Published: May 3rd, 2011 at 7:39 pm ET
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Gov’t assumed massive radiation exposure from Fukushima nuclear plant, Kyodo/AP, May 3, 2011:
The government assumed a worst-case scenario of “significant public exposure” to radiation [...] a day after the March 11 earthquake and tsunami, Kyodo News learned Tuesday.
The scenario assumed the container of the No. 1 reactor would be damaged [...] if the workers failed to reduce pressure within the containment vessel by venting steam [...]
The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency assumed that the failure to vent the steam could increase pressure inside the container to three times the design limit by 11 p.m. on March 12. The high pressure would break the container [...]
Reactor No. 1, March 12 at 3:36 pm in Japan:
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UME-DrPoRjM
Published: May 3rd, 2011 at 7:39 pm ET
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very unclean energy. very ungreen. very unsafe. very costly. very profitable for only a few.
Nuclear Energy causes loss of life, promoted government cover ups and lying, and loss of economic gains. You suck, nuclear energy!
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I will re-post this because there are new people here. I thank all of you for your effort, concern and valuable input during this darkening hour.
Fukushima, Japan
A Star in the heavens is a nuclear phenomenon.
Rev 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
(Earthquake)
Rev 8:7 … and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
Rev 8:9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
Rev 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
The nuclear fuel is burning as a “STAR” does.
In Russia the word “WORMWOOD” is pronounced
Chernobyl
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In some Bible versions STAR is a LAMP or TORCH. What does a STAR, LAMP and TORCH all do? RADIATE. RADIATION???
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Nuclear Material Meets Water
Predicted in the Bible, Hmmm
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Predicted all over and then again and again: He is coming and books will be opened and everyone will receive and eat his own salad, some hell, some joyFULL eternal off-line without MSM
Matt 24:29. “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens [Greek: uouraneus] shall be shaken”
- Clear Prediction of Uranium.
“25. And there shall be signs in the sun [nuke?], and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring [all kinds of vawes, rad-radio-tsunami];
26. Men’s hearts failing them for fear [suicide], and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven [uranium] shall be shaken. ” Luke 21
And all this mess is 100% human made, allowed by the Creator – for all of us to see how what glorious human ‘science’ really does. But. He also arranged us escape, for all those who desire His solution.
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“But. He also arranged us escape, for all those who desire His solution.”
Well? Don’t just leave us hanging like that:) What’s the solution?
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Considering that one of the underlying problems (if not _the_ underlying problem) is human nature, we’re probably going to need more than just a technological solution.
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It’s the Martha Stewart solution: diet, rest, exercise, hydration, HYGIENE and advocacy. Our bodies and our homes are the temple and with a little luck…
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Like the man said..heck of a way to boil water.
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To: ALL
Here’s a really interesting article from Rolling Stone magazine called “America’s Nuclear Nightmare”
http://origin-www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/america-s-nuclear-nightmare-20110427?page=3
Read that article and then this link and notice the VAST difference:
http://www.nei.org/publicpolicy/congressionaltestimony/april-12-2011/
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What I’m dying to know is how many people are actually getting sick over there due to radiation??? How many animals are dropping dead?? WTF is really going on? Doesn’t anyone from Japan give a fcuk?? Where are the insider youtube vids?? Where are the whistleblowers?? What the fcuuuuuk?!!!
I’m dying to know if people are actually dying.
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As far as I know, no one is dying yet. I have only seen the videos in which people from Iitate mura talk about their situation and criticize the government’s attitude and decisions (check iwakamiyasumi’s ustream channel). No one made any reference to people getting sick. Also, there were the refugees from Futaba machi and other villages right near the plant, which have also offered interviews. Again, no references to people getting sick.
There was this hospital inside the 10 km perimeter in which the doctors and nurses left and around 40 patients that couldn’t walk died, but they were bed ridden patients and without electricity or food they seem to have died from their previous condition, not radiation exposure.
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japan has been lucky with the winds..
the scientist that resigned a few days ago said the cores were on the floor.
they will be going down heading towards the water table…this site needed to be the biggest construction site in human history a month ago…instead we have some crying execs and ministers pissing in the wind.
as far as nobody is getting ill yet?
if you are ever in cuba,belarus or the ukraine they have fantastic hospitals for children affected by chernobyl today 25 years later.
http://inmotion.magnumphotos.com/essay/chernobyl
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It’s not just cancer.
