rather than death and create what Gabriel Cousens calls a ‘culture of life.’,,,”

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              MECHANISM. The mechanical view of the universe. The concept the universe can be broken down into parts understood by "specialists."

              The loss of awareness of the interconnectedness of everything, the universe, the very web of life.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                +100000000000. I'm starting to learn Chinese. The world is too burdensome for me. There is a free online course at And there are lots of free resources to learn Chinese online.

                I'm going to believe that there will be a future, and that learning Chinese will help with that future. I find it calming to learn a language. Also, I love calligraphy. They show you how to make every syllable.


                And you can hear every syllable pronounced in the dictionary. The class on just give the spelling in Roman characters. But you can use Google translate to get the Chinese characters, and then put each character into the Chinese dictionary, or individual words into the dictionary.


                I'm going to look up a recipe online for dehydrating raw potatoes, and then when you want to eat them, you can rehydrate them.

              • unincredulous unincredulous

                True. Reminds me of Dana talking to that guy at Bamford the other day. The guy was telling Dana about the starfish; how one species can be many colors. He was telling Dana about professional research shows no major changes in the last 4 years.

                The interconnected property would say that Dana gets in boat, which is connected to the sea, and looks with his eyes. His eyes are connected to his hands, and his camera, and his memory of first hand observation.

                The guy at the desk is connected to his computer, and what others are telling him.

                Who am I going to believe? Dana, of course, with all of his defects academically. With all his cussing, of course, he is after all a seaman. Cussing actually lends credibility!

                Dana: "I'll get out of your way…" Translation: I can't stand this place anymore."

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          He he. "There is something that can be done. We can stop nuclear energy and stop making nuclear weapons."

          That proves what that guy was saying just the other day. You ARE a shill for the nuclear industry. We need more shills like you!

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            I was responding to this article:
            which says that the governments are doing nothing because there is nothing that can be done.

            My answer is that many people are doing something and whole countries are refusing to allow nuclear energy and weapons in their borders. And some state in the US have also said NO to nuclear. Building more nuclear weapons is the craziest thing anyone can do. You can't use the weapons and they are just sitting waiting for a terrorist attack.

            The government needs to spend its money on saving the land and water and air. Banning GMOs which other countries have already done, refusing to allow any more uranium mining or creating more atomic waste, refusing to allow depleted uranium for fracking (talking about a few order higher of stupidity) are the first steps.

            The US should spend its money on solar, wind, and geothermal, and organic farming, and stop irradiating foods.

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              TYPO: some states like Colorado and Iowa have refused new atomic energy death traps and Colorado got Rocky Flats shut down. Kansas City is crazy to allow a plutonium factory inside its state's borders.

  • Gasser Gasser

    Stephen Wolf; The Pusher Man

    Go here first for the gist


    You know I've burned a lot of generator gas

    O' Lord, I've paid a lot of Coal energy bill's

    But I never touched nothin'

    That my wallet couldn't kill

You know, I've seen a lot of people walkin' ‘round
With Plutonium tombstones in their eyes
But the Nuclear Shill pusher don't care
Ah, if you live or if you die

    God damn, the Nuclear Shill Pusher's 

    God damn, I say the Uranium Pusher’s
I said God damn, God damn
    The NRC Pusher man

    You know the Wind and Solar dealer, these dealer's are men
With natural power being none polluting they send
Oh but the IAEA Nuclear pusher's are monster's

    Good God, their not natural men

The natural power dealer for a nickel
Lord, will sell you lots of sweet electricity dreams
Ah, but the Nuclear pusher ruin your body

    Lord, he'll leave your, he'll leave your Cesium mind to scream

    God damn, the Nuclear Pusher’s
God damn, God damn the Uranium Pusher’s
I said God damn, God,
    God damn the NRC Pusher man

    Well, now if I were a wiser president of this land

    You know, I'd declare total war on The Nuclear Pusher man
I'd haul their ass's to the Hague , and I'd jail them if they try run
Yes I'd expose'em on and Twitter, not for fun

    God damn The NRC Nuclear Pusher's

    God damn The TEPCO Pusher's

    I said God damn,

  • Bungalow Phil Bungalow Phil

    The word water I guess qualifies this post as on topic. So the LaRouche minions hard at work to solve CA water problems, touting the Russian plan to desalinate sea water with nuclur energy. Putting their coconuts together they envision 100's of nuclur plants chugging away electrifying and turbocharging desal plants across the Golden State blissfully ignorant they are of the need for fuel and the disposal thereof. The pivitol centerpiece of their plan of course is to impeach Obama first for whatever reason he always seems to be the roadblock to successful implementation of their hairbrained schemes to save the world and prop up China as the defacto rulers of the world. Look at China, do it like China, that is the mantra of the LaRouche PAC. Always critical and never at a loss for solutions yet never quite resourceful enough to engage critical thinking that include present demonstrable impediments, likely life ending forces that they fail to take into account. Nary a mention of geoengineering or reference to the mountains of evidence that it is affecting rainfall patterns nor any mention of the ongoing radionuclide releases by Fukushima. No it's national employment program. The nation would be reinvented, industry revitalized by the campaign to build atomic desalination plants from Baja to Eureka all of course powered by MOX fuel, since there is a shortage of the easy slow uranium. But to hell with that minor bump. If the plan were implemented today we…

  • Bungalow Phil Bungalow Phil

    (cont.) would be well on our way to a new pardigm. One which of course would put The PAC at the forefront of a new political powerbase. We can not argue against wise management of dwindling resources yet on the other hand we can not even consider such a reckless and ill conceived plan such as NPP for water desalination. Click the link to listen to Ruckert and Baker discuss Vernadsky and their vision of a utopian world.

    September 20 Show: Los Angeles LaRouche PAC organizer Patrick Ruckert, on “The Vernadsky Solution to the California Water Crisis.” Hosted by Marcia Merry Baker.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    If Tepco somehow gained powers to change the past, like in the Movie, "The Butterfly Effect," they would go back and change the landscaping, or the fonts they use. They are a bright bunch.

  • razzz razzz

    Wasn't to long ago that I was glad that, I think it was Texas, was going to build some nuke plants and maybe another State. More happy that the US would be less dependent on foreign oil than actual nukes being built, cause it was pre-Fukus and I was still ignorant about nukes and nuke wastes. Only because I was told or read that life is wonderful, don't worry about nukes or my interest wasn't piqued. Was a bit 'flummoxed' about the Yucca Mountain nuke waste dump but I never read in depth about it at the time. I understood the water tables and quake concerns but not the actual nuke waste long term nightmares.

    Then in a blink of an eye, fracking renders the US as the world's major oil producer to allay my fears of being blackmailed over oil. Plus Fukus happens to close to home and the rest is history.

    Existing nuke waste is best kept in a pool and maintained by whoever created it. Burying it is not the answer. Dumping it in the world's oceans is the loser's way out (Russia, US, UK, Japan, etc.) but it is not contained and to hard to monitor.

    Nuke anything is a socialist agenda, it is the only way governments can afford it, using taxpayers monies until taxpayers run out of money. Chernobyl-Old Russia is a prime example. Japan will be next.

    In 1976 Prime Minister Thatcher said, "…and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them." She should…

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    The nuclear industry appears to be the most successful anti-nuclear "movement" in history. When Larry, Moe, and Curly blew up in Japan…

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    Sign at Futaba town (with full text an appeal for help, see person standing at sign with placard, at link below):

  • SadieDog

    16,000 rally in Japan to protest restart of nuclear plants…

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