West Coast Scientists: Many animals on sea floor looking sick or dead — “Everything’s dying… Dead, dead, dead, and dead” — Experts investigate what’s killing sea urchins and cucumbers in Pacific Northwest — “Seeing things never previously observed” (PHOTOS)

Published: November 18th, 2014 at 12:59 pm ET
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National Geographic, Nov 17, 2014 (emphasis added): Urchins and cucumbers seemed to have escaped the ill effects of the virus until now. But in recent weeks, reports have started to come in that they too are dying along beaches in the Pacific Northwest, Hewson said… [He and his team are] studying the urchins and sea cucumbers that are already dying to see if the same killer is responsible.

Dr. Bill Bushing, kelp forest ecologist, Nov 2, 2014: I’ve mentioned before that [in Southern California] our starfish and sea urchins have been dying… I’ve recently seen sea cucumbers that appear to be diseased as well… I’ve also observed strangely colored sea hares (big shell-less snails) in the park. The red algae they normally eat seems to have died out… Divers also report seeing far fewer of the sea hares this year.

Ronald L. Shimek, PhD, marine biologist, Nov 10, 2014: Jan Kocian, diving photographer extraordinare… has been actively surveying several marine subtidal areas in northern Puget Sound for some time… [During a Sept. 18] dive… on Whidbey Island, Washington… he started seeing things he had never previously observed.… there were many animals lying exposed on the sandy sea floor, looking limp, sick or dead. Red sea cucumbers were flaccid and dead… Aleutian Moon snails were in odd postures… pink/yellow worms [were] another rare or unusual sight…. Nuttall’s cockles were on the sediment surface with their siphons out, instead of being buried… 22nd September, the area containing dying animals was not only still present it was spreading; whatever seemed to be the cause was still doing its dirty work… 25th September [many] red sea cucumbers… were lying fully exposed, and apparently dead… 29th of September… A few living Cucumaria were acting oddly, not quite dead, but just slightly responsive to touch… Numerous green sea urchins were found with their spines in abnormal postures, definitely not looking healthy… The full extent of the dead area, and the reason for the mortality, remain indeterminate.

Captions to photos taken by diver Jan Kocian: (3) Death of the sea urchins; (4) [Red sea cucumber] Cucumaria miniata dying and decomposing [alt text on photo: "Everything's dying"]; (5) Dead, dead, dead, and dead – or dying

See all of the published photos from the dive surveys here

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359 comments to West Coast Scientists: Many animals on sea floor looking sick or dead — “Everything’s dying… Dead, dead, dead, and dead” — Experts investigate what’s killing sea urchins and cucumbers in Pacific Northwest — “Seeing things never previously observed” (PHOTOS)

  • Bill Duff

    Trolling 4 Trolls – Vox Dei blather resembles Leslie Corrice the moron.

    Leslie Corrice at his Hiroshima Syndrome Blog is about as bad as it gets, in the troll world. http://www.hiroshimasyndrome.com/

    Hormesis, Lying, Distortions, Ignorance and CONSTANT attacks on rational discussions. Leslie Corrice moves from blog to blog. He disrupts every thread he can find.

    Leslie occupies the bottom hog cage at the feedlot. IMHPO


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  • DumbWaterBoilers

    NEW from Dr. Karl Grossman >>

    "Recent issues demonstrate risks of nuclear power in space"

    "The recent crash of Virgin Galactic’s SpaceShipTwo and explosion on launch three days earlier of an Antares rocket further underline the dangers of inserting nuclear material in the always perilous space flight equation—as the U.S. and Russia still plan."

    http://enformable.com/2014/11/recent-issues-demonstrate-risks-nuclear-power-space/


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  • DumbWaterBoilers

    "French Nuclear Giant Areva Says Future Is Uncertain, Prompting a Sell-Off"

    "Areva, the French nuclear technology giant, warned of an uncertain outlook for its business amid delays to important projects and sluggishness in the global atomic energy sector, sending its stock tumbling on Wednesday."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/20/business/international/french-nuclear-giant-areva-says-future-is-uncertain-prompting-a-sell-off.html

    Meanwhile…

    "France failing to keep up with nuclear reactor maintenance"

    http://enformable.com/2014/09/france-failing-keep-nuclear-reactor-maintenance/


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    DWB, we can't shut down this industry down fast enough…bam.. they must go and right now!

    Simply turn the switch off on all operations worldwide and we must do this now!