RADIATION SICKNESS
The evacuation radius is too small.
The stats will be hidden.
And the averages will be off…because so many of the population died in the earthquake/tsumani. http://nwotruth.com/radiation-disease-here-are-the-symptoms-and-causes/
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Nuclear fission..self-perpetuating and eternal.
http://library.thinkquest.org/17940/texts/fission/fission.html
Note to self..BUY MORE AMMO.
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Exactly, the burden in proof is shifted to victims conveniently in these ways. They know this and offset liability, accountability, remediation and costs while preserving future investment and policies that secure revenue this way and in history of this practice.
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I’d like to add it’s heartbreaking and shrewdly, coldly designed and executed. Gross, in fact.
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Thanks for the link Tony-a true reality check.
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You dont want to know do you? Me I dont when we start dropping here Im a going hunting.
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Also, just in case you haven’t watched it already, there’s this video in which some journalists go inside the evacuation zone. From April 6th though. You can see dogs and cows around. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp9iJ3pPuL8
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Hi Decker
I have done this myself. I found that you cannot look at the upload date, because that means it is when they uploaded the video and not when the video was taken.
This video could have been taken in March or April.
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That’s true. Wall Street Journal says on a piece from April 7 that “Tetsuo Jimbo, founder of Video News Network, a TV broadcasting website, and a colleague ventured into the area on Sunday.” That would be April 3rd.
http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2011/04/07/inside-fukushima-evacuation-zone-cows-dogs-and-geiger-beeps/
You can also check his website, some parts in English:
http://www.jimbo.tv/
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Hi Slick Vick,
Maybe they can’t say anything? I don’t know what it is like over there?
If I were to guess, there maybe some people sick, I would not be surprised if some even have died from this radiation.
We know some people died from the tsunami.
As far as the animals, I read somewhere that some are not doing very well.
Depending where you are at, most likely it is a slow death and you don’t know right away. It could take years, or if your lucky you’ll be ok.
Since it is blowing here, I think we will also have the same out come.
If this keeps up layer after layer, I think we will be in a situation that the US has never seen.
Already in a short amount of time, we did see levels rise.
If it was dispersing, the levels would not have jumped.
These plants in Japan need to be stopped, and all nuclear plants need to be shut down. The earth is changing and this risk is to great.
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oops meant to write dissipating…not dispersing..
I guess I wrote what I really think …that it is dispersing.
Already in a short amount of time, we did see levels rise.
If it was dissipating, the levels would not have jumped.
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WARNING – This is a very sad video of the cows, you might not want to see it.
It states this video was taken April 10.. Some cattle are dead or dying of thirst and starvation, though the precise cause of the deaths have “yet to be determined”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVAorP4J5L4
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I saw links to this and others, couldn’t watch, because I see a future very similar to us !
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That’s why I added the warning. It’s a very sad video.
I think the difference between the people there and us, is that there won’t be anywhere in the US that we can move to.
If we keep getting layer after layer we will all be knee deep in it.
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Like the beautiful cows that were stuck in their pens ?!
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I am thinking that the people thought they would be back to care for the animals.
I believe it would have been better for the cows, if they had been released.
Yes xdrfox, US could become our pen “if” it gets that bad here.
Not sure how many more layers we, the environment, food, and the drinking water can take, before it gets to the point of no return??
The longer it takes to fix this (that’s if they can), the worse it is for all of us.
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“if”
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Yes xdrfox “if” it gets that bad here.
I am trying to stay hopeful that all will be ok. Thinking good vibes here.
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@ WindorSolarPlease
Was referring to, “if” is the middle word in life !
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Pneumonias and miscarriages will be first if not walking into reactors. Be patient, it will not be pretty !
Next, The Ugly, deform offspring !
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Of the 2,072 specimens tested by U.S. World Health Organization (WHO) and National Respiratory and Enteric Virus Surveillance System (NREVSS) collaborating laboratories and reported to CDC/Influenza Division, 88 (4.3%) were positive for influenza.
Atypical flu-like symptoms and pneumonias, so yes. Also, atypical pneumonias and deaths were reported in Mexico, Canada, UK and US. So. Cal. reported eye irritations and gastroenteritis. CDC reported two flu related infant deaths and over 50% of children’s symptoms reported had ” no known prior condition. Older high risk patients with cardiovascular, asthma, lung disease, immuno-supressed and metabolic disorder were hospitalized for flu too:
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/
These are the types of early reports you get in the first month: atypical flus or pneumonias, eye irritations and “tummy bugs.” By year end the live birth numbers will be clearer (as they were drastically effected downward by Chernobyl) and the continuing latency period for other conditions is 2-60 years.
