WATCH: Professor links die-offs on US West Coast to Fukushima radiation — “Nobody has any idea what to do about the continuing contamination” — River flowing under plant with “molten fuel on the bottom” and it’s going into ocean (VIDEO)

Published: February 28th, 2017 at 1:39 pm ET
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Charles Perrow, Yale University professor emeritus and Stanford University visiting professor, published Apr 2016 (emphasis added):

Could I just make an observation that’s been missing from this interesting discussion? Fukushima accident is not over – not by any means… The cancer rate in Japan is going to rise steadily. It’s going to be denied by the government because there’s no transparency on this issue in Japan. There’s a particular example of the problem that intrigues me is when they put the plant in, they not only dug it out so it’d be closer to the water source – the sea – but they put it where there was a river flowing underneath that area. They went up the hill and they diverted the river so that it flowed down on the sides of the large area there and that was no problem. They never anticipated an earthquake could wreck their diversion. So know we have a strong underground river flowing directly under the plant where three huge globs of molten fuel are sitting on the bottom, giving off radiation, and sending that radiation into the water through the river that’s underneath the plant. And it’s going out into the ocean and we’re seeing damage in the marine life in the West Coast of the U.S. and British Columbia. There’s no way that’s going to be stopped, until they get the molten cores out of there, and they have no way — that they know of — of doing that. Nobody has any idea what to do about the continuing Fukushima contamination.

Watch Perrow’s comments on Fukushima here (at 1:34:30 in)

Published: February 28th, 2017 at 1:39 pm ET
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234 comments to WATCH: Professor links die-offs on US West Coast to Fukushima radiation — “Nobody has any idea what to do about the continuing contamination” — River flowing under plant with “molten fuel on the bottom” and it’s going into ocean (VIDEO)

  • Gasser Gasser

    Unbelievable someone with balls is finally admitting the truth, I wonder how long he will last.


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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    The nations building nuclear reactors all over the world are doing so without any real oversight. Cheap nuclear construction will mean many more meltdowns in the future and more dead zones completely uninhabitable. Any attempt to impose safety requirements makes nuclear energy prohibitively expensive. Nuclear decay is heating up the world at an alarming rate. And all the animal species becoming extinct are the canaries in the coal mines. All the continually exposed corruption in the nuclear industry should declare the entire earth as a nuclear free zone.


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    The great tragedy of science – the slaying of a beautiful
    hypothesis by an ugly fact.
    - Thomas Huxley


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Perrow
    …He has held appointments at the universities of Michigan, Pittsburgh, Wisconsin, SUNY Stony Brook, and Yale, where he became emeritus in 2000. Since 2004 he has been a visiting professor at the Center for International Security and Cooperation at Stanford, in the winter and spring quarters.

    His notable accomplishments include serving as the Vice President of the Eastern Sociological Society. Perrow was also a Fellow of the Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences and the American Academy for the Advancement of Science. Perrow served as a Resident Scholar for the Russell Sage Foundation at the Shelly Cullom Davis Center for Historical Studies at Princeton University. Perrow was a visitor at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Princeton, New Jersey. Perrow was a member of the Committee on Human Factors at the National Academy of Sciences of the Sociology Panel for the National Science Foundation.[2][3]

    …Perrow is also the author of the book Normal Accidents: Living With High Risk Technologies (ISBN 0-691-00412-9) which explains his theory of normal accidents; catastrophic accidents that are inevitable in tightly coupled and complex systems.[8][9][10] His theory predicts that failures will occur in multiple and unforeseen ways that are virtually impossible to predict.[11][12][13][14]


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  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    this is one of the best papers estimating how much nuclear fallout was initially released by the fukushima disaster; 10,000x more than the Hiroshima bomb. This has essentially destroyed the nuclear deterrent factor, because our scientists say 10,000 bombs worth of fallout does no harm

    http://www.npsag.org/upload/reports/00-004/00-004%20Castle%20Meeting%202011%2009%20-%20Paper.pdf
    A range of possible
    atmospheric source terms is estimated, using three methods:
    dosimetric measurements
    at the plant, simplified accident progression, and aerial USDOE maps of
    surface
    contamination. Estimates from other sources are also included to arrive at the ranges.

    —-

    The nuclear meltdowns, being on the order of 1/10 the total energy generation, are not heating the planet directly, although a secondary or many secondary effects may influence the cimate. Killing the krill has been established by science as the great missing link in modelling climate change because of its effect on cloud formation


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      is ENEnews virtually broken for everybody? I cant log in, I cant post. I get directed to a strange IIS7 internet information services page…posts will not load.


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      sorry, I poorly worded the bit on nuclear climate impact. I meant to say that the total heating by working and destroyed reactors cant be more than 10% of heat generated by other generators, like coal and oil. Once a reactor is not fissioning, the power output drops to 1% and less quickly. A fissioning reactor puts out about 1000 megawatts, or 1.3 million horse power, over 3 billion BTUs per hour. I dont think cam watchers are seeing anything like a million horse power of action going on

      The problem is not the heat…its the poison!


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      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        But the decay heat from nuclear waste lasts millions of years.

        What causes the the earth's heat to begin with? The decay heat in the cor of the earth. We have already caused catastrophic heat gain with the existing nuclear waste and it continues to increase each and every day. Some say we have alrdeady crossed the tipping point.

        And the heat added to rivers from working nuclear reactors is also adding catastrophic heat to the planet. The rivers are needed to cool the nuclear reactors and the spent fuel. And when nuclear reactors heat the rivers, what is left to cool the nuclear reactors?

        The whole cycle is killing off the earth with the combination of radiation and heat and poison from radionuclides and industrial toxins. And the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          there is a difference between highlighting the damaging effects of water heating by power generators like coal, oil and nuclear which all require about the same amount of cooling, and saying the fukushima disaster is heating the planet. The second amounts to disinfo. Im not in favor of it, especially from a PhD.

          Is the available heating energy from non fissioning fuel greater than the uranium in the earth that you talk about? Im saying the argument that the decay heat lasts a long time is not valid. Where did we get the uranium from, but from the ground? The heat from earths radioactivity far surpasses mans power generation efforts.

          Ideally, we want to convince the world and perhaps even a few science students that nuclear energy is a very bad idea. Giving half truths or non truths that they can easily see is NOT the way to do it. If you are a PhD, you have to live up to it

          Thanks


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        • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

          Fluctuations in our Sun's energy output are FAR more important than decay heat or any amount of heat generated by mankind. The obsession with anthropocentric caused global warming is a red herring. Don't take the bait. What our Sun is doing VASTLY outweighs every other factor combined. The Sun does not put out a stable constant amount of energy. It varies and we can observe that right now. As Code points out, we need to focus on the POISONS spewing from nuclear; not the trivial amount of heat added to the system. A single volcanic eruption dwarfs any nuke reactor or other giant power plant when looking at greenhouse gas emissions and heat output. Don't get sidetracked by this global warming nonsense. It's bogus science based upon falsified data. These warming pimps never ever even mention that the Sun is BY FAR the most important factor in determining Earth's temps. They never mention that they hage no idea how to calculate the impact of greenhouse gases upon temps. Gore's "hockey stick" fearmongering has been exposed as fraud. Gore, Obama and many many other politicians stand to become filthy rich if they can ever pass a "carbon tax." They have a scheme to make commissions on there new carbon taxes and the cap and trade scam. Just google, "Chicago Climate Exchange, Obama, Gore."