    If we don't they will turn the entire world into a cesspool of dying, mutating, sick, cancer ridden, organisms! :(


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  • Lovium Lovium

    Can someone explain to me why the testing on the west coast usa is not conclusive. if trace amounts of cesium are present does that mean that the other more toxic "iums" are also negligible? any proof that the testing going on is erroneous or shady? I am trying to explain to my friends and family in california that they are at risk eating fish and swimming in sea, among other things, but everyone reads the stories that say things are safe and i look like a conspiracy theorist. Please help me strengthen my case with some hard facts…Thanks


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Lovium, the psychology of humans is that beliefs are not easily altered by facts. And facts themselves hard to come by. Peer review papers are the only accepted standard for "truth" in science, but unfortunately cant be relied on.

      the most downloaded document of all time on PLoS, the Public Library of Medicine’s peer-reviewed, open access journal, is the essay “Why Most Published Research Findings are False”.John P. A Ioannidis explains in detail how “It can be proven that most claimed research findings are false.”

      So thats the first problem; who are you going to believe? Apparently no "official" source because;

      According to the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, “No U.S. government or international agency is monitoring the spread of low levels of radiation from Fukushima along the West Coast of North America and around the Hawaiian Islands.”

      Which begs the question, if they arent testing how do they know its low level?

      http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/308269/


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  • Sickputer

    Re: BD mentions idiot savant L.

    SP: Yes, Leslie Corrice is a doddering triple dipper nucleoape/educator/something else retiree (and brags about it) with a love for all things nuclear.

    Corrice: "By the same token, we would have to eat 100 grams (about 4 ounces) of reactor Cesium-contaminated food, at Japan’s 100 Bq/kg limit, every day for a year to reach its regulatory limit in Japan, which is several times more restrictive than the rest of the world."

    http://www.hiroshimasyndrome.com/fukushima-and-cesium.html

    SP: Certainly a light diet even for a slim Japanese citizen. :-)

    Of course there might be another hundred long-lived artificial radioactive nuclear waste in the food and water, but Leslie conveniently omits any mention of other dangers. And he loves his banana comparison like any true nucleoape. He's in good company with the old nuclear loonie Don Luckey.

    Old nuclear propagandists do succumb eventually to cancer just like us all. No luggage racks on a hearse.

    RIP Bernie Cohen et all.


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    • Even if this food stays under the legal maximum of 100 in Japan or 1,200 in the US, children Bioconcentrate even small amounts of cesium until they reach lethal levels.

      The pro nuclear apologists conveniently ignore this basic fact.

      They are out to poison and destroy the world, in order to 'save' it with nuclear energy.


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  • DumbWaterBoilers

    How many of you who responded over-and-over to trolls took a minute to sign this petition?

    "PROTECT CHILDREN FROM RADIATION! Extend comment deadline."

    "The US Nuclear Regulatory Commission (USNRC) is rewriting its radiation regulations using documents that are not open to the public. Industry, however, has access to these documents. This goes against open and democratic principles of governance.

    These potential regulations will affect workers and public, including vulnerable children.

    NRC must turn over the documents and extend the comment deadline, giving us the resources and time needed to comment properly."

    Sign here:
    https://www.change.org/p/u-s-nuclear-regulatory-commission-protect-children-from-radiation-extend-comment-deadline

    >>>>>>>>>>>and from "Cooter" >>>

    and COMMENT HERE:

    "NRC Website for comments to NRC-2009-0279;
    http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;D=NRC-2009-0279

    From this page click on "View all documents and comments in this Docket" tab at the top in blue. This directs you to;

    http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketBrowser;rpp=25;po=0;D=NRC-2009-0279

    There are 77 results with only 5 comment boxes open throughout the file. All five "open comment" have a deadline of Nov. 24, 2014"


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Lovium, I guess when they find any radiation contamination from Fukushima anywhere you can expect to find the other isotopes to be lingering around the area too. The problem with this type of poison and pollution is, that you can't see it or taste it or smell it, so no one has a clue where it is.

    The poison dispersion is so wide and far that it would be impossible to know what is negatively affected or where it even is.

    It could be in your soda, food, fish, and in the water and the air you breath. Anywhere! It can also be found in recycled items that you may buy or even in materials that are used to produce items for sale and consumption. The list is endless and they have been getting away with this behavior for the past 70 years.

    It makes sense too avoid and stay far away from the source dispersion points which would be downwind or down current from any of these Nuclear disaster events. Fukushima poisons made a beeline directly for the US coast line and is here and there is no way any of us in the US can avoid it.

    This is the really bad news about Nuclear Radiation Contamination, since it knows no borders once released into our interconnected ecosystems and environment. :(

    It's purely a numbers game now and we are lucky the Earth is covered by 70% water but the oceans are getting hammered with radiation contamination right now. :(


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  • Nick

    Lovium…

    The only sanity that I have obtained over the decades in understanding the effects of human-made radiation, is the concept of TATAL.

    Toxic At The Atomic Level.

    It is a misnomer to "raise" limits and call them "safe."