Every other nuclear event has similar findings where studiable. They also have a similar pattern: understate levels released, downplay effects, obfuscate impact shifting the burden of causation to the greiving individuals and families, disallow or discredit epidemiology studies of the affected in future decisions.
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You can check it out:
http://www.9wsyr.com/news/custom/wsyr_fh_ga/default.aspx
And,
https://www.whatsgoinground.com/
For instance, when Idaho had high 1-131 in rain samples, their CDC ILI & P&I activity was “high” also. Xenon gas would produce “fatigue” reports as it’s an anesthesia. Radionuclides cause glaucoma and “eye irritations.” ingested radionuclides attack white blood cell counts reducing immunity. It feels like a flu. Immune supressed people have inflamatory response “aches” and “arthritis.” Stomach upset is due to exposure to the digestive track, both upper and lower intestines – radioactive cesium is systemic and absorbs because your body thinks it’s potassium, but prefers it more than potassium and will store it in fatty tissues for later “use.” Strontium – same, but it’s a longer radionuclide to exhibit as it simulates calcium and goes to bones affecting white blood cell count (immune system) before any other measurable longer term effects (like childhood leukemia in the UK from low dose beta exposure of treated nuclear waste water). They all have their prefered system and pathway and they aren’t stationary once in the body.
There’s a lot of atypical pneumonia news globally right now:
http://www.google.com/m/search?tbs=nws:1&hl=en&source=mog&hl=en&gl=us&client=safari&q=pneumonia
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@mothra
Please consider running for political office. We really need someone with your intelligence and can-do attitude !
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I’m flattered, but eww. Anyone in the current political campaign climate that can garner more than 50,000 votes is an ethically questionable and compromised person.
I’d be a very unpopular, poor and reluctant candidate. Plus, what healthy person would knowingly choose swim among sociopaths? Ugh.
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I think this guy says it better than I could:
”Where love rules, there is no will to power, and where power predominates, love is lacking. The one is the shadow of the other.”
~Carl Jung
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>The proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) has been at or above the epidemic threshold for 13 consecutive weeks.
Isn’t 13 weeks a bit too long for both trends to be related?
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Those are the “attributable” to positive virus tests. What’s signifigant is the total hospitalizations for suspected flu virus that are not attributable: 2,072, but only 88 of those were positive for flu virus.
They test for influenza and report virus related data. What of all the other affected people testing no for the virus in addition to “no known prior condition” or atypical reports in addition to the millions of uninsured or undocumented who prefer not to incur out of pocket expense for a “cold” or “flu?”
CDC is just a shade of the early impact picture. It tracks the viruses, but reports hospitalizations of suspected symptoms and “atypical” deaths too. See how that works, or could apply?
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Not really, it just indicates that less than 5% percent tested positive for Influenza and Neumonia.
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Additionally, these impact studies and opinions are well known by governments worldwide. They’ve been notified. They also have their non-public studies and know the effects, even rely on them for depleted uranium bombing practices on inconveniently placed populations near desired resources who would otherwise resist seizure of resource assets or require due compensation to a collective treasury in the public interest for them. Iraq et al.
It’s illogical to conclude our government is unaware and I know they have been provided (on many levels) this information for decades in addition to their own practices for profit and gain at human expense based upon it.
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Private industry knows and has been notified via FOIA requests and lawsuits galore to name a few. They’ve even made future investments in medical treatments and pharmaceuticals to capitalize on known effects.
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@Decker: What were the 1,984 hospitalizations last week with flu-like symptoms that did not test positive for flu attributable to?
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Common cold?
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But anyway, how does it compare to previous years around the same time?
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http://www.orgyn.com/resources/genrx/D003391.asp
Radioactive xenon is a decay product of radioactive uranium.
Radioactive xenon, uranium, plutonium, strontium, cesium, iodine and americium have been detected in the US from Fukushima Daiichi.
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I encourage you to look it up in CDC reports and subtract atypical or “no” test results from confirmed H1N1, A, B and Yama strains in prior years to compare to March 2011 to present.
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Flush !
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In short, you’re too lazy too try to prove your own theory and want others to do the research for you?