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          • GOM GOM

            BRF

            Ahh.. The whole 'forget about decay heat' mantra. Abrupt climate shift, the sun, blah-blah..How easy it to gloss over decay heat and make it seem trivial compared to other 'huge' issues.
            You sound like a Code protege'.

            The only 'pimp' I see is you with the whole decay heat is irrelevant garbage. And comparing a volcano with nuclear?

            Here is some "falsified data" for you. We here in Panhandle have not had a winter. For the last 5 days we seem to be in a heat wave with extreme humidity, temps 81-91. 65 at night. The local news lies or skips over current temps and rambles about tomorrow. Now WHO tells them to do this, NASA?

            In essence your post denies CO2 as being absorbed by the oceans, correct? You think the whole industrial age has done nothing to CO2 levels? If one realizes that the world ocean has it's own climate that drives global weather, AND absorbs CO2, one can see the the problem with decay heat, amongst the other climate altering garbage the nukers have subjected the planet to.

            The nukers have destroyed the atmospheric protection of the Earth. Why do you think they spray aluminum? Now we can talk about the Sun..


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            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              GOM, why do you say that? You agree that decay heat is a small percentage of the heat from a fissioning reactor. Diminishing to 1% … to 1/10% quite quickly. Meanwhile, 2/3 of running reactors goes into heating the ocean. Nuclear is 10% of the total energy production, the other 90% also losing 1/2 or more to the ocean. So the ocean heating from decay heat is a tiny tiny fraction of the ocean heating from ape-mans other generators. Then you compare to the sun. The sun is heating the ocean 5000x more than ape-man. So you can see that the decay heat is 1/5000 of something already very small, comparatively. You go on to say poster BanReactors sounds like a code protege. This is of course not true, makes no sense, is useless non sequitur slamming, serves no purpose, doesnt promote truth, has no value in stopping nuclear…..why do you do it?


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              • GOM GOM

                Code
                Disagreement doesn't equal slamming. To say that artificial nuclear decay heat is somehow inert,.. a residual dormant thing of no significant value, well, how do you sleep at night?

                You speak of percentage but don't speak of lag time or accumulation. There is no real data on decay heat in the marine environment. Of course there isn't because the nuke industry uses the world ocean as a damn toilet bowl, along with their siamese twin, the military.

                Just because one is brilliant in nuclear physics doesn't mean they can tie their shoes..;)


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                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  GOM, have at it. But accumulation of decay heat? Does the decay heat of the uranium in the ground or the 4 billion tons of uranium in seawater accumulate? I dont say decay heat is inert, dormant or not significant. Those are your words. What is the contribution, thats the question. Is decay heat from Fukushima really heating up the ocean or world, significantly, measurably, importantly, etc? Now if you talk about a local event, then yes. Lets talk about a nuke reactor spent fuel pool that lost its cooling. Decay heat is now everything. The reason we should stop shooting bullets is because
                  A) it causes global warming or
                  B) it kills people

                  The reason we whould stop using glyphosates and neonicitinoids is because
                  A) it causes global warming
                  B) it poisons things

                  The reason we are bothered by mosquitoes is because
                  A) they cause global warming or
                  B) they bite


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                  • Jebus Jebus

                    I think that humans think mostly in what the can only feel as the Sun's influence upon the Earth.

                    There is a factor that has not been mentioned here in the conversation of the daily give and take of the thermodynamics of this planet.

                    The part that Humans are influencing is the thermal barrier to space, of the atmosphere.

                    Closing the blinds just a little can have tremendous influence upon the daily, day to night, seasonal, give and take, of an atmosphere.

                    We are producing more heat than we used to.

                    We are keeping more heat than we used to.

                    Now, less permanent bright snowpack everywhere, growing.

                    It's just enough leverage upon a time balanced ecosystem.

                    It, the atmosphere, breathes into space in endless cycles. Day, night, seasons, sun cycles, solar wind.

                    Think of the nuclear plant in Ohio a bit back that created snow from it's condensor outflows. Changing state can cool too…

                    What's this have to do with all that input of heat from nuclear plants worldwide?

                    Nuclear Power is just another heater in a room with the AC failing, while us chipmunks add more insulation to the atmosphere.

                    It's not stopping what's coming in, as much as it is interfering with the exchange outward.

                    I see the whole spectrum of heating the Earth from the Sun.

                    I only see thermodynamics working to cool it.

                    And I hope that makes sense…


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                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Perfect sense.. :)


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      How does the earth cool itself down from the suns constant blast, and how might nuclear affect the process in a significant way?

                      Animals breath out a large amount of Co2 and it was once thought that whales contributed to global warming. However when they looked into it, the whale poop fertilizes phytoplankton and the phytoplankton are a carbon sink. The net effect is that whales offset the amount of Co2 equal to tens of thousands of automobiles. Whale populations have been decimated and earth is a virtual death zone as we speak.

                      But theres more, always more. The plankton give off aerosols that seed clouds. This turns out to be a major factor driving climate. Clouds reflect the suns rays, keeping the ocean below cooler. But more than that, the clouds are also part of the storm systems and it is storms that churn the upper layer of the ocean. This is a very important part of the heat transfer of the ocean

                      Plankton bio accumulate fallout to enormous levels. Chitin acts like an ion exchange resin. The krill were no doubt affected by the fallout from Fukushima. This results in less cloud seeding, less food for the little fish that ultimately feed many types of whales. The final result is less life and it turns out that life is a huge driver of earths climate.


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        • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

          "Chicago Climate Exchange".

          Follow the money to understand the motives of these people who ceaselessly push global warming and climate change. The climate change hustlers will make TRILLION$ if they can ever enact global carbon taxes. If you believe these liars who are hustling US so they can make a buck then that's on you. Research the truth.

          "Chicago Climate Exchange, Obama, Gore"


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        • AirSepTech AirSepTech

          Here, there are over 100 dry casks of 'nuclear waste' at Palo Verde NNP.

          http://postimg.org/image/6g1xix8er/

          How hot are they? Hotter than the pavement they sit on? Are they 'redhot smoking'?

          25 miles east is Phoenix, 1.5 million people. Making meals, hot water, 1000's of deep fryers makin' French fries, millions of square feet of roofing/pavement, 1/2million cars/homes rejecting heat,,,,ya know?

          http://postimg.org/image/z8q21laoj/

          Who do you think is the 'BTU Champion'?

          'What causes the the earth's heat to begin with? The decay heat in the cor of the earth.'

          Seriously? Turn off the Sun for a year, see what good the core does everyone when the surface is -100f. :lol:

          Thanks for the entertainment dr a

          Too bad it is 'anti' anti-nuke! :(


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          • GOM GOM

            AST

            Heat balance of the earth's surface (radiation balance, loss of heat to evaporation, turbulent heat exchange) and the distribution of these components in time and space.