    ONE atom that is dispersing it's wayward energies is toxic to the environment.

    Then there is the pinball effect, as an ionizing source adds it's electrons (or neutrons… or protons…depends on the energy emitted gamma/beta/alpha) to other atoms, and so on.

    The reason radiation is invisible is because atoms are SMALL.

    I will go to my grave espousing TATAL.

    Sure, some other industrial toxins are also basically TATAL (like glyphosphate probably) but none come close to the slew of crap spewing 24/7 from EVERY nuclear fission pile everywhere and (now) everywhen.


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  • Sol Man

    In other news, will sections of this forest die when the vapors reach the root systems of the trees? Watch closely to see.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/18/fracking-george-washington-forest_n_6175632.html?ir=Green


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  • irhologram

    Quote Vox Dei: "I have committed no crime. Actually…you have, and you're are also a civil lawsuit waiting to happen.

    VD: Your personal attack on Stock was much more than the gaytheist label. Several paragraphs were the legal definition of actionable pornography. I wrote the administrator that not scrubbing that post left him/her vulnerable to lawsuit. I will not restate your obscene content here, but using nuclear terms, You clearly exceeded protected free speech, appealing only to pruient interest. It was patently offensive, and lacked any artistic or scientific value…a poster child definition of pornographic (unprotected) speech. Stock would clearly have a case for defamation and all of us here have a case against pornography.

    You think the Internet is immune? Wrong.

    http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2014/10/can-you-sue-anonymous-internet-trolls.html

    http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/defamation-law-made-simple-29718.html

    Vox Dei has not only made libelous, pornographic comments, he has since rejoiced 10+ times that he has personally drummed out a significant contributor to this forum.

    http://www.wisegeek.org/what-are-internet-harassment-laws.htm

    Liable, Porn, Stalking = Viable lawsuit.


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    • There are also laws with felony level jail terms and fines for violating TOS.. Terms of Service

      Terms of Service violations can and are handled by the US government prosecutors. They have gone after violations before and will again.


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        while VoxDei is a major irritant, he/she/it is the least of our problems. Vox at least is a reminder of the mind of the nuclear sect. Types like VD are in control…a tragic story for a planet in big trouble. You could ban VoxDei, but we cant ban the tax subsidized, government pushed, military supported, mafia run nuclear cartel. They are above the law


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        • Reign In Corporate Power On Local Community Level Via Community Rights Movement
          http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2014/11/reign-in-corporate-power-on-local.html

          Never give up.

          There is a way to win this..


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        • irhologram

          Respectfully, CodeShutDown, I disagree. Forum sliding has castrated many bullish efforts here…as they are lost on Page 1 to box after box of meaningless chatter spilling into Page 2, although many here advocate posting strong links that refute unsupported, pro-nuke, insulting, pornographic, flaming, defamatory, stalking, derailing posts… If one has no link to add or personal experience to relate, it has repeatedly been asked: please don't contribute to what is clearly forum sliding. But you see? Those admonishons from Dosdos and others…fall on deaf ears.

          Forum sliding and derailing the topic are very sound reasons why this is important. We got the topic of religion quieted because of its derailing impact. Is whatever topic that is under discussion less important to preserve?


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          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            irhologram, I know your frustration. ENEnews is not what we want it to be…but it is what it is. Not just cliche; I came here looking for facts and answers. Fukushima, how bad is it? I could hardly stand reading through 100 and 1 little opinion pieces and cutesy things to find an answer. Thats even without trolls. For those without the time and inclination, seeking information in all these blogger comments is…its not going to happen. Its a different thing…a blogger hangout. Full of well wishers, poets and philosophers with a few lawyers and scientific types sprinkled in.

            I wouldnt mind ousting Vox on the basis of irritation without content value. But then more of the same will keep popping up. In fact the nuclear cartel is full to the brim with that kind…we are veritably swimming in a stinky stew of psychos who are detached from the real world. So my take is that an inordinate amount of energy is wasted worrying about this one


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            • irhologram

              Code
              1) I am not frustrated. I am suggesting Vox has crossed a line never crossed in this blog before in the three years I've been monitoring. It may be useful to you to go back and look at the post in question. That post and the poster's claims of driving a heritage contributor away are outside protections of the laws of this country, not just this blog.
              2) I'm not sure you've noticed…and you appear not to have…but the climate here is much more "business at hand" and much less "chit chat." The blog is evolving and bearing fruit in almost every post.
              3) When we start loosing key players because they are disgusted by nonenforcement of terms of service, but further, when a poster here crosses the line of all decency in that one post…the line in the sand must be drawn. If it isn't, what do you think will happen next? For one thing, I will leave. And others will leave.