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No, I’ve already done it and encourage you to, as I’m focused on other matters. The best modality in retention for educational resource is one the individual garners for themselves. Especially, in cases of healthy skepticism.
Regarding your implied assertions on my character, “laziness” in research” and burden shifting attempt in the quest for collective data and information, I can tell you they are deeply mistaken.
Ask yourself: If I am wrong, who is harmed by precaution principle I advocate: Diet, rest, exercise, hydration, hygiene, testing and disclosure. If you are mistaken in your lack of advocacy in opposition to mine, who gets hurt?
The burden shift of causation upon individual citizens in spite of decades of research and notification to relevant agencies and industry is a familiar one – just like your “common cold.” I have that playbook – bring it!
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@Decker
where are your links for the argument?
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I don’t think anyone could accuse Mothra of being “lazy” with links or related data-(as if there is some enforceable work ethic here).Got a different angle-why don’t YOU provide some links?
Mothra,you rock!-thanks some much for all the informative and well researched info. -D.
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If I may interrupt,
To avoid the last paragraph of Respiratory Atypical flu-like symptoms and pneumonias, please go see about getting a pneumonia shot as to not become ill with pneumonia to begin with for your loved ones and self, may not be totally effective on all people but is and added measure of defense !
I got mine better then 2 years ago !
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The deaths that are occuring do to radiation sickness in the area.. will not come to the light of day for a very long time..like Chernobyl.
The people with be isolated in clinics to live and die beyond the eyes of the world.
Just like the people on the GOM.. they will be offered compensation by the Government/Tepco..provided they sign a non-disclosure clause.
It can be DEDUCED that people in the immediate area are getting lethal doses of radiation.
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>It can be DEDUCED that people in the immediate area are getting lethal doses of radiation
Lethal as in “enough to get acute radiation poisoning” only the workers are at imminent danger (but I don’t know if we would get any info on that from Tepco)
Lethal as in “you will get cancer 5-50 years from now” probably hundreds of thousands, maybe millions if there are hot spots around Tokyo.
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Hi Decker,
Quote: “you will get cancer 5-50 years from now”
It might be sooner than five years for some.
Might be sooner for the children, babies, and the babies who aren’t born yet
Might be sooner for the older and the already sick.
Might be sooner for anyone.
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The timeline seems to be kind of clear, if the most pessimistic studies about Chernobyl are true.
1) Next year. Birth defects.
2) 2-5 years. First increases of Thyroid cancer among kids.
2) 5-50 years. General increases of at least thyroid cancer and probably many other conditions.
That if we don’t have any other explosion or earthquake hitting the plant.
Older people (60-80) should be OK, no? Their thyroid doesn’t need so much stable Iodine and cancer growth is slower by then. I think it’s possible they would die before the possible effects manifest.
I mean, high level of contaminants were detected in large areas of western Europe and the population there is OK (I mean, at least life expectancy is still the highest in the world in Sweden and Finland and they received plenty 25 years ago)
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The Japan disaster is different and probably worse than Chernobyl.
We can get an idea of what we might expect from Chernobyl.
This situation is unprecedented.
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You can’t compare something that is largely asleep with something still snorting smoke in the face of billions of gallons of water over many weeks. Chernobyl is encased. Large parts of the Fukushima problem are open to the atmosphere. Until it is cooled and encased, the problem isn’t sleeping. There’s isotopes in that there smoke, pardner.
“That if we don’t have any other explosion or earthquake hitting the plant.”
Yeah, what are we up to now? 600 earthquakes over 6.0 in that area since? Well, let’s just hope that doesn’t happen, but still, what is the plan to seal underneath the plant now that all the cores are melting to the floors? If the core reaches the water table, nobody will be taking bets on the outcome. Naw, it’s comparing an elephant to a plague.
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Hi radegan
You are one of the people who I have learned about this.
These are already pretty big snorts and I definitely don’t want that big sneeze of radiation.
Like most everyone I also wish they would/could fix this.
Every situation is different. I agree with you, that you can’t compare this situation with any other situation.
There is no comparison with this disaster to any other.
What has happened before only gives us an idea what we might expect, but we should not expect things to happen in the order of Chernobyl.
I do think we need to look at how people survived Chernobyl, it might help?
There are other factors in this disaster, different things and many more days of this stuff being thrown in the air than Chernobyl had.