            We live on the outside of the ‘containment shell’ of a giant nuclear reactor.
            The Laws Of Thermodynamics say that heat can only flow from hot to cold. It is our own nuclear reactor heat that warms the Earth. The heat flow is from a 6000 K core to a 3 K dead of space.

            The Sun does not warm the Earth, it only modulates the heat flow from the very hot core / mantle / crust out to the very cold depths of space.

            The Sun MUST continue. (If it didn’t, we would rise to core temps over time). All of which says we are warmed by the core, and modulated by the Sun.

            Stick to Nuclear..;)


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            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              GOM, sorry to barge in, but you might reconsider. The earth receives 89,000 terawatts on average…more energy in one and a half hours than ape-mankind generates in a year. This warms the earth, or rather, keeps it warm. It is no different than sitting next to a camp fire. I dont understand your statement that if the sun didnt continue we would rise to the earths core temperature. Must be that you are joking. The written word is not as communicative as I had assumed!


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            • AirSepTech AirSepTech

              "The Sun MUST continue. (If it didn’t, we would rise to core temps over time)."

              GOM, show any evidence that without heat from the Sun, the Oceans would boil away from internal heat. Something in the context of the conversation, like before we all turn into ice cubes would be appropriate.

              TIA

              While you have your thermodynamic thinking cap on, where is more BTU created?

              PVNPP nuclear waste storage?

              City of Phoenix human associated waste heat?


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              • earthsmith earthsmith

                I thought the ocean and their currents modulated the temps. Helping to create precipitation and drive atmospheric conditions. Could be wrong. But without the sun that s an awful lot of cold to heat and hold. As a kid I always loved digging "to China" was always cooler down there until the sun got over me.
                So when we have an ice age it's because our core is taking a nap…
                Pretty sure atmosphere has a bit to do with it too.
                http://www.space.com/18526-venus-temperature.html


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              • GOM GOM

                AST

                Do I ever get credit for knowing anything? Assume for 1minute I might be right about this and you may not know or realize that the Sun modulates Earth's temps. The vast majority of our heat is released to space. And why do I know this?

                Growing up I had dreams of working in Science. Any science. I studied the Earth, the weather, anthropology..preparing myself. Of course this was on a grade school level. Then, I was abruptly put into Catholic school where you do not dare speak

                of evolution or space, or anything 'scientific' really. We studied rocks. And caves, stalagmites and strata. Geography became my science. Real science became my God. God as science.

                Technically, with the 'churches' help, I and the other girls were raised as bimbos. Nothing was expected of us but marriage and babies, housekeeping and cooking.

                No more talk of 'foolishness' such as science. So I took to books. Learning what I could, followed my 'chosen path', and woke up at age 35 after reading Iserbyt's Diliberate Dumbing Down of America. I have posted it here often.

                I openly admit to my lack of nuclear knowledge. I am humble and curious enough to ask questions. And if I'm wrong, so be it.

                To those of you who are male and highly educated in a science field, or had an opportunity to work. even without the schooling, I salute you. Women are not always as fortunate.

                The Laws of Physics are not an opinion. They cannot be changed at whim or when someone feels…


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            • GOM, you are wrong. About half the heat in the earths core comes from fission. Natural half life fission, not a "nuclear reactor" it is not like that at all.

              There is enough energy in 11 seconds of sun hitting the earth to equal the energy in all the Atomic bombs ever set off.


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              • Jebus Jebus

                What with the Earth's electricaly charged magnetic field and the streams of solar winds passing by, massive amounts of energy, I would believe that there is a certain amount of induction heat near the center of the planet judging by the polar flux diving towards there, at both ends of the field.

                A field and an armature? It's just a law.


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2016/03/fukushima-accident-panel-discusses-safety-energy
    Perrow referenced the Fukushima, Chernobyl and Three Mile Island nuclear accidents by asking a key question: “Why are we still building nuclear power plants after three major accidents?” he said. “We now have renewable energy in the form of wind and solar and geothermal that can replace this very dangerous, very expensive form of … power,” he said.


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    • What many Americans don't know is how these big companies got a stranglehold of community power supply.
      Immediately after WWII the big players, Westinghouse and GE etc. met with gov't. and designed a national energy plan that was rubberstaped by gov. with no public input.
      It grants the big players monopoly rights to power providing to towns and cities because it forces communities to buy energy 'in bulk' amounts. It forbids small energy providers from adding to the grid or taking any revenues away from the big companies. The amounts of enery (in hours) are bundled like your crappy cable tv provider.
      If this system is knocked down and alternative energy providers can step up they will be great progress. But the pols are bought out.

      I found out all this touring the under-the-east-river tide power project. The project is off City Island next to New York but under state control, not city control for these political reasons.


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://www.australiansforanimals.org.au/fukushima/

    Here are some of the facts:-
    •Polar bears, seals and walruses along the Alaska cost are suffering from fur loss and open sores.
    •Something is causing fish all along the west coast of Canada to bleed from their gills, bellies and eyeballs.
    •Sea stars along the west coast are “ melting.”
    •A vast field of radioactive debris from Fukushima that is approximately the size of California has crossed the Pacific coast and is coming ashore in dribs and drabs along the US West Coast.
    •Experts have found very high levels of cesium-137 in plankton living in the waters of the Pacific Ocean between Hawaii and the west coast.
    •According to TEPCO, the Japanese corporation responsible for Fukushima, somewhere between 20 trillion and 40 trillion becquerels of radioactive tritium have gone into the Pacific Ocean since the disaster began.
    •It has been estimated up to l00 times as much nuclear radiation has been released into the ocean from Fukushima than was released during the entire Chernobyl disaster.
    •The California coast is becoming a dead zone.
    •According to one nuclear expert, Yale Professor Charles Perrow, if the clean up proposed for Fukushima is not handled with 100% precision, the 6,375 rods which TEPCO is attempting to remove could “ fission and all of humanity will be threatened for thousands of years.


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    • Jebus Jebus

      More facts…

      Seward, Alaska: Our starving eagles

      Now the eagles are impacted. “It’s an unfortunate situation,” the Alaska SeaLife staff member said, “and the eagles at the top of the food chain are now suffering from the problems at the bottom of the food chain last year.”

      http://randomcurrents.com/seward-snapshot-our-starving-eagles/

      We are further than we think we are…


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    • 4Yahshua

      3~1~5999 (out of 6000) in these LAST DAYS
      Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON!
      Pray NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM.
      Revelation 14:1 HalleluYah! Hebrew: "Praise ye Yah!

      Here on the lower Left Coast I have had sores mostly on upper arms and back since sometime after 3~11~11. Our skies in the very early a.m. are very yellow.(Cesium?) Big Question! Is our much increased rain fall now bringing in much more radiation??

      ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH'S SAINTS!


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    Tepco claimed US military persons affected by Fukushima fallout and radiation should not be allowed to sue for compensation because it would become "political and international". Tepco has already made it so.

    http://issues.org/28-3/pfotenhauer/

    Learning from Fukushima


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      One common refrain has been that Fukushima happened because politics interfered with technology, leading to political biases in risk assessments and safety reports as well as inconsistent regulation by industry-captured government authorities. According to this narrative, political influence should be prevented by shifting power to regulators and expert scientists, who are assumed to be objective and independent. Politics should be excluded.
      In contrast to this storyline, we argue that the failure at Fukushima was not just that decisions were political, but that they were asymmetrically and incompletely political. A technological system should not be seen as political only when things go wrong. Rather, political values and interests are continually part of nuclear operation, including periods of normal management and robust technological performance. From a sociotechnical perspective, the challenge is not to exclude politics but to ensure that political agendas and channels are transparent, explicit, and open to debate.
      As in all other nations, nuclear power in Japan has always been deeply political.