              The post in question wasn't just obscene. It was pruient and the aim was admitted stalking to target and cull our herd of posters…starting with one of the most apt. That is not an "irritant." It is a degree of malevolence that's not just disruptive, and not just a community-buster. It's illegal


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            • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

              CodeShutdown…VD was a rat, like Soccer Ref and the others, but isn't the "Report Comment" button on the bottom of each post the "rat trap"?

              And isn't the trap being inspected every night?

              It's silly to just let these rats just $hit all over.


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  • VyseLegendaire VyseLegendaire

    So maybe Dana Durnforn isn't such a quack after all? Well see who has the last laugh you damn nuclear shills.


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  • irhologram

    Received in my e-mail:
    Comment deadline looms: Tell EPA to keep nuclear out of Clean Power Plan

    Organizations: Sign-on to letter to EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy

    Individuals: Submit comments, reach out to everyone (that's what the nuclear industry is doing….)

    November 19, 2014

    Dear Friends,

    The December 2 comment deadline for the EPA's proposed Clean Power Plan is looming; it's time for our last, best effort to fill the EPA's inboxes with comments in support of the agency's plan–against substantial Congressional and industry opposition–to reduce carbon emissions, but strongly against EPA's proposal to support nuclear power in doing so.

    Yesterday, several DC clean energy groups, in a meeting arranged by NIRS' Executive Director Tim Judson, met with top EPA officials to press the latter point. The meeting went very well; the EPA officials were open to our arguments and asked for follow-up information.

    But that doesn't necessarily mean they'll change their current proposal. They need to know removing support for nuclear has popular support. And that's why it's so important that as many comments as possible are submitted to the agency before December 2nd.

    It's doubly important since the nuclear industry is encouraging its employees and supporters to comment for more nuclear support. For example, the New York Times called us a few days ago and told us that the American Nuclear Society has begun an online campaign for its members to…


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  • irhologram

    …submit comments.

    Two months ago, we marched in massive numbers in the streets of New York City for a nuclear-free, carbon-free energy future. Now it's time to bring those numbers to a different venue.

    We must make our voices heard as loudly as possible, in the largest possible numbers.

    Individuals: Our comment page to the EPA is here. Please send in your comments–it's fast and easy, and if you want you can edit the comments to reflect your own concerns. And please share the action page with your friends and colleagues by e-mail and on your social networks. You can also share this letter (and all NIRS Alerts) from this page. The greatest possible outreach is needed over these next two weeks.

    Organizations: We have prepared a new comment letter to EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy. You can read the letter here. Please do not distribute (except to other organizations for sign-on) or publicize the letter until it is sent on December 2nd.

    We ask every organization, everywhere in the world, that agrees with us that nuclear power must be removed from the Clean Power Plan to sign on to this letter.

    Please sign on by midnight, November 30 by e-mailing your name, title, organization name, city and state (country if outside the U.S.) to me at nirsnet@nirs.org. Please, organizations only! Individuals should comment here.

    I can't emphasize it enough: your participation is critical.


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  • irhologram

    Cont. Over the next year or so, the states will draw up plans to implement these new regulations, once finalized. These "State Implementation Plans" will provide a real opportunity to install policies that will encourage a nuclear-free, carbon-free energy system. But that task will be made much more difficult, and the battles in the states made much more costly and contentious, if nuclear power is included in those final rules.

    Your voice matters.

    Thanks for all you do,

    Michael Mariotte
    President
    Nuclear Information and Resource Service
    http://www.nirs.org
    nirsnet@nirs.org

    Stay Informed:

    NIRS on the web: http://www.nirs.org

    GreenWorld: (NIRS' daily blog chronicling nuclear issues and the transition to a nuclear-free, carbon-free energy system) http://www.safeenergy.org

    NIRS on Facebook:

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nuclear-Information-and-Resource-Service/26490791479?sk=wall&filter=12<

    http://www.facebook.com/nonukesnirs

    NIRS on Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/nirsnet


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    • Thanks irhologram! A very important activism. 2 ways to comment, as an organization or individual. I added my personal comment at the top of the form. I hope many of you will too. It's easy. Felt Sooo good to do it. :)

      –> I agree with all that's written in this submission and here's my personal comment: Born in 1942 on the Pacific coast, the horror of Hanford has permeated my whole life, particularly now that NO GUARANTEED SAFE PLACE EXISTS to safely store ANY nuclear leftovers globally.
      I'm not a newcomer to how profiteering, politics and corporate lobbying work and have certainly witnessed the final futility of dealing with radioactive waste since both WIPP and the "re-proposed" Yucca Mt. site had already been deemed geologically unstable by expert consultants who stated their warnings.
      We may have passed the point of no return as the health of people and all of Earth's life forms suffer damages from increasing genetic mutations and compromised immune systems. The meltdowns at Fukushima added critical unknowable amounts of damaging man made radioactivity to the already badly polluted oceans and atmosphere.
      I can only wonder why anyone knowing that nuclear power is the most unclean, most expensive and most uncontrollable energy form would dare to promote it's further use. What a terrible legacy for the next generations to inherit!
      Humans may not survive at all as reproduction of our species grinds to an agonizing halt. Please be accountable when you….