As I said this situation is unprecedented, it’s definitely one of a kind.
The only thing I know for sure is, this needs to be stopped and we need data how this is effecting the US.
I believe our Government should be protecting this Country and it’s people. This includes warning them what is safe and what is not.
We should not be putting Corporations ahead of this.
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You can expect 5% fatal cancer in aggregate population for every lifetime cumulative dose of 1Sv. An additional 50% will exhibit other disorders and ailments from chronic, low-dose radionuclide exposure. The list of those is long and continues reproductively into future generations. Due to Fukushima’s proximity to very populated China, you may expect at least 345,000,000 people affected worldwide for every 1Sv cumulatively received (whether fatal or non-fatal).
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1 Sv is a massive dose though. They are only getting 1 Sv/h readings at some parts inside the reactors. At 500 meters north west of reactor 1 they are detecting 0.00045 Sv/h. At 1 km to the west of the reactors is already 0.0000045 Sv/h. At Fukushima Medical University, 60km NW of the plant, is 0.0000004 Sv/h. In Tokyo is 0.00000015 Sv/h.
I think you can see the pattern.
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1Sv TEDE (That’s total, CEDE internal and DDE external) cumulative over a lifetime is not hard to achieve. 5% for each 1Sv plus additional non-fatal related ailments (means more than 5% aggregate population per lifetime will be affected).
I will also state that many of these related ailments are already in epidemic today.
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But…according to this video of a health physicist:
“Fukushima poses no health risk to Americans.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oToVNEwZ3b8&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Everything is just so safe, safe, safe…as safe as apple pie.
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“They are only getting 1 Sv/h readings at some parts inside the reactors”
Decker,perhaps you mean inside the BUILDINGS?
May4, drywell reactor2: 21 Sv/h
suppression chamber:23.6 Sv/h
http://atmc.jp/plant/rad/?n=2
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Decker-”At Fukushima Medical University, 60km NW of the plant, is 0.0000004 Sv/h”
Local readings 4/27,Fukushima city,63km from plant,
@7;54 =24.79 milliSv/h
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3NxTtNIlFw
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Yeah, the high readings near drains and stuff like that are disturbing. There’s obviously accumulation of particles. I don’t know to which extent you can use the geiger counter directly on the ground like this guy is doing. It’s like putting a thermometer inside a fire, you can detect a hotspot, but you need other equipment to measure the ground contamination.
However, be careful with the units. That counter uses micro-sievert per hour (µSv/h) not milli-sievert.
He’s getting a range of 97-10 µSv/h on the ground in different parts of Fukushima province (April 24th)
97 milli Sv/h=0.097 Sv/h
97 micro Sv/h=0.000097 Sv/h
Having 97µSv/h on your own backyard is disturbing though. I hope no kids live in that house. Some guy got a reading of 6µSv/h on his roof in my neighborhood. It was down to 2µSv/h some days later (both readings directly on the surface)
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http://www.chinapost.com.tw/news_images/20110323/p13a.jpg
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/news_images/20110321/p13c.jpg
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Connect the dots!
This is why the nuclear-influenced media isn’t covering it.
They don’t want people who get cancer to tie it to the radiation from Japan or the radiation our own nuclear power plants are spewing (known as air effluence).
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http://www.dcbureau.org/201103141303/Natural-Resources-News-Service/fission-criticality-in-cooling-ponds-threaten-explosion-at-fukushima.html
Nuclear fission…the area unstable..being located on the volcanic/earthquake belt..
What??! I’m as uptight as Warloc..I just don’t swear as well.
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Quote…I just don’t swear as well.
That was cute..that’s ok..I don’t either..lol..
Warloc can be our official swearer..haha
Please don’t shoot us Warloc..J/K)))
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Heart of the Rose
Think Afu has Warloc beat in the swearing dept. LOL
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@xdrfox… You may be right! LOL
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Illnesses Surge Among Quake Victims
Hospitals serving the region say they are seeing a surge in elderly patients with pneumonia.
the Ishinomaki Red Cross Hospital has been treating pneumonia patients at roughly five times the normal rate since the March 11 disaster.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703907004576278620034100668.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Ishinomaki is just north of Fukushima.
Radiation pneumonitis?
The lungs are the most radiosensitive organ, and radiation pneumonitis can occur leading to pulmonary insufficiency and death (100% after exposure to 50 gray of radiation), in a few months.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation-induced_lung_injury
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“And so it begins…”
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Yes, this started a few weeks ago at least reports started coming in, mothra posted a link as well as I !