      Fukushima underlines yet again that there are no good models without robust societal mechanisms to deal with their inescapable uncertainties, limitations, and failures.


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  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    “All of humanity will be threatened for 1000s of years” if rods in Unit 4 pool touch and have nuclear reaction during removal process"

    I smell a ruse, a ploy, a gimmick. The unit4 SFP already had destruction of its fuel rods. Fuel may still be at the bottom of the tank.

    If you say 'nothing like this has been attempted' and then 'complete success' you condition the public. I bet they call this media manipulation the cliffhanger strategy

    In fact they did take fuel out of three mile island. 67,000 pounds of fuel debris was retrieved by cutting the reactor apart with plasma torches and other means

    http://www.iaarc.org/publications/fulltext/Dismantling_the_damaged_three_mile_island_reactor_vessel_by_remote_plasma_arc_cutting.PDF


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  • laconic93 laconic93

    Finally a Yale University Professor that we can point to our friends and say see, I'm not a psycho. Dr. Helen Caldicott is a close second since she taught at Harvard U.


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  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    The European Committee on Radiation Risk has several outstanding members with high degrees and represents the work of many hundreds of scientific research projects studying the effects of nuclear fallout. They find that man made nuclear fallout is very roughly 300 to 1000x more toxic than assumed by the standard dose models.
    http://euradcom.eu/


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  • Isthmus

    One way of moving the existing radiation is gravity, in New Mexico, Yucca mountain they wanted it underground, not that that's ok, we just speculate on that, but it more than likely that the core of the Earth is Radiation and I suspect if the Rad's at Fuku. were deep enough the worst that could happen in time is Japan would have another Volcano, we live with them. Now moving rock is not hard to understand how to do, a large hole next to the problem, very deep, and another last dynamite shot to coax gravity to take care of the problem. I say this because when I was a 21 I blasted a lot of rock at empire landing, Catalina Isl. close to the Isthmus, we provided rock for breakwaters on the mainland. I was told that a blast we did was second largest blast in Cali. , and 2 days later was the Alaskan earthquake.


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      the magma layer is 1800 miles down, although magma closer to the surface exists. Iceland drilled three deep holes and finally found a magma pocket 1.3 miles down. The deepest hole ever drilled is seven miles. One would have to figure out how to keep the corium from erupting out the hole you put it in.


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    They had it all figured out by April, 2011. Seems the decommissioning plan was to silence the media and keep it a dirty little secret that they had no clue what to do with the biggest nuclear disaster in history. None.

    http://www.smartbrief.com/s/2011/04/ge-hitachi-file-decommissioning-plan-fukushima-daiichi-reactors
    GE, Hitachi file decommissioning plan for Fukushima Daiichi reactors

    4/13/2011
    General Electric and Hitachi have filed a proposal to decommission the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant amid ongoing stabilization efforts there. The plan was filed April 8 and includes Bechtel and Exelon, said Yuichi Izumisawa, a spokesman for Hitachi. Groups led by Toshiba and Areva have submitted similar plans.


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    • theworldisalie theworldisalie

      ^Yeah I just love this comment "Every generation after 1950 has a little bit higher risk," she said. "The largest increases are in people in their 20s."

      Gee I wonder what that could be huh!? The dawn of the nuclear age perhaps?…

      Yeah we are screwed.


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    • Gabe Gabe

      I have not seen any study addressing whether or how HPV is related to this increase. It certainly is related to the increase in oral and throat cancers. At least 30 years ago I specifically initiated a dialogue with a physician who was very well read on issues of public health. He and I worked together. I was responsible for developing and implementing holistic health and wellness programs for a population of men, many of them young and middle aged. At that time HIV was just becoming an issue. It occured to me that if HPV was inclined to survive well in the warm, dark, and moist regions where we were tthen testing for and finding it, it should also likely thrive in the oral cavity. I posed that question to him and he was rather shocked, but immediately dismissed the notion stating he had not seen any incidence of an oral infection. When I asked him if he specifically tested the oral cavity if or when lesions were found he said no. I doubt that pathology labs at the time were testing oral lesions for HPV.
      We now know that the incidence of HPv infection in rectal cancer is being noted.
      I only throw out the above information because I assume that there are multiple causes for the increase in colo-rectal cancer…………diet being one. Obesity is another. As well, if contaminated food is sitting in a constipated colon and rectum…….welll………


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      • GOM GOM

        Gabe

        HPV is bacterium.

        Thermophile. A thermophile is an organism—a type of extremophile—that thrives at relatively high temperatures, between 41 and 122 °C (106 and 252 °F). Many thermophiles are archaea. Thermophilic eubacteria are suggested to have been among the earliest bacteria.

        Although not in the same class, bacterium through history love heat.

        Our core (body) temperatures are rising with the advancement of heat extremes. Algae bacteria almost destroyed the Earth once, and is once more a plague.

        Maybe not so far-fetched an idea?


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  • laconic93 laconic93

    Looks like Linkedin is censoring Enenews. I tried to post this link it rejected it 5 times. I posted the link from Cornell University and it posted on the first try.


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  • SadieDog

    NASA… Using nuclear war to cool the planet, "NASA climate scientists are playing with fire… from a nuclear war, to be precise…in a computer simulation, that is. The computer simulations are an attempt to determine the effects of a limited or regional nuclear war on the planet’s climate system.

    Lead researchers Luke Oman at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center actually conceived of the idea five years ago at a meeting of the American Geophysical Union (AGU). He had been presenting his research on the impact of volcanoes (sulfur dioxide gas) on the climate, using a computer simulation. Several other colleagues approach him wanting to know the impact of black soot aerosols resulting from a nuclear conflict.

    The two “ingredients” or inputs (sulfur dioxide and soot) are different in their impacts. They differ principally in the amount of sunlight they absorb or reflect (or let pass through to reach the surface). Volcanic aerosols can warm the upper atmosphere somewhat, but generally produce a cooling effect on near-surface atmospheric temperatures.  Initially, nuclear-borne fires would produce a dramatic heating effect, but the massive injection of black soot into the upper atmosphere that follows this would tend to counteract that by blocking incoming radiation."

    http://planetsave.com/2011/03/02/limited-nuclear-war-could-halt-global-warming-nasa-predicts/


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      "Here is one typical scenario:
      In a theoretical regional war, as in one between India And Pakistan, widespread fires would result sending thick clouds of dust, ash and smoke into the troposphere. Acting as a gigantic black soot sun screen, the layer of black carbon aerosols would absorb a good deal of  heat radiation (making it rise up higher like a hot-air balloon), warming the upper atmosphere, where it would continue to block some quantity of the in-coming solar radiation.