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  • Marushka Marushka

    “Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment"
    by Alexey Yablokov, Vasily Nesterenko and Alexey Nesterenko
    NY Academy of Sciences, Volume 1181, 2009.
    5,000 Slavic language studies reviews, over 1,400 cited.
    http://www.strahlentelex.de/Yablokov_Chernobyl_book.pdf
    hard copy now available at Greko Printing P:734.453.0341;
    email:orders@grekoprinting.com

    ** ECRR = European Committee on Radiation Risk
    Dr. Chris Busby, Scientific Secretary wrote Introduction.
    book, 2006, was co-edited with Dr. Alexey Yablokov
    “ECRR Chernobyl: 20 Years On”
    the book!! http://life-upgrade.com/DATA/chernobylebook.pdf 
    Spanish http://ciaramc.org/ciar/boletines/cr_bol226.htm


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    • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

      Marushka…thank you for the link to Yablokov's work on Chernobyl.

      I've been looking for that for awhile now.

      This caught my attention:

      "Soon after the catastrophe, studies observed
      activation of retroviruses (Kavsan
      et al., 1992)."


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  • Marushka Marushka

    "11. Chernobyl’s Radioactive Impact on Microbial Biota

    Alexey V. Yablokov

    Of the few microorganisms that have been studied, all underwent rapid changes in the areas heavily contaminated by Chernobyl. Organisms such as tuberculosis bacilli; hepatitis, herpes, and tobacco mosaic viruses; cytomegalovirus; and soil micromycetes and bacteria were activated in various ways.

    The ultimate long-term consequences for the Chernobyl microbiologic biota may be worse than what we know today. Compared to humans and other mammals, the profound changes that take place among these small live organisms with rapid reproductive turnover do not bode well for the health and survival of other species. " and more
    Section 11 of Chapter 3

    “Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment"
    by Alexey Yablokov, Vasily Nesterenko and Alexey Nesterenko
    NY Academy of Sciences, Volume 1181, 2009.
    5,000 Slavic language studies reviews, over 1,400 cited.
    http://www.strahlentelex.de/Yablokov_Chernobyl_book.pdf
    hard copy now available at Greko Printing P:734.453.0341;
    email:orders@grekoprinting.com


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  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    Bad actors include these:

    Phosphorus 32, Calcium 45, Iodine 131, Iron 55, Bismuth 210, Plutonium 239, Cerium 144, Strontium 89, and Cesium 137.


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Makes Dana look like a nuclear apologist, this guy.


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  • JonTo2

    Fukushima ramifications encompass thousands (and counting) of humans that got killed in the US. The reality is that practically all nations dedicated to nuclear power energy, nuclear weaponry, and medical x-rays, (eg France, US, Japan, or Russia) have been ignoring, disregarding, and actively hiding the real truth about the harm and toxicity of ionizing radiation for over half a century – discussed in "The Mammogram Myth" by Rolf Hefti ( more at <a href="http://www.supplements-and-health.com/mammograms.html&quot; title="The Mammogram Controversy"> ).

    This corrupt corporate cartel and its ally, the mainstream media, perform great propaganda work in hiding most of the cartel's incited damage from widespread public view, and instead they've been spreading quacked up distortions and lies about the Fukushima disaster and other atrocities of theirs.


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  • Marcie

    Okay, let me get this straight. Sea creatures are dying in huge numbers….and scientists are pretending they don't know what the problem is. Gee, all the animals are dying…in the ocean…where tons of radioactive water is gushing.. day after day….for 3 1/2 years….what could be wrong? They think it's a VIRUS??? OMG…my brain feels like it's going to explode. Even I know that when you see words and phrases like: nuclear disaster, criticality, and uncontained nuclear fission, things are not going well. This stuff DESTROYS everything it touches. And they can't imagine what's wrong with all the sea creatures? Next it's going to be us.


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  • JonTo2

    Fukushima ramifications encompass thousands (and counting) of humans that got killed in the US. The reality is that practically all nations dedicated to nuclear power energy, nuclear weaponry, and medical x-rays, (eg France, US, Japan, or Russia) have been ignoring, disregarding, and actively hiding the real truth about the harm and toxicity of ionizing radiation for over half a century – discussed in "The Mammogram Myth" by Rolf Hefti ( more at http://www.supplements-and-health.com/mammograms.html ).

