Published: December 5th, 2011 at 1:53 am ET
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Water still contained 130 Million becquerels per liter of radioactive strontium after being treated
Strontium-tainted water leak suspected, NHK, December 5, 2011:
The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant says about 45 tons of strontium-tainted water may have leaked out of a water treatment device, with a portion of it spilling out of the facility. [...]
The level of radioactive cesium had been reduced to 45 becquerels per cubic centimeter after the treatment. But the water is believed to have contained 130,000 becquerels per cubic centimeter of radioactive strontium.
New Leak Detected at Japan’s Fukushima Nuclear Plant, Wall Street Journal by MITSURU OBE And PAUL JACKSON, Dec. 5, 2011:
- The utility said beta-ray radiation from the surface of the pool was measured at 110 millisieverts per hour
- Citing Tepco officials, the Asahi Shimbun said 220 tons of water may have leaked from the unit with some of this reaching the sea
- The report added that the contamination in the water was considered moderate
Tepco Reports More Radioactive Water Leaks, Bloomberg by Tsuyoshi Inajima, Dec. 4, 2011:
Cesium Levels
- Tepco said the leaked water contained 16,000 becquerels and 29,000 becquerels per liter of radioactive cesium 134 and 137 respectively
- Those levels exceed government safety limits by 267 and 322 times, according to Bloomberg calculations
Strontium Levels
- The water may have contained one million times as much radioactive strontium as the government limit, the Asahi newspaper reported today
- Tepco may take three weeks to analyze the strontium level in the water
See also:
- 5.8 trillion becquerels of strontium leaked from Fukushima over weekend
- Japan Times: Tepco's decontamination system doesn't remove strontium -- Media butchers details on latest Fukushima leak
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Published: December 5th, 2011 at 1:53 am ET
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Nothing like a good strontium bath to get the nasal passages open.
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And look at the bright side…
1,000,000 times government limit is better then 10,000,000 or 100,000,000 x government limit.
….though using my TepCo rule the real number is probably closer to 100,000,000 anyway so just feel good about the 1,000,000 number,
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Yes
But how was it released. By convection???
Where did all the strontium go?
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forget da strontium stuff…
whateverhappenedtotheplutoniummoxxxxxxxx
maybe it’s a flyin tru der jet stream to england to be reprocessed in der government Parliament.
no windscale..
no sellafield
no thorp
or whatever it is called now everytime they have a leak they change the name.
maybe japan should try that.
fukishitma name change how about the burping dragon troubled reactor.
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0.000001 gram of plutonium will give u cancer. How sick is that?
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Into your ocean water, your fish, your seaweed.
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I quit eating fish many moons ago. We’ve got the BP oil spill, etc and debris from Japan drifting toward the US. I do take Omega-3 and am concerned as it is Salmon oil thus I may have to look for an alternative or just load up on pre Fuku product. What a world, what a mess.
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Tepco said the leaked Water is similar to the Ocean!
“Most of the water remained inside the building, but about 300 litres was estimated to have escaped and run into a nearby gutter that leads to the ocean before crews could contain the leaks, a company spokesman said today.
The water was contaminated with the radioactive substances caesium and iodine but their levels were “roughly the same as or slightly higher” than ocean water near the plant, the spokesman said.
The water may also contain other harmful substances, such as strontium, the company said. Strontium is linked to bone cancers.”
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That is a very good question, TG…
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This should be the headline in every newspaper in the world. It should be the top story on ALL news channels……..and should have been since March…..when they should have started digging under the hell hole to keep this death out of the water.
Wudafukin nightmare.
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Hello PD,
And welcome to the new folks.
This is actually getting to be very tiresome hearing this and that and knowing the truth is never really being told or there may be, or probably might be, or possibly might could be something happening there, but we won’t know for three weeks and so on.
Eat your rice and be proud and shut up is the japanese govt’s order of the day. The people are obedient sheeple more than willing to die early deaths.
Really getting tired of all the hogwash and horse excrement from tepco, the japanese media illusionists, and the japanese govt lying deceptionists. Tired of the constant cover up and lies and dis/mis-information being spewed out like the radiation is.
Getting more tired of this babalonic govt and it’s outlandish hogwash too with things like this detention act, and more wars to protect the banksters that profit from them.
We have had enough of this insanity run amok in the once was a nice planet to live on.
I want you all to go and stick your heads out the window and scream, I have had enough and I am not taking it anymore!!
Argggggggg!
End of Rant\
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I wonder how much of that strontium is going to carry over to us here in Colorado. Considering that evaporating water will carry across the ocean from Japan and land on our shores there is a good chance some of the fun is headed our way. We had a snow storm here in Denver today so I’m guessing it may have passed your way. Send me a message on my Youtube account if you got a chance to take any readings from snow fall I would be greatly interested to know the levels of what is dropping on our heads today. Hope your nice and warm inside it’s homeless popsicle weather out here.
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Hey GB,
You all getting some snow up there?
We got about fur inches her so far.
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…four inches here so far.