      On the surface, apart from suffering the effects of nuclear radiation, the short to medium-term impacts of this effect would be:
      1] A decrease in global temperatures (up to 1.5° Celsius [2.7° F] drop in average global  temperatures) over three years.
      This would be a slighter version of the “nuclear winter” that was so chillingly described by Carl Sagan in a televised panel discussion, following the broadcast of the film The Day After (early 198o’s).
      2] A decrease in rainfall (up to 10%), two to four years after the event"


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    • SadieDog

      "Luke Oman
      NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Atmospheric Chemistry and Dynamics Branch Greenbelt, MD 20771
      We use a modern climate model and new estimates of smoke generated by fires in contemporary cities to calculate the response of the climate system to a regional nuclear war between emerging third world nuclear powers using 100 Hiroshima-size bombs (less than 0.03% of the explosive yield of the current global nuclear arsenal) on cities in the subtropics. We find significant cooling and reductions of precipitation lasting years, which would impact the global food supply. The climate changes are large and long- lasting because the fuel loadings in modern cities are quite high and the subtropical solar insolation heats the resulting smoke cloud and lofts it into the high stratosphere, where removal mechanisms are slow. While the climate changes are less dramatic than found in previous "nuclear winter" simulations of a massive nuclear exchange between the superpowers, because less smoke is emitted, the changes seem to be more persistent because of improvements in representing aerosol processes and microphysical/dynamical interactions, including radiative heating effects, in newer global climate system models."

      https://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20110005667


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      Sadie

      As the Sun is the modulator of Earth's heat, this makes perfect sense. And it alleviates the 'population problem'. But, there is a downside..it will thin out the ozone layer. Being we don't have much left. we will fry..literally.


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  • oldster

    We have a curious cultural admixture, in this age of hi technology, wondrous electronic gizmos, scientists coming out of humanity's wazoo, educational institutions beyond number, information glut, and so on: at the same time, the very 'educated' among us seem to include a very large number of people for whom common sense is verging on extinct, and magical thinking, make believe rules, and reality cannot be faced. Solzhenitsyn wrote in his autobiography that the truth is bitter. Beyond that, now reality itself seems to be too much to bear.

    There was the curious case of the college students in the US traumatized during the recent election because someone had written Trump's name on a set of stairs. I can't recall whether they were sent to Romper room with jelly beans in order to calm them down, but they are a sign of the times. An acquaintance of mine, very very concerned about carbon dioxide, with a degree and much fieldwork background in biological sciences, looked at me with a blank stare, then turned away, when I asked her gently if she was concerned about nuclear power plants and geoengineering. She had no answer; displayed annoyance; disengaged.

    Zero Hedge included recently http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-26/intellectual-intolerance-stunning-speech-stanford-university-provost-exposes-threat- : "In a remarkable – for its honesty and frankness – statement on the intellectual rot within America's Ivory Towers, Stanford University Provost John…


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    • AGENT 9X "THE CAT" or-well

      It's said Science advances one funeral at a time.
      Or, the calcified orthodoxy that usually develops in a field of study and then defends its turf must be shattered for progress to occur.
      In an atmosphere of intolerance, intellectual rigidity is the safe way.
      In a corporatocracy/oligarchy, intellectual servitude is most profitable.


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      • oldster

        Disembodied science may advance, but scientists? If one reads Themistocles or Herodotus, or considers Hippocrates's medical wisdom: "let [nourishing] food be thy medicine", which in five words contains more wisdom than a gaggle of highly educated MD pharma-pushers, one encounters genuine, and (2500ish years ago) fruitful bright engagements with reality.

        Some conglomeration of influences of late have fostered in North America at least, and in much of Europe, a widespread descent into make-believe and self-censorship, amalgamated with hubris; unrelieved by common sense: a situation that is for me indistinguishable from madness, insanity. The layman defines insanity as pathetically or dangerously unable to distinguish between reality and hallucination; the educated post modern form of this seems to be an unwillingness or incapacity to engage the real, and an obsessive attachment to pretense, a fixation on elements of one's acquired position, and as noted, this conjoined to arrogance. Intellectual humility, a realistic awareness of one's limitations of understanding, which engenders openness to new information or perspectives, seems broadly in modern culture to have receded, and adamant dogmatic stances to be in ascendancy. This 'insanity problem' encompasses a far greater range of professions than scientists. Thus at that moment in history when our collective intelligence is so needed, many have declined into thumb sucking, idolatry,lies and screaming. There are…


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  • Isthmus

    oldster I'm afraid were in for a real fall , Websters Dictionary copyright 1940, the word Hashish, it is now called Marijuana, at end of definition – " The Assassin Of Youth" , Marijuana causes a genetic throwback. They will disagree because they can't conceive of consequences, and that is because they only live for today, and that is not sanity.


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    https://www.japantoday.com/smartphone/view/national/ex-worker-at-fukushima-plant-seeks-compensation-for-cancer

    Ex-worker at Fukushima plant seeks compensation for cancer

    Mar. 01, 2017 – 06:30AM JST
    SAPPORO —

    A former worker at the site of the 2011 Fukushima nuclear disaster filed a lawsuit Tuesday with the Sapporo District Court seeking labor compensation from the state for his subsequent development of three types of cancer.

    The 58-year-old man from Sapporo on Japan’s northernmost main island Hokkaido is the first person to file such a lawsuit seeking labor compensation with illnesses linked to workplace radiation exposure after Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc’s Fukushima Daiichi plant suffered meltdowns following the huge earthquake and tsunami in March 2011, his legal counsel said.

    The man was diagnosed with bladder, stomach and colon cancers between June 2012 and May 2013 after taking part in work to clear debris with heavy machinery at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex in northeastern Japan from July to October 2011 near buildings housing the Nos. 1 to 6 reactors, and was exposed to 56.41 millisieverts of radiation in total, according to his written complaint.


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Related post: http://enenews.com/89-sieverts-hour-measured-soil-steps-away-columbia-river-washington-nuclear-site-worst-contamination-feet-groundwater

    Well, alrighty then. How baffling and mysterious. Caught between Fukushima AND Hanford heavy metal toxic radioactive heavy metals, fish just can't catch a break


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  • SadieDog

    "A South Korean airline has decided against launching flights to Japan’s Fukushima Airport due to concerns over nuclear radiation."
    http://www.traveldailymedia.com/247716/airline-pulls-out-of-fukushima-over-radiation-worries/


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  • RAY-D-8-TED-DREAMS

    Revelation 8:9
    And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    Great work of late, ENE. Better than ever. Sorry to see your thread go to pots. I hope those that see that Fukushima supersedes all things and whom respect and appreciate the relevance of this site are donating what they can…

    “What we desire our children to become, we must endeavor to be before them.” ~Andrew Combe


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  • RAY-D-8-TED-DREAMS

    The GLOBAL INCIDENT MAP is supposed to be about terrorism and suspicious incidents but you will note that the most activity they list is related to mass die offs of fish and wildlife and mysterious diseases.
    That tells you what the real threat is
    http://www.globalincidentmap.com/beta/mystery-wildlife-incidents
    http://www.globalincidentmap.com/


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  • gustavo lopez v

    Russian scientists (Vassili Nesterenkov) made calculation for the possibility of a second explosion
    in Chernobyl reactor (because of the melted Uranium magma could reach underground water), and they arrived to the conclusion that a 3-5 Mt explosion can happen. That was the reason why Chernobyl hat to be enclosed in a coffin. Does anybody know whether or not this second explosion may occur at Fukushima ? Does anybody has estimated what will happen in this case and make action recommendations ?