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50 grays is a massive dose. Pneumonia can be caused by lot of things, edema from chemical irritation, for instance. Xenon is relatively harmless, we use it medically for occasional imaging – BUT – if you breathe it day in and day out for weeks on end, it probably has other effects. If you look on the medical packaging, there are side effects and allergic responses to it for some percent of the population, like the elderly and infirm. Same with iodine – likely most Japanese have sufficient iodine in their system to prevent thyroid uptake of radioactive iodine – BUT – it’s still iodine! And if you take (x) amount of iodine into your body, radioactive or otherwise, it will have certain effects and allergic responses. If your lung capacity is already low from aging diseases or the smoking that was rampant in Japan, then these pneumonia increases do not have to have radioactive causation , nevertheless, they are still results of Fukushima.
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This is unprecedented in amount and scale upon the aggregate population.
Notable: Where there’s Xenon (decay product) there is uranium.
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>Where there’s Xenon (decay product) there is uranium.
That’s not true. Xenon is a gas, thus much more volatile than Uranium. The spread pattern is completely different.
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You are incorrect:
http://www.myweathertech.com/2011/04/27/high-levels-of-plutonium-uranium-found-in-the-united-states/
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http://www.orgyn.com/resources/genrx/D003391.asp
Radioactive xenon is a decay product of radioactive uranium.
Radioactivrme xenon, uranium, plutonium, strontium, cesium, iodine and americium have been detected in the US from Fukushima Daiichi.
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Despite “spread pattern,” qualities, behaviors of modes of deposition and distribution. They are here, as in the past events under 200 tons lasting ten days 1,000 miles farther. Fukushima is 1,900 tons lasting 7 weeks and counting.
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I’d wait for Marco Kaltofen to publish the data before commenting on it.
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And the difference with Chernobyl was the the fire that prompted the release. Much higher than even the explosion at No. 3 and much more prolonged in time, and with stronger convection currents, which were able to carry even heavier particles to higher layers of the atmosphere and therefore further.
You only have to check the levels of Cesium 137 measured by EPA on May 1986 (.56pCi/m3) and the ones measured when the plume from the explosions in Fukushima arrived to Hawaii (.116pCi/m3)
I just wouldn’t be so worried about air emissions from Fukushima for the last weeks.
No explosions or no fires, not enough amount of releases at enough altitude for the particles to be carried very far.
The Pacific is another story.
And there can be an explosion at any moment, of course, but then we are back to March 15th.
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The nature of Fukushima is a chronic, low dose emission rarely rising to the (set and flawed) risk assesment models, DILs or PAGs. Different, but no less impactful.
Chernobyl did have several notable impact in deposition advantages to Fukushima:
1.) Ton load under 200, 40% emitted one reactor
2.) blew so high a great deal of fallout passed the stratosphere, unable to circulate.
3.) Distance from US and geography inland, sparring the Pacific ecosystem to a degree.
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Sorry Marco Kaltofen’s radionuclide data is not available:
http://bostonchemicaldata.com/radio-chem.html
In the meantime, many other impact studies are available from a health doctorate discipline. Just like I don’t take my child to a civil engineer to treat an illness…
Check UCB Fukushima food chain data against Davistown Museum’s historic record for Chernobyl 1986, then the subsequent live birth data for that year. Talk to me when you’re finished, or tired of waiting.
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I do check cesium and iodine data – we’ve had much higher than what you’ve commented above here in the Bay Area:
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/AirSamplingResults
Weeks ago EPA reported to San Diego 200 pCi/l (combined air) after and during their rainouts to a friend of mine speakingly directly to the agency.
Where have you been getting your info? Check EPA historicals. Boise was way over that among others.
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Mothra, check the units from the BRAWM site. Highest for Cesium 137 (March 23rd)
1.2E-6 Bq/l = 0.0000012 Bq/l
0.0000012 Bq/l = 0.000033 pCi/l
0.000033 pCi/l = 0.033 pCi/m3
Cannot comment on data that is not available for me to check but 200 pCi/l in case of Cesium sounds too high, understand that it would mean 200,000 pCi/m3. Probably lethal in a few hours?
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I wonder how much their asbestos release is factoring into the respiratory problems? I`d imagine there is no research on hand to evaluate human exposure to two serious simultaneous carcinogens being inhaled?