    This corrupt corporate cartel and its ally, the mainstream media, perform great propaganda work in hiding most of the cartel's incited damage from widespread public view, and instead they've been spreading quacked up distortions and lies about the Fukushima disaster and other atrocities of theirs.


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  • Enenews have long discussed RAIDS: Radiation Acquired Immune Depression Syndrome

    I did a little research and its been known for over 60 years that radiation exposure suppresses immune function, increasing susceptibility to bacteria and viruses, among other adverse radiation health effects:

    http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/2014/11/bees-and-starfish-same-story-for.html

    This is hardly news for most of us here. What I want to emphasize is that very few people are talking about it to the mainstream media and government agencies, such as the EPA, have eyes closed tight. EPA claims it doesn't "do salt water."


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  • rogerthat

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/report-nuclear-testing-remnants-remain-radioactive

    Posted November 19, 2014 – 11:17pm
    Report: Nuclear testing remnants remain radioactive
    By KEITH ROGERS
    LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
    Radioactive remnants from decades of nuclear bomb tests remain for the most part in the areas where the devices were detonated below ground at the Nevada National Security Site.

    That was the upshot of the annual environmental monitoring report presented Wednesday night by Department of Energy staff and contractors to a citizens panel known as the Nevada Site Specific Advisory Board…

    Knapp and other scientists discussed the 270-page monitoring report outside the meeting at the National Atomic Testing Museum. They said it will be a very long time before tritium, the primary isotope they are tracking, travels through groundwater layers and reaches any offsite water supply wells. By then, tritium will have decayed to levels considered well within the safe drinking water standard.

    Models for one area of concern, Frenchman Flat, show radioactive contaminants traveling so slowly in groundwater that “tritium will be gone” before it could reach any wells in Amargosa Valley, said Department of Energy geologist Bill Wilborn.

    “The velocity in that part of the basin is so slow, a meter per year or so or a kilometer in 1,000 years” that tritium with a half-life of 12.3 years will have decayed to safe levels, he said. A half-life is the time it…


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    • rogerthat

      … takes for the radioactivity in substance to decay to half of its initial value.

      Wilborn said Frenchman Flat “is probably four or five kilometers from Mercury,” the government town at the test site, “and it’s even farther to community wells in Amargosa Valley.”

      The report covers data from 84 monitoring wells both on and off the Rhode Island-size site, formerly known as the Nevada Test Site, 65 miles northwest of Las Vegas. The network is sampled to detect radioactive contamination from 828 below-ground nuclear tests that government scientists conducted until full-scale nuclear tests were curtailed in 1992. Most of the early tests, 100 in all, were conducted above ground, beginning with the first one at the Nevada site in 1951.

      A 1963 treaty restricted nuclear tests to shafts or tunnel cavities below ground. It was during this period in the early 1960s until testing ended in 1992 that hundreds of nuclear devices were set off at depths ranging from 90 to 4,800 feet below the surface. About one-third of those blasts occurred in, near or below the water table.

      A 1963 treaty restricted nuclear tests to shafts or tunnel cavities below ground. It was during this period in the early 1960s until testing ended in 1992 that hundreds of nuclear devices were set off at depths ranging from 90 to 4,800 feet below the surface. About one-third of those blasts occurred in, near or below the water table.

      Tritium contamination in groundwater was first detected off site in 2009…


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      • rogerthat

        near where two nuclear tests — the 1968 Benham and 1975 Tybo tests — were conducted in Pahute Mesa in the site’s northwest corner.

        Scientists have predicted it will take roughly 240 years for tritium-laced water from the Benham and Tybo tests to travel another 14 miles to the nearest public water source. By then it will have decayed to non-detectable levels.

        Wilborn has said the contamination plume probably won’t reach Beatty, 120 miles northwest of Las Vegas. Instead, perhaps hundreds or 1,000 years, in his estimate, it will head between Beatty and Yucca Mountain, where the Department of Energy had planned to dispose of the nation’s spent nuclear fuel.

        The Obama administration has starved the Yucca Mountain Project of funding but a federal court last year ordered the Nuclear Regulatory Commission staff to complete safety evaluations and proceed with licensing using what little funding remains.

        Contact Keith Rogers at krogers@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0308. Find him on Twitter: @KeithRogers2.


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    EPA says fire won't spread radioactive material via air

    By Jacob Barker jbarker@post-dispatch.com > 314-340-829111

    The subsurface fire at Bridgeton Landfill has raised a big question since it was discovered four years ago: What happens if it comes into contact with radioactive waste dumped nearby?

    Many worry that the underground chemical reaction heating up the Bridgeton Landfill could spread to adjacent West Lake Landfill, where radioactive waste from nuclear weapons production was illegally dumped 40 years ago.