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    • In general the decay heat from these 5 year old and older coriums is pretty "cool", they are occasionally, even last month, steaming up a storm as shown on video.

      And there may be occasional fission, usually during a stock coined "shake and bake" event, aka earthquakes in which previously chunks of fission debris were separated from a "mate" of fission junk that when thrown together can create fission, again.

      The chance of a large prompt moderated criticality or steam explosion at this time is very low.

      PS your action preparations should already be in place.
      1) Bug in / Bug out box when plenty of visqueen and duct tape
      2) KI pills, and Prussian Blue if you can afford it (and instruction on dosing, printed, not on electronic media)
      3) HEPA air filters
      4) Water purification device / RO, charcoal also good.
      5) Geiger counter and know how to use it
      6) Good respirator and cartridges

      stock out.


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      • Isthmus

        Stock did you know about the Box Jellyfish in Hawaii water, very venomous .


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        • Have you ever been body surfing and have a jellyfish get scooped into your swimsuit while skimming the wave…..LOL (not at the time) it's not fun.

          or kayaking at dusk and you flip a poison jellyfish onto your arm/back and then have to use your bare hand to extract the already stinging beastie….

          Indeed, adventures are not always that fun when you are in them.


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    • razzz razzz

      After the lid blew off, they really didn't know what would happen at Chernobyl. Most likely the lid blew off because of a steam explosion when fuel rods overheated due to criticality (uncontrolled fission in this case). Once the water that acts as a neutron moderator boiled or flashed off, any fission stopped. Melting and fires were likely caused by decay heat. Decay heat enough to burn and vaporize the graphite control rods which have a very high melting temperature. From that point, worry was about the melt encountering any water. Whether they feared water causing another steam explosion or criticality or both is not clear but mute point as the melt(s) flowed on concrete to lower floor levels until coming to rest in open air. Hence the need of a sarcophagus to semi-contain the melts.

      Daiichi, attempts were only to cool the melts as containments were lost and hydrogen production leading to explosions became unavoidable Worries about re-fission and steam explosions seemed secondary as both apparently occurred.

      Questions are, did the melts plop down into groundwater and cool themselves? Or if containments had held water would they flood and fill the shells to cover, shield and cool the melts without causing other reactions (fission or hydrogen and steam explosions)?

      Chernobyl: melts high and dry. Daiichi: melts sitting in water. Which do you prefer? No matter, there is no containment and melts might as well be sitting in an open field.


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        melting temperature of carbon 6422 deg F. Decay heat?

        A Study on the Coolability of Ex-vessel Corium by Late Top Water Flooding
        http://www.ewp.rpi.edu/hartford/~flahid/EP/Other/Zhong.pdf

        I have wondered about filling the vessels with water. 60 feet of water gives 26 psi. If it were me, I would be concerned about pressurizing the radioactive effluent powerfully into the ground. There are holes that go through the basement. The higher you fill the containers, the more water squirts out. I notice they filled the unit four to the brim. Thats curious

        At Chernobyl we get a sense of how money and profit is the guiding force for remediation. They kept two other reactors operating for years! For some reason, the international publicly funded (everything is publicly funded) arch is considered cheaper than removal. For three mile island, removal must have been the cheapest option


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        • razzz razzz

          Filling the vessels is a mute point since they leak like sieves but TEPCO wanted to fill the 'drywell' with water for shielding and that would also have been a form of containment with leaks or not. You would think using a cementitious slurry base with added lead, boron, sand, etc. to fill the drywell and torus is preferable (like entombment) since it will harden hold everything in place and can still be removed in pieces or bored or whatever. But there must be a good reason why they haven't done that yet…isn't there?

          Reactor vessels are always filled with water for shielding from all irradiated and now radioactive parts whether they are loaded with fuel or not. All repair work or modifications like shroud replacements are done underwater aided by scuba like divers.

          Water is very versatile. Being a hydrologist would make a great career.


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        • razzz razzz

          There is melting point then boiling point where boiling point means vaporization.

          Maybe that is why Chernobyl only burnt for 10 days. Decay heat diminished and couldn't burn the leftover any further?


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  • Isthmus

    Uni – I'm not going left on your above, but maybe it's more important to note that doing a dubie & driving you can go 100 miles per hr. and your speedometer only says 25, think of the gas your saving the planet, and you'll have more friends in Portland, Or. Last spring after spending the winter on the mountain in the snow, I was coming down the interstate 5, just approaching Portland, windows rolled up and the whole inside of my 89 Bronco that had saved vehicles off the road in the snow didn't deserve all that marijuana smoke inside the cab. as I passed through Portland . What about all the children in Portland, is that ok with you .


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  • PSSST…for those who know Kelly Ann Thomas, its her birthday today…find a way to contact her and say Hi. She does Facebook for one.


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  • From one of the ads on ENENEWS– I like it!

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  • A real poll, where real people can voice their opinion——

    https://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2017/02/a-poll-on-trumps-travel-bans.html

    How Do You Feel About Banning Travel From Certain Countries That Are Deemed High Risk?

    Let them in, that's "not who we are" 2%

    The 7 They Picked Were Good Choices 0%

    They Should ban even more countries 47%

    The ban should be broad, but allow for specific Visa requests to be considered even from those countries 29%

    Islam is 0.8% of the USA, yet controls 40% of the narrative, what is the real reason behind that? 23%

    Total votes: 101


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    • irhologram

      Stock…WHAT "ban?" This EO established a 90 day window to look into the backgrounds of people from 7 countries which don't keep track of their residents, and those 7 countries also either harbor terrorists, train terrorists, ot sponsor terrorists. The intent is to vet foreignors who may be likely to have terrorist motivations/actions.

      Please don't continue to add to the confusion by inferring these falsehoods:

      (1 FALSE: This is a "ban." No, Its a delaying process to allow time to investigate people who are annonymous and don't "show up" in any record keeping. The name for the process is "Vetting," not "Banning." Mislabeling the process invites criticism through misunderstanding.

      2) FALSE: This scrutiny is because the 7 countries have Muslim majorities. No. The vetting is NOT because of religious preference. It is necessary because those 7 countries have NO IDEA who's inside their borders and don't provide ANY documentatio for those residents, paper trails which other countries do provide, and which include records of identify that denote those with violent tendencies. Mislabeling this as an "Islam" issue invites misunderstanding as to purpose…and has allowed the oress and the liberal court to ridiculously "twist" facts


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  • https://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/05/nukepro-muses-on-what-is-important.html

    stock here:
    We are all pulled in various directions by various competing needs. There is never enough time for "everything". But take a step back and at least look at what the treadmill looks like.

    Stop particpating in things, buying things, that "don't matter". Stop watching TV and stop letting them "program you". Become a lie spotter. Eliminate assh##*s and sociopaths from your life.

    Get a game plan and run it everyday, except those days in which you unplug and take the whole day off.