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Hi James, I feel the same way today with news just in that our federal government (Australia) has just voted (206 to 185 votes) to agree to export uranium to India. The conjurers trick was sloppy even by Aussie standards – they said it was riduculous to argue that it’s ok to export the stuff to China but not to India; frankly that wouldn’t have been my argument, but then they didn’t ask me. Apparently here in South Australia we have 40% of the world’s uranium buried in the outback somewhere (Olympic Dam). So, apologies everyone for our idiot politicians – if it was up to me it would damn well stay there.
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Wonderful rant!!!! I feel the same way….as do many others…OCCUPY!
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Hi PoorDaddy
I agree with you that, this should be the headline in every newspaper in the world. It should be the top story on ALL news channels……and should have been since March…
This only tells me that the Corporations are the ones running this world.
The Nuclear Plants should all be closed down, instead of keeping these dangerous things running.
Most people don’t want these plants. Stop Building Them and Close Down What You Have.!!!
They are more interested in their own greed, than the earths environment and the public’s well being.
It’s no wonder, that we are seeing people in the streets demonstrating.
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We have the jet stream bringing us all sorts of radiation.
Where rain comes from:
In the water cycle, water comes from the oceans, rivers, and lakes through evaporation. That water evaporates into water vapor in the air to form clouds, which then pour out the rain.
Since the oceans have been contaminated, why wouldn’t I expect everything else to follow.
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Imagine if this were the lead story, no one would go to work, our civilization & economy would crash immediately.
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Hi wonderer,
If people were alerted to the facts, I’m not sure that would stop people from going to work.
There are people who are begging for work. We still have to pay for food and pay for a roof over our heads.
This should not be the excuse that they use, not to tell the public.
The public has the right to know. They have the responsibility to let the public know.
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I tell my adult kids the precautions they could take. Only to find out, they played in the snow that fell.
If there was official words they might listen, instead of rolling their eyes at me.
Who are we protecting (again), the wealthy/corporations or the public?
We should refuse to accept the lack of transparency, and demand accountability for the public, we deserve at least this.
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The Japanese people will go out with dignity, but they need to be told the whole truth.
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What is much more important now is to measure the contamination of the groundwater around the plant and the sea directly in front of it.
If the cores are out of the building, these values were skyrocketing. That is the real danger. Corium slowly dissipating in groundwater would poison an incredible large area for a very long time, and there is no way to stop it.
Where are these values?
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Hello T1,
You said:
“What is much more important now is to measure the contamination of the groundwater around the plant and the sea directly in front of it.”
Yes, this would be good but who is going to do that and can the measurements be counted on as being true. So far, tepco’s reliability factor is zero and the only real fact is that this is happening. The only thing that can be accepted as a given is that this horrendous ELE nightmare is ONLY going to get worse until it is completely extinguished.
Got an extra 600,000 brave Russians around anywhere to save the day?
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The Japanese would do it, if they were told the truth.
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Meh. whats a little more radiation into the sea? not a big deal these days
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westcoastguy, my feelings exactly. People are numb beyond words.
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Classic Tepco Obfuscation
Again we see a Tepco Textbook example of how to release bad news in a way that will confuse the enemy (the public) by distorting units of measurements and hiding data by clever/sly choice of wording or by just omitting relevant data.
As to the units:
There are one million cubic centimeters in a cubic meter, so multiply bq/cm³ by 1,000,000 to get bq/m³
There are one thousand liters in a cubic meter, so multiply bq/liter by 1,000 to get bq/m³
The reason Bq/m³ should be the chosen unit is because 1 ton is equal to 1 m³ of water. This makes comparison and evaluation of data much easier.
The three reports could have been directly comparable if standard units had been applied, making it much easier to spot the missing or conflicting data.
What I get from reading and comparing these reports is this:
45 m³ of water containing a total of 5,850,000,000,000 Bq of Sr90 was leaked.
Quoting the the NHK article:
“The water is used to cool down the reactors in the power plant and the utility says the leak does not pose any problems for the process”
No problemo!
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The problem is that there is no process going on right now for which to cause problems. No one except the pump operators are doing anything.
Cold shutdown in 11 days and counting.
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So how do you apply this radiation conversion to the total amount of basement water in the FUKU complex?
How much total radiation is present in ALL of the basement water at FUKU, plus another 500 tons of water a day that they are using to keep things cool?
I have not seen ANYONE figure this out yet.. I think it would be a great service to do this..
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Interested in performing this calculation on the total amount of water in all of the buildings and basements of Fukushima?
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the deadly water is missing so it may have leaked out…never a straight admission from this bunch. there is no more shock i’m numb to this news and disturbed. soon i won’t even care fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck me.
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Hello H311,
Dang,
Now how do you figure that when a normal calculator can not divide that big a number?
So please continue. Divide 5,850,000,000,000 by 45 m cubed and then get what per square meter?
Take that number and bear in mind that a Bq is equal to one count per second and then divide again by 60 to get Counts Per Minute of the Strontium in the water or lands?
How’s that for a long walk on a short plank!
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Hi JT,
I use the calculator that comes with MS Windows.
Dividing 5,850,000,000,000 by 45 will give you the original 130,000,000,000 per m³ (not square meter)
If you want to convert bq into cpm you should not divide, but multiply by 60.