    The Environmental Protection Agency, which is charged with deciding how to clean up or isolate the radioactive waste, has offered almost no guidance on what sort of risk that would pose to the public.

    But a recent letter from the EPA’s top official in the region, obtained by the Post-Dispatch, indicates the agency does not believe the radioactive waste would be released with any gases emanating from the site.

    The EPA also does not believe the underground chemical reaction in the Bridgeton Landfill is moving toward the adjacent West Lake Landfill, according to the letter from Karl Brooks, administrator of EPA Region 7, to Lois Gibbs, head of the Center for Health, Environment and Justice, a Washington-based environmental group.

    That assessment appears to differ from one from the state agency overseeing the Bridgeton Landfill, the Missouri Department of Natural Resources. The DNR consultant has said radioactive material could be spread through…


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    http://www.globalresearch.ca/lake-huron-radioactive-waste-dump-proposal-should-be-rejected/5415120

    Lake Huron Radioactive Waste Dump Proposal Should be Rejected

    By John LaForge
    Global Research, November 20, 2014
    Counter Punch

    Maybe vampire fables are just metaphors for bad ideas that are hard to kill.

    The proposed Deep Geological Repository for radioactive waste being considered by Canada’s Joint Review Panel is such a bad idea that even pro-nuclear Republican US senators like Illinois’ Mark Kirk are against it. Still, it’s not dead yet.

    The Southgate Michigan News-Herald reported last Sept. that

    “some of the waste is highly radioactive and much of it will remain toxic for more than 100,000 years. The proposed site is less than a mile inland from the shore of Lake Huron and about 440 yards below the lake level. It is approximately 120 miles upstream from the main drinking water intakes for southeastern Michigan.”

    The language is from a Michigan state senate resolution against the dump which passed last year. Now the US Senate has taken up the fight in a similar bill introduced by Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and co-sponsored by Sens. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., Kirk, and Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis.

    Dozens of cities along the Great Lakes, Duluth included, have formally opposed the craziness of burying leaky tins of radiation in a watershed that serves H2O to 40 million people. Dave Herndon, writing for the News-Herald…


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      reported last Sept. that

      “some of the waste is highly radioactive and much of it will remain toxic for more than 100,000 years. The proposed site is less than a mile inland from the shore of Lake Huron and about 440 yards below the lake level. It is approximately 120 miles upstream from the main drinking water intakes for southeastern Michigan.”

      The language is from a Michigan state senate resolution against the dump which passed last year. Now the US Senate has taken up the fight in a similar bill introduced by Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and co-sponsored by Sens. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., Kirk, and Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis.

      Dozens of cities along the Great Lakes, Duluth included, have formally opposed the craziness of burying leaky tins of radiation in a watershed that serves H2O to 40 million people.

      Dave Herndon, writing for the News-Herald reported this zinger. The Canadian government itself expressed identical complaints about radioactive waste in the 1980s.

      Back then, when the Energy Department surveyed sites for a waste dump in the US, Canada explicitly protested. Canada’s resolution urges US officials to prevent such a dump from being built within the Great Lakes Basin.

      Ontario’s Joint Review Panel will make a recommendation to the federal government after studying the pros and cons. It has held two sets of formal hearings, and plenty of highly critical testimony is in the record. Not the least is that of former Ontario Power Generation scientist Frank…


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        Greening. OPG is the radioactive waste producer promoting the dump, and Greening worked for the company for 22 years.

        A PhD in chemistry, Greening testified this past September that OPG has adopted a “cavalier attitude” toward the long-lived hazards of radioactive wastes.

        (I said likewise in 2013 when I testified that one particularly whimsical flyer from OPG said, “…even if the entire waste volume were to be dissolved into Lake Huron, the corresponding drinking water dose would be a factor of 100 below the regulatory criteria initially, and decreasing with time.” This quip refers to 200,000 cubic meters of radioactive waste in over 50,000 containers.)

        As evidence of his attack on OPG’s proposal, Dr. Greening noted that the company estimated what radioactive materials, and in what proportions, would be in the waste — instead of taking samples. “Estimating is cheaper,” Greening told the panel on Sept. 10. “OPG has chosen to skimp on the costs of properly characterizing these piles of radioactive waste, perhaps because the analysis of just one sample costs over a thousand dollars,” Greening said.

        After Greening pointed out OPG’s gross mistakes, OPG said that errors resulted from its use of “available data” in 2010.

        “This is simply not true,” Greening charged. “OPG did not use available data, but used fabricated data instead.”

        Last April, Greening reported that materials to be placed in the dump …


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    are hundreds of times more radioactive than the company reported to the panel.