    Learn how to ferment real natural foods, and even better, grow them yourself!

    and

    stretch!


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    • Isthmus

      One thing that will kill any virus, they say cancer cells, malaria, I've used it and it really does the job, and only side effect known is if you take a little to much you can get a little nauseous also semi diarreha . It's called Chlorine Dioxide, you mix 2 ingredients together, causes a chemical reaction for 3 min. chlorine gases off, and whats left is chlorine dioxide, a very powerful alkaline destroys only the bad guys, it will stop the flu in approx. 2 hrs, it will take a tooth ache away quick, too good to be true-no,get some and be ready .


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/div-classtitlecorrelation-between-infectious-disease-and-soil-radiation-in-japan-an-exploratory-study-using-national-sentinel-surveillance-datadiv/A0ABF10E2D714E2A8E387EDA2FBE99F0

    16 January 2017
    Correlation between infectious disease and soil radiation in Japan:…

    …Epidemic clusters of influenza and norovirus infections were observed in areas with relatively high radiation exposure. A positive correlation was detected between the average incidence rate and radiation dose, at r = 0·61–0·84 (P < 0·01) for influenza infections and r = 0·61–0·72 (P < 0·01) for norovirus infections. An increase in the incidence rate was found between areas with radiation exposure of 0 < dm < 0·01 and 0·15 ⩽ dm < 0·16, at 1·80 [95% confidence interval (CI) 1·47–2·12] times higher for influenza infection and 2·07 (95% CI 1·53–2·61) times higher for norovirus infection. Our results suggest a potential association between decreased immunity and irradiation because of soil radiation.

    http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201703010055.html
    Dried seaweed to blame for mass food poisoning at schools
    THE ASAHI SHIMBUN March 1, 2017
    …Shredded dried laver seaweed caused a wave of food poisoning that affected more than 1,000 children and teachers at seven elementary schools in Tachikawa on the outskirts of Tokyo from Feb. 17.
    The norovirus was detected in the "nori" that was served in school meals…


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      http://outbreaknewstoday.com/japan-reports-increase-norovirus-12178/

      Japan reports increase in norovirus

      Japanese health officials are reporting an increase in norovirus infections, in fact, it’s at the highest levels in a decade, according to the National Institute of Infectious Diseases.

      The number of patients reported by some 3,000 pediatrics departments across Japan averaged 20.89 during the week to Dec. 18, the highest for a mid-December period since 22.81 in 2006.

      Nearly half of Japan’s prefectures are at alert level. Yamagata prefecture has reported the largest patient number per institution (47.27), followed by Miyagi, Saitama and Miyazaki.

      Norovirus is a highly contagious viral illness that often goes by other names, such as viral gastroenteritis, stomach flu, and food poisoning.



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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      important post from Hillbilly on correlation of infectious disease and soil radiation


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      https://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/norovirus-outbreak-in-osaka-infects-48-claiming-2-lives

      Norovirus outbreak in Osaka infects 48, claiming 2 lives

      …The National Institute of Infectious Diseases is warning of a norovirus epidemic, as 2012 shows one of the highest infection rates on record. According to data collected from around 3,000 medial institutions, the average number of suspected norovirus patients per hospital stood at 11.39 in the week of Nov 12-18 this year. This figure represents the highest number since 2006, when 16.42 people per hospital were infected.

      https://borgenproject.org/norovirus-japan-food-poisoning-outbreak/
      26 Jan 2014

      Norovirus, Japan Food Poisoning Outbreak

      Local governments in Japan have been forced to cancel classes at 15 elementary schools due to a recent outbreak of mass food poisoning. At least 905 children have fallen ill in Japan’s Shizuoka Prefecture. In the coastal city of Hamamatsu, the children experienced vomiting and diarrhea, with roughly 41 teachers showing the same symptoms.

      Authorities who are investigating the situation believe that the sudden outbreak was caused by “norovirus, a common source of foodborne illness.”

      This virus is highly contagious and easily transmittable. According to Horihiro Ishizaka, a Hamamatsu city public relations official, “the highly contagious virus was detected in about half of the stool samples taken from the sick pupils.”



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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      http://idsc.nih.go.jp/iasr/noro-e.html
      Flash report of norovirus in Japan

      http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/japan-norovirus-sickens-over-900-schoolkids-in-hamamatsu-97047/
      Published On: Fri, Jan 17th, 2014

      Health / Outbreak News / World News | By Robert Herriman
      Japan: Norovirus sickens over 900 schoolkids in Hamamatsu
      More than 900 schoolchildren and 41 teachers in 14 schools in the Japanese city of Hamamatsu have been sickened by the gastrointestinal bug, norovirus, causing them to miss school, according to a Voices of Russia report Thursday.

      According to the report, all patients were detected as possessing a norovirus, which causes high temperature, vomiting and diarrhea within the space of a few days. 12 out of 14 schools have announced quarantine until Saturday. It is noteworthy that in each of the schools the meals were prepared separately, and matching ingredients were not found.


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      https://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/norovirus-outbreak-reported-at-tokyo-hotel
      Norovirus outbreak reported at Tokyo hotel
      →National Jan. 05, 2013 – 06:59AM JST ( 9 )
      TOKYO —
      A restaurant at the Tokyo Prince Hotel in Minato Ward has been ordered closed from Friday to Sunday by health officials after an outbreak of norovirus caused by food poisoning. …

      https://norocore.ncsu.edu/norovirus-kills-2-in-japan/
      Norovirus kills 2 in Japan
      by Katie · December 6, 2012
      A norovirus outbreak in a Japanese hospital sickened almost 50 people, and is implicated in the death of 2 elderly patients. This is a grim reminder that norovirus, while generally miserable but short-lived, can kill. The outbreak started last week in an Osaka hospital, but the source is as yet undetermined. The elderly man and woman who died are believed to have suffered organ failure following infection. This highlights the fact that children and the elderly are at extra risk from norovirus infection compared to other populations. Japan’s National Institute of Infectious Diseases is warning of a norovirus epidemic. Based on data from several thousand medical institutions in the country, the average number of suspected norovirus patients so far this year is at its highest since 2006. This seems to reflect the abundance of cases recently seen in the UK, as well.


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      http://blogs.uw.edu/apecein/2013/01/04/japan-over-100-infected-by-norovirus-in-a-nosocomial-outbreak/

      Japan: Over 100 infected by norovirus in a nosocomial outbreak

      Posted on January 4, 2013 by tfu

      More than 100 people have been infected in an outbreak of norovirus infection at a Yokohama hospital (Kanagawa Prefecture) according to the municipal authorities on 31 December 2012. A total of 112 people, including 82 patients and 30 members of staff at Yokohama Denentoshi Hospital contracted gastroenteritis caused by norovirus infection up to the morning of 31 December 2012, according to officials.

      This outbreak of disease probably caused the deaths of four seniors in the hospital on 31 December 2012, who died as a result of breathing problems in addition to the characteristic norovirus infection symptoms of vomiting and diarrhea. The officials said local government inspectors investigated the hospital on four occasions to try to establish the route of infection, and Japan’s Health Ministry has urged local government officials to deal with the source of the infection without delay.