That is an even longer walk:
351,000,000,000,000 counts per minute from that body of water leaked.
If it wouldn’t be too conspicuous, I’m sure Tepco would have preferred to give the numbers in bq per cubic millimeters. That would be “only” 130 bq/mm³
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Greenpeace occupied a NPP dome in France
Activists managed to sneak onto the premises of the NPP in Nogent-sur-Seine tonight without any problems and fixed a huge banner saying “Safety in nuclear does not exist” on one of the domes.
Now HOW COOL is that? Greenpeace, you rock!
http://energie-climat.greenpeace.fr/nucleaire-des-militants-sintroduisent-dans-un-reacteur-a-la-centrale-de-nogent-sur-seine
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http://www.sbs.com.au/news/yoursayarticle/1605007/Should-Australia-export-uranium-to-India#join_the_discussion
Australian government tv channel …..swamp them with info and NO NO NO!
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For what it’s worth, it’s been estimated by several different sources that the supply of uranium ore (U3O8) will become exhausted before 2020.
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they’ve known since 1945 that they would run out of uranium and then begin using plutonium for fuel
that’s why they’re building mox fuel facilities in south carolina and china
as someone said…..while we were kept busy watching tv and working to pay taxes, they were writing blueprints for a nuclear world
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listen from @ 1:38 on this video
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thanks
and the embedded video isn’t too wide
nice
i need to work on that
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Hey, TEPCO …New leak..huh… how many leaks at the present time.?…fissures in the earth around the reactors …?
How many leaks?… did you count on your fingers.. Tepco.???
I see you have a plan .. how to decontaminate the Fukushima farmland..scrap the top soil….rake the forest…..
Cowardice has made you mad..insane…
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20111205_21.html
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At this point it might be more appropriate to list what ISN’T leaking.
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Scientists are now telling them to DUMP IT THE OCEAN.
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201112050004
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They’ve already been dumping in the ocean:
—–> In April = 11,500 tons of radioactive water into the sea
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-04/world/japan.nuclear.reactors_1_radioactive-water-fuel-pool-tokyo-electric-power?_s=PM:WORLD
( NOTE: this article says radiation levels were highest in water from Reactor #6 !! )
—–> in the sea, from March 21 and April 30 = “11.4 quadrillion becquerels of iodine-131 and 3.6 quadrillion becquerels of cesium-137″
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201109099808
—–> Where is the radioactive water/debris?
in april = arrives at Russian Kamchatka Peninsula
in november = arrives at the international date line
any day now = radioactive debris could arrive on the shores of British Columbia, Canada
—–> “…cesium being leaked into the sea from Fukushima Daiichi had traveled 2000km and down to 5000km in depth in the Pacific”
http://www.simplyinfo.org/?p=4139
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Melt-through of a reactor vessel may take from few tens of minutes to several hours. During the interaction between corium and concrete, very high temperatures can be achieved. The decomposition temperature of concrete is about 1100 °C. The corium can reach temps of 2800 °C (some scientists and researchers suggest the possibility of much higher temps 4000+). At this temp decomposition of concrete can reach 1m an hour. The possibility of total melt through in hours and days, not weeks or months seems likely!
My theory is that the first explosions and fires were caused from the coriums hitting ground water in the following hours and days after the quake. Could this be possible? What do you guys think?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corium_(nuclear_reactor)
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Based on the earlier color of smoke, when it was black and grey in the days after the explosions, I am inclined to think that the worst already happened. Now it just looks like white steam. Given the incredibly large quantity of fuels that have melted, I’m not sure how long it could continue to be a molten mass. It’s too bad that no one seems to know this.
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My reasoning for my theory is the lack of trying to fix it right from the beginning! They knew it had already left the building and from there nothing can be done = Everything is fine and dandy with only maybe possibly could have been just waiting for some more data on report of a couple of minor hydrogen fires.
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In the first few days (Thank you, Firedoglake!!)I cynically wondered if a melt-through was the cause of the earthquake.
The squirrely data releases looked like a combo of knob-twirling and slow-release BAAAAD news.
Of course, things have only gotten slower and squirrelyer.
Ah, to be a Texan and a happy mangler of language!!!
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Again, I worry with all the high readings that the worst has occurred and tepcos in the basement mixing up the medicine and keeping steam to a visible minimum.
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When people finally get a clue(very soon) there is going to be widespread chaos.
Be careful and be alert.
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“45 m³ of water containing a total of 5 quadrillion, 850 Trillion Bequerels of Radioactive Strontium 90 was leaked.” Did I get this right?
1 gallon of water =~ 8.345 lbs 2000 lbs / 8.345 lbs/gal = 239.65 gal. In the US, about 239.65 US gallons would equal a ton
239 X 45 = 10,755 gallons with almost 6 Quadrillion Bqs of radiation
Check my math….
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A quadrillion, a trillion multiplied by 1,000, is a 1 followed by 15 zeroes, as in: 1,000,000,000,000,000.
Read more: Trillions? Get ready for quadrillion http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=88903#ixzz1hynWkp85
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