Japan’s hidden asbestos problem
http://www.tica-acad.co.uk/blog/2011/03/17/japans-hidden-asbestos-problem/
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http://www.cerrie.org/pdfs/cerrie_report_e-book.pdf
What you’re asking is called bi-phasic or “Second Event Theory.” It’s signifigant, well-known and notable.
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@ Anthony
The twin towers were full of asbestos and they were going to have to have has-mat suited people to come in a do floor by floor, Very Expensive, said to be around a Billion in removal and restorations. Then they went down shortly after bought and highly insured and against terror attack expressed !
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Why was there traces of thermite found at 9/11?
It’s been established Bush was drunk?
umm…where was Cheney?
In the DARPA fairy tale –we are simply human terrain.
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Yes, I know about that too, I know the real deal. I had a close friend there that day, EMT. called me that night, Can’t go into it here ! But I notified EPA about the air !
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The “shoot-down” order as withheld.
At whose orders?
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I wasn’t there !
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Maybe now with this milde story I am allowed to write with my own name?
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@ WindorSolarPlease
Why do u hate birds?
What do u do on windless days?
Before answering, see (1,5minutes), everpresent, everywhere free energy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bZ5MAglorA
Burnin bird soup by G.E. http://www.wp.me/pwIAV-19
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Why posts disappear? Too tough issues maybe. MSM ctrl.
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Heres a link, folks
http://www.archive.org/stream/engineercorpsofh00sher#page/n5/mode/2up
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Chernoble was just a noble dosage test. They learned that it has to be 100x:
youtube.com/watch?v=vqX6bXYnNFA
Common Signature for ‘the folks’ = Handshake:
youtube.com/watch?v=WjHclCYU1vc
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“How To Protect Yourself From Radioactive Fallout”
http://ampm.hacres.com/index.php/health-news/how-to-protect-yourself-from-radioactive-fallout/
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5/4/2011 — Radiation forecast overview — Cesium-137 Buildup , Xenon in the air on West Coast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0FfMc4zMp4
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Would you trust chlorella from Taiwan?
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Not any more.
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Whales are dieing out there !
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No.
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Dang it! I ordered ASAP after the initial accident but chlorella with naturalnews is back ordered and comes from Taiwan. It is certified to be less than .5bq/kg.
What to do?!
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Hi Anna
Can you send it back?
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They gave me the option to cancel as it is still on its way to the warehouse from Taiwan I think. Dang. I really wanted that.
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I’m going to mix a dash of activated charcoal with modified citrus pectin instead.
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Can you find out when it was harvested/packaged ?
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While Foods and GNC have it. By the time it’s bottled, the shelf product should be fine.
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I need to find out when it was harvested. It could be fine or…
not.
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Chances are it was package pre-311
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Someone have that Julian dated numerology ?
it should be marked on the label.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_day
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Over the four days, 20 per cent of the Iodine-131 and 50 per cent of the Cesium-137 compared to what occurred during the Chernobyl accident, says Wotawa, who is making public detailed summaries of the UN data and how the radiation is dispersing around the Northern Hemisphere.
Health Canada will not discuss the four detectors it runs for the UN network, opting for more generic statements.
“Health Canada’s radiation monitoring stations have detected a miniscule increase in radiation levels along the West Coast of Canada,” said spokesman Stephane Shank in an email. “The increase is a variation less than what we would see naturally when it rains.”
Shank was responding to a request for comment on the reports from Wotawa’s team in Vienna that the detector in Sidney, B.C., was picking up very low levels of Iodine-131 from Japan on March 18.
“Health Canada will continue to work closely with Canadian and international partners including the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission to monitor the situation related to the damaged nuclear reactors in Japan, as it evolves,” he added. “As a precautionary measure, Health Canada is activating an additional nine monitoring stations on Canada’s West Coast to bolster its existing network of monitoring stations.”
Read more: http://www.canada.com/news/Japan+Fukushima+nuclear+plant+released+half+many+radioactive+isotopes+Chernobyl+scientists/4486343/story.html#ixzz1LQ8Z6Tqc
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We’re all advocating the public release of data – most currently the CTBT monitors still not made public (signatory government only). More data is better. The EPA is scaling way down, and won’t test fish or much:
http://petitions.criirad.org/?For-a-total-transparency-on-the
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Radiation forecast overview — Cesium-137 Buildup , Xenon in the air on West Coast
Written By: Website Administrator 5-4-2011 Categorized in: Radiation
This is an extensive list of radiation monitoring sites and as such may be interesting and useful. Any interpretation of the data here is the poster’s below. All radiation data should be interpreted carefully and with context.