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      And in true wallpaper style:
      https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxfaqs/tf.asp?id=576&tid=107
      Exposure to stable or radioactive cesium occurs from ingesting contaminated food or drinking water or breathing contaminated air. High levels of radioactive cesium in or near your body can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, bleeding, coma, and even death. This may occur after nuclear accidents or detonation of atomic bombs. Stable (non-radioactive) cesium has been found in at least 8 of the 1,636 National Priority List (NPL) sites identified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Radioactive cesium has been found in at least 23 of the 1,636 NPL sites identified by the EPA.

      What happens to cesium when it enters the environment?
      Cesium in air can travel long distances before settling to the ground or water.
      Most cesium compounds dissolve in water.
      In moist soils, most cesium compounds are very soluble.
      Cesium binds strongly to moist soils and does not travel far below the surface of the soil.
      Radioactive decay is a way of decreasing the amount of 134Cs and 137Cs in the environment.
      How might I be exposed to cesium?
      You can be exposed to low levels of stable or radioactive cesium by breathing air, drinking water, or eating food containing cesium.
      Food and drinking water are the largest sources of exposure to cesium.
      You can be exposed to radioactive cesium if you eat food that was grown in contaminated soil, or if you come near a soures of exposure to cesium.


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      http://tucson.com/news/national/us-hit-by-new-stomach-bug-spreading-around-globe/article_02892656-676b-11e2-9ad1-001a4bcf887a.html
      US hit by new stomach bug spreading around globe

      Associated Press
      Jan 25, 2013
      NEW YORK — A new strain of stomach bug sweeping the globe is taking over in the U.S., health officials say.

      Since September, more than 140 outbreaks in the U.S. have been caused by the new Sydney strain of norovirus. It may not be unusually dangerous; some scientists don’t think it is. But it is different, and many people might not be able to fight off its gut-wrenching effects.

      Clearly, it’s having an impact. The new strain is making people sick in Japan, Western Europe, and other parts of the world. It was first identified last year in Australia and called the Sydney strain.

      In the U.S., it is now accounting for about 60 percent of norovirus outbreaks, according to report released Thursday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      http://english.china.com/news/china/54/20170224/893991.html

      Virus caused outbreak at kindergarten

      Updated 2017-02-24 10:43:34 Shanghai Daily
      Tests have confirmed norovirus was the cause of 90 children from a kindergarten in Minhang District becoming ill on Tuesday night, the Children's Hospital of Fudan University said yesterday.

      The virus was found present in samples of vomit from the sick children and the investigation ruled out the possibility of food poisoning, hospital officials told Shanghai Daily.

      A joint investigation was launched on Tuesday by the district's disease control center and education and market supervision bureaus, after the center was told several children from the same school had started vomiting.

      The source of the virus is still under investigation. Medical experts said the outbreak may have been caused by contaminated food or water.

      The highly contagious virus has a small range for spreading by air and staff at kindergartens and schools have been trained to separate sick children to prevent infecting others.


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2017-02-03/southern-california-school-closes-due-to-contagious-illness
      Feb. 3, 2017, at 6:08 p.m.

      Southern California school closes due to contagious illness
      The Associated Press
      Children stand outside John Adams Middle School in Santa Monica, Calif., that remains closed as crews scrub surfaces in an effort to eradicate any traces of a gastrointestinal virus that has sickened some students Friday, Feb. 3, 2017. The Santa Monica-Malibu Unified School District said 190 seventh-grade students from Adams, along with some parents and teachers, were potentially exposed to the illness that may be norovirus during a five-day science trip to Yosemite National Park last week.

      …The district said it is working with the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health to contain the illness, which appeared to have spread to some John Adams students who didn't go on the trip and through siblings to other Santa Monica schools.


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://vancouversun.com/health/local-health/bc-centre-for-disease-control-issues-public-warning-about-oyster-illness

    B.C. Centre for Disease Control issues public warning about oyster illness Jan 13, 2017

    …More than 70 people in the Lower Mainland and on Vancouver Island have come down with what appears to be norovirus after eating raw or lightly cooked oysters at home or in restaurants since the beginning of December. More cases are expected to appear in the next few weeks, according to the B.C. Centre for Disease Control.

    “I’ve seen the news and we’re taking precautions,” Johnson said. “We’re going to do some research but until we know for sure, we’ve pulled all our B.C. oysters.”

    The outbreak of gastrointestinal illness is a puzzling one, according to Dr. Eleni Galanis, an epidemiologist at the BCCDC. The affected oysters seem to come from several different locations.

    “It is unusual and somewhat perplexing why there would be so many different oysters from different harvest sites involved,” she said.

    Seven patients have tested positive for norovirus so far, but how the oysters came to be contaminated with the pathogen is also a mind-boggler.

    “The most likely source leading to this kind of case … is contamination of our ocean waters, but we don’t know how. We haven’t found the smoking gun,”

    The latest outbreak only adds to an ongoing mystery that began in late November, when about 120 people contracted norovirus after eating oysters in Tofino.


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  • I got the video up on YouTube -
    http://youtu.be/DY7K9NtDtuY
    comments enabled for now ….


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  • danger kitty danger kitty

    Got a copy of the current National Gees. I bought it for the cover article on Vikings (my people). Much to my surprise it had an article on declining fisheries in the South China Sea. Scientists are worried it could break down completely very soon. These scientists are not confused, bamboozled, etc. They come right out and state the cause is…overfishing! By the mean, nasty…Chinese!
    How far from Fukushima is the South China Sea?


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    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      South China Sea maybe about 1500mi SSW from Fuku. It is pretty big, 1500x800mi, about 1/3 the size of USA.

      But…it is SE Asia's fishing hole. China, Taiwan, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam +. Overfished surely, and I doubt they all give 2 sxxts about each others stake in it.

      Maybe 1 billion eaters? More? And growing fast.


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  • danger kitty danger kitty

    Another interesting, intersecting data point:I was at a friend's house; he was looking at articles about China's military buildup in the Spratly Islands. Of course they need a small reactor to power their crap. We saw an article describing the reactor:it has no heat exchange on the coolant loop! I swear I saw that. Seawater comes in, cools the core, radio water is discharged directly to the Sea…
    Now no I don't have the time or Internet speed to track that site down…perhaps others?
    Maybe it's just a 'harmful rumor…


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    I recognized his name immediately.
    I wonder if he understands the proportions of the wall.
    The wall of cognitive dissonance and normalcy bias..
    His words repelled.
    I doubt that he is used to his words 'going in one ear and coming out the other'.
    I welcome him to the 'rabbit hole'.


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    • DUDe DUDe

      Thanks mt1000..Seems like one of the good guy's no doubt..i wonder where the estimated "40years" comes from..its been mentioned more then once by different people..


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      • Silverlok Silverlok

        "…i wonder where the estimated "40years" comes from…",

        a Practical estimate based on some type of successful mitigation at the 4 decade mark ( meaning it will take us that long to envision and then create a workable physical solution to 'cleaning' and 'containing' the corium dispersion(s)).

        At his age and level of experience/intelligence his estimations are multi-disciplinary AND practical application projections.

        Without some type of human mitigation, fukushima will be a problem for a couple of magnitudes of order longer than 40 years.


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