    Greening’s report devastated the company’s (OPG’s) shoddy analysis. “You got these numbers wrong up front for when you put these materials in the ground,” he said.

    “Perhaps your numbers can’t be trusted on what happens if any of this is released back aboveground. Why would I trust your numbers now?” With one type of radioactive material, cesium-137, OPG’s numbers “are 1,000 times lower” than the actual radioactivity level, Greening said.

    Of course if the vampire has friends in high places, even well placed wooden stakes, holy water and crucifixes will miss their mark. Replying to Greening’s crucial testimony, JRP Chair Stella Swanson warned that some of the material he presented was “new to the panel,” and as such contrary to its rules. Information was supposed to be given to the JRP in advance of the formal hearing.

    Swanson said the panel will rule later on whether all Greening’s information would be accepted.

    Louder and more robust objections to OPG’s Lake Huron dump need to be organized if Canadian authorities are to do the right thing.

    Michigan’s Senator Stabenow made a start when she told the press, “Canada’s proposed nuclear waste dump … puts our Great Lakes at risk of radioactive contamination that could have devastating consequences for future generations. I have expressed my strong objections to the Canadian government directly, and (this) resolution puts additional…


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    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/nuclear.html

    S.Korea stages nuclear disaster drill
    Nov. 21, 2014

    The South Korean government has held a huge disaster drill at a nuclear power plant with Japanese and Chinese government officials present.

    South Korea's nuclear regulators staged the exercise on Thursday. The drill followed the scenario that an earthquake had hit the southern city of Busan, triggering the release of nuclear materials from the Gori power plant.

    About 7,600 people took part in the maneuver, including South Korean troops, police, and local residents.

    The authorities listed challenges expected to emerge during an emergency response, such as having residents evacuate using trains and other public transport systems.
    They also discussed with Japanese and Chinese officials how the 3 nations will share information on accidents and cooperate in dealing with them….


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    From:
    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/nuclear.html

    S.Korea stages nuclear disaster drill
    Nov. 21, 2014

    The South Korean government has held a huge disaster drill at a nuclear power plant with Japanese and Chinese government officials present.

    South Korea's nuclear regulators staged the exercise on Thursday. The drill followed the scenario that an earthquake had hit the southern city of Busan, triggering the release of nuclear materials from the Gori power plant.

    About 7,600 people took part in the maneuver, including South Korean troops, police, and local residents.

    The authorities listed challenges expected to emerge during an emergency response, such as having residents evacuate using trains and other public transport systems.
    They also discussed with Japanese and Chinese officials how the 3 nations will share information on accidents and cooperate in dealing with them….


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    http://vimeo.com/112426372

    Introductory Statement to Board of Governors – Fukushima Nuclear Accident
    from IAEA PRO 5 hours ago
    IAEA Director General Yukiya Amano provided the Board of Governors with an an update on the IAEA’s report on the Fukushima Daiichi accident.


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  • We Not They Finally

    I think soon the very bad karma that the republicans have created will come back and haunt them for a long long time…I think some of them will not even come back as human.Perhaps worms ..insects and human debris.What you do will definitely come back to haunt you…


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  • RAY-D-8-TED-DREAMS

    SCIENTISTS DISCOVER WHY STARFISH ARE DYING!!
    Has your STARFISH been DRIBBLING awful SLIME? Scientists now know WHY
    Just a ghastly virus, they do say
    By Jasper Hamill, 18 Nov 2014

    American scientists have identified a mysterious seagoing virus which has caused millions of suffering starfish to "melt" into slime, strewing awful fluids all over the place.
    Boffins were baffled when they first saw the effects of the gruesome underwater epidemic.
    First an infected starfish's arms would fall off, before the poor creature's internal organs leaked out through its skin.
    The infection was so lethal that in some populations, up to one in three starfish were dying.
    The killer disease is known as the Sea Star Associated Densovirus, or SSaDV. It is the first starfish virus to be the subject of any serious study.
    “It’s the largest mortality event for marine diseases we’ve seen,” Drew Harvell, a marine epidemiologist at Cornell University, told PBS. “It affects over 20 species on our coast and it’s been causing catastrophic mortality.”
    “These kinds of events are sentinels of change,” he added. “When you get an event like this, I think everybody will say it’s an extreme event and it’s pretty important to figure out what’s going on.”

    Finding the virus was no easy task, said microbiologist Ian Hewson of
    Cornell
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/18/boffins_collar_the_worlds_most_dangerous_starfish_killer/

    http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/11/12/1416625111


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      Suspect study and why? "Most likely candidate" Which means they are clueless..

      " Viral metagenomic investigations
      revealed the sea star-associated densovirus (SSaDV) as the most
      likely candidate virus associated with tissues from symptomatic
      asteroids."


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