May 4, 2011 by dutchsinse http://www.dutchsinse.com/blog/?p=643
watch the video of the forecast here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0FfMc4zMp4
food in berkley, CA :
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/2525
EURAD cesium-137 forecast:
http://www.eurad.uni-koeln.de/index_e.html
United States EPA “radiation map”:
http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-data-map.html
NILU full list of forecasts:
http://transport.nilu.no/products/fukushima?searchterm=fuk
NILU Iodine-131 total colum (0-15,000 feet) forecast:
http://transport.nilu.no/products/browser/fpv_fuku?fpp=conccol_I-131_;region=NH
NILU Iodine-131 surface concentration forecast:
http://transport.nilu.no/products/browser/fpv_fuku?fpp=conc_I-131_0_;region=NH
NILU Cesium-137 total colum (0-15,000 feet) forecast:
http://transport.nilu.no/products/browser/fpv_fuku?fpp=conccol_Cs-137_;region=NH
NILU Cesium-137 surface concentration forecast:
http://transport.nilu.no/products/browser/fpv_fuku?fpp=conc_Cs-137_0_;region=NH
NILU Xenon-133 total colum (0-15,000 feet) forecast:
http://transport.nilu.no/products/browser/fpv_fuku?fpp=conccol_Xe-133_;region=NH
NILU Xenon-133 surface concentration forecast:
http://transport.nilu.no/products/browser/fpv_fuku?fpp=conc_Xe-133_0_;region=NH
Uranium found in Hawaii , and WEST COAST USA !
http://www.fairewinds.com
Geiger measurement today to be done from illinois.
Here are the radiation links I have assembled.
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all old links below still functioning…
Full mid levels of Cesium , Xenon, and Iodine.. particulate matter, in the cloud vapor from surface level to 5000m (15,000 feet) ..
It is up to you to decide how you want to approach this data.
Personally, I believe it to be IN THE PRECIPITATION for sure.. which means you do not want to get the rain or snow on you, and do not want to injest the fluid.. (i.e. drink the water) until levels deminish.
the revealed US site:
http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~tcanty/hysplit
Here is a list of the radioactive particles in the air.
Taken from the 3-16-11 on ZAMG site.
XE-133
CS-134
BA-136M
CS-136
CS 137
I-131
I-132
I-133
TE-132
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&…
Higher plumes, reaching 5000 meters (15,000 feet) are forecast to reach Portugal, Spain, and central europe.
Finland radiation:
http://www.stuk.fi/fi_FI/
radiation forecasting links:
http://eurdeppub.jrc.it/eurdeppub/home.aspx#
http://www.csn.es/index.php?option=com_maps&view=mappoints&Itemid=32
http://www.jaif.or.jp/english/
http://www.rivm.nl/milieuportaal/dossier/meetnetten/radioactiviteit/resultaten/
http://www.radiationnetwork.com/
http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html
http://www.irsn.fr/EN/Pages/home.aspx
http://www.nucleartourist.com/
http://www.stuk.fi/index_en.html
http://www.mext.go.jp/english/radioactivity_level/detail/1303962.htm
http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/index.html
http://www.rivm.nl/milieuportaal/dossier/meetnetten/radioactiviteit/resultaten/
http://www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P867_02.html
http://www.mapion.co.jp/topics/genpatu/
http://strahlenbelastung.wo-wann-wer.de/
dutch radiation monitoring:
http://www.rivm.nl/milieuportaal/dossier/meetnetten/radioactiviteit/resultaten/
swiss radiation monitoring:
https://www.naz.ch/en/aktuell/zeitverlaeufe.html
Finland radiation monitoring:
http://www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P160_01.html
http://www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P867_02.html
French radiation monitoring: (thanks to youtube user: RehKurts ! )
http://sws.irsn.fr/sws/mesure/index
http://www.irsn.fr/FR/Documents/france.htm
jet stream forecasting:
http://squall.sfsu.edu/crws/jetstream.html
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/CT/animate.arctic.color.0.html
http://nowcoast.noaa.gov/
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/srh/tropicalwx/satpix/nwpac_ir4_loop.php
http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=glob_